Fired teacher suing diocese

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Why would she have to know something was up. Not all insurance policies cover all of IVF or any of it at all. It depends on the policy.
Usually, when there is an expensive medical procedure, and insurance turns you down, you file for an exception and/or ask for a reason. Sometimes the insurance co just tries to avoid paying and you have to fight them.
 
Usually, when there is an expensive medical procedure, and insurance turns you down, you file for an exception and/or ask for a reason. Sometimes the insurance co just tries to avoid paying and you have to fight them.
They certainly could have done that but many insurance plans do not cover elective fertiltiy treatments - period. If it’s not in the coverage, fighting won’t do you any good. If you had a plan that, for example, covered one try but not multiple trys, you might be able to look for an exception.

The fact that it wasn’t covered doesn’t really give the employee a clue about Church teaching, which was the point made. Lots of companies do not cover such things.
 
You don’t know what she did, except for the very loose claim that no snowflake babies have been destroyed yet. The Church does have guidelines. You have to do more research on this to learn all the issues. For example, there’s also an issue of masturbation to obtain the sperm.
And again, she’s not Catholic.
 
And again, she’s not Catholic.
And again, she works at a Catholic school, and agreed to respect the religion. According to her, the priest said she was a sinner. So she was fired because she was a bad example to the kids and her fellow teachers. That is certainly part of religious rights of the school to employ teachers who respect their religion.
 
that’s just appalling!
the church needs it’s rights restricted, big time!
Marriage is a public act; even the state requires witnesses to the consent of the parties. If you have an employment contract that requires you to act in accord with the teaching of the Church, you have two choices:
  1. Honor the terms of the contract, or
  2. Don’t work there.
We have a First Amendment precisely to protect the Church from the interferrence of the state in the practice of religion. End of argument.
 
that’s just appalling!
the church needs it’s rights restricted, big time!
Every teacher signs a one-year contract that states they will live according to the moral teachings of the Catholic Church. If someone is married outside the Church they are not eligible to work in a Catholic school. If someone is already an employee and then publicly violates Catholic moral teaching they are in violation of their contract and subject to termination. Its pretty straightforward and they are all aware of it.
 
And again, she works at a Catholic school, and agreed to respect the religion. According to her, the priest said she was a sinner. So she was fired because she was a bad example to the kids and her fellow teachers. That is certainly part of religious rights of the school to employ teachers who respect their religion.
Then they shouldn’t have hired her in the first place. But they have and now they have to deal with the fact that she doesn’t subject herself to the rules of the Church.
 
This case hinges on whatever the teacher’s contract looks like, which is not something that appears to be known at this time. Every diocese (and sometimes every Catholic school within a diocese) is going to be a little different. More and more Catholic schools do have a morality clause built into the teacher’s contract. They’re private schools, not public schools. They can do that.

I can certainly see how something like this would happen. Not every Catholic school principal has an extensive knowledege of Catholic moral theology (would that they did! ;)). I can see how it might slip past the first time while perhaps another teacher who is more knowledgable finds out and then brings it to the school’s pastoral administrator.
 
Then they shouldn’t have hired her in the first place. But they have and now they have to deal with the fact that she doesn’t subject herself to the rules of the Church.
So you think we SHOULD discriminate on the basis of religion? Teachers do subject themselves to the rules of the Church if it is in their contract. All the teachers have that in their contracts. That is equal treatment, not discrimination.
 
Then they shouldn’t have hired her in the first place. But they have and now they have to deal with the fact that she doesn’t subject herself to the rules of the Church.
They did deal with it, they did not renew her contract.
 
Every teacher signs a one-year contract that states they will live according to the moral teachings of the Catholic Church. If someone is married outside the Church they are not eligible to work in a Catholic school. If someone is already an employee and then publicly violates Catholic moral teaching they are in violation of their contract and subject to termination. Its pretty straightforward and they are all aware of it.
Thank God in Australia the church has no such rights!
I went to a Catholic School. my best teacher was a member of the Uniting Church of the Australia, half way through the year he got married and went on 1 month leave for his honeymoon, came back, and everything proceeded normally! he took us to the school’s masses, made say Catholic Morning Prayers, the only thing he didn’t do was teach Religious Education which was fine cause we had a specific religious education teacher for that.

frankly what you American’s call ‘freedom of religion’ and ‘rights of the church’ scare the tripe out of the democratic world, myself included.
Im glad im not an American cause I would have grown to hate the church, in fact over here we would call that cult-like behavior…and it wouldn’t be tolerated!!!
 
Thank God in Australia the church has no such rights!
I went to a Catholic School. my best teacher was a member of the Uniting Church of the Australia, half way through the year he got married and went on 1 month leave for his honeymoon, came back, and everything proceeded normally! he took us to the school’s masses, made say Catholic Morning Prayers, the only thing he didn’t do was teach Religious Education which was fine cause we had a specific religious education teacher for that.

frankly what you American’s call ‘freedom of religion’ and ‘rights of the church’ scare the tripe out of the democratic world, myself included.
Im glad im not an American cause I would have grown to hate the church, in fact over here we would call that cult-like behavior…and it wouldn’t be tolerated!!!
I rather like having our government bound and gagged when it comes to religion. Sorry you’ve never gotten to experience the level of freedom that we have in America.
 
frankly what you American’s call ‘freedom of religion’ and ‘rights of the church’ scare the tripe out of the democratic world, myself included.
Im glad im not an American cause I would have grown to hate the church, in fact over here we would call that cult-like behavior…and it wouldn’t be tolerated!!!
Well, the New World was colonized by people fleeing religious persecution, and when the United States of America was formed the need to protect religious liberty was the number one thing that the founders wanted.

As Bill Murray said in “Stripes” about 25 years ago:
“We’re Americans. We’ve been kicked out of some of the best countries in the world”

Your insight on how America is viewed is interesting.
 
aussie, a private employer should be able to make contracts with their employees however they want to. if the employee doesn’t like the rules, they can go somewhere else. it has already been pointed out that the grounds for dismissal comes from the fact that she proceeded with the second round after it was clearly brought to her attention that it wasn’t allowed.

personally, I’m glad I live somewhere where half the citizens still fight for what’s right. as far as “discrimination” goes, every time you make a choice you have discriminated against every other choice. actually, you’ve just proven that “the rest of the democratic world” discriminates against religious freedom. at least only half my country have been brainwashed by the school of relative morality.
 
personally, I’m glad I live somewhere where half the citizens still fight for what’s right. as far as “discrimination” goes, every time you make a choice you have discriminated against every other choice. actually, you’ve just proven that “the rest of the democratic world” discriminates against religious freedom. at least only half my country have been brainwashed by the school of relative morality.
I think you would find the “other half” is just as adamant about religious freedom as we are if it were their beliefs under attack by the government.

The prevailing attitude in the US seems to be that restrictions on freedom are okay if it restricts the “other guy.”
 
I rather like having our government bound and gagged when it comes to religion. Sorry you’ve never gotten to experience the level of freedom that we have in America.
what u call freedom I would call a cult…the catholic church in America by the standards of Australians is nothing more than a BULLY and a DANGEROUS CULT!

in fact I would call the American political system a DANGEROUS CULT…thank god you people are on your side of the world and not on mine is all I can say :byzsoc:
 
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