First and last anniversary

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LeahInancsi said:
Last Sunday was my first anniversary in the Catholic church. I was so happy. Unfortunately, it will be the last for a while. In order to keep peace in my household and eliminate the unbearable tension, I’m going to have to leave the Church.
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That’s crazy talk. Anyway, you can’t leave. The best you can hope for is to become a really bad Catholic, but honey, you got stuck with us forever when you let them pour the water on. 😉
Catholicism has given me so much Hope when I needed it the most. I love my mother, but she has made my life miserable because she feels that I am spending too much time on church activites and is gealous of the time it takes away from her.
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What is it about the Church that’s stopping you from spending time with your mother? :confused:
I’m not strong enough to stand up against her.
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Maybe not, but the Holy Spirit within you is.

A friend of mine says that the best thing to do when you have an impossible disagreement with someone is to pray to his or her Guardian Angel. She swears that this works. I’ve never had occasion to try it, but in your case, I think this is a perfect opportunity to test this theory. Give it a try. And don’t give up on the Church. If it really does come down to the choice between God and your mother, please choose God.
 
I was just reading about Edith Stein, aka St. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross. Her mom was a devout Jew and was greatly grieved by Edith’s conversion. When Edith entered the convent, it was even harder.

Pray to St. Teresa Benedicta that she will intercede for you and your mom.

don’t give up your soul. As a Catholic you can do much more for your mom than you can do out of the Church.

God bless you.
 
Eileen_T said:
It is my job to teach them the Faith and do whatever I can to get them to Heaven. How could I do that if I loved them more than I loved God?

If I put my kids (18-30) before God I would be going against the 1st Commandment.

Luke 12:53 *The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against his father, the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother, the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. *

I have even told them if they get married outside the Church I can’t be present. God comes FIRST.
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twisted very twisted
 
johntkd said:
twisted very twisted
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Not twisted at all. Jesus says: “Mat 10:35 For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Mat 10:36 And a man’s enemies shall be they of his own household.
Mat 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me, is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me.” (Douay-Rheims Version)
 
johntkd said:
twisted very twisted
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Putting anyone before God is what is twisted. Follow the example of Abraham. If you don’t put God first, you are actually setting a bad example for your children and causing harm to their souls, so if you love your children, you have to put God above them.
 
I hope the OP returns to read this thread.

Please, you don’t need to leave the church.

Go to mass every Sunday and on Holy Days of Obligation (there are 6 of those and some coincide with the Sunday obligation).
If you are able to remain mortally sin-free participate in the Eucharist at each mass.
If you find yourself in a state of mortal sin but cannot get to confession then still attend mass but don’t take the Eucharist until you can get to confession.
Go to confession at least during Lent so that you can participate in the Eucharist at Easter.

Those are the ‘minimum’ requirements for being a practicing Catholic (along with living the love of Christ in all your interactions throughout each day, of course).

It seems you are an ‘active’ Catholic, one who volunteers around your parish community and such and perhaps that’s what your mother is jealous of, not the minimim time commitment.
 
johntkd said:
twisted very twisted
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Only if you think God doesn’t exist, or that God doesn’t love you more than any human being can. Or if you think that God is somehow required to “understand” that we have to put Him second, even though the First Commandment exhorts us to put Him first in all things and in all ways.

If we love God more than we love others, then we will be with both God and those others in Heaven for eternity, because they will see the sincerity of our example, and follow it. This is really the loving thing to do for them, even if it may be painful in the short term.

But if we put our religion aside in order to cater to our family and friends, then all of us will go to Hell - and it’s not very loving to make your family members to go to Hell, is it? 🤷
 
kangnamdragon said:
Putting anyone before God is what is twisted. Follow the example of Abraham. If you don’t put God first, you are actually setting a bad example for your children and causing harm to their souls, so if you love your children, you have to put God above them.
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sorry there is absolutly no way i can put something I cannot see,touch or talk to above my kids… Nothing at all

I dont think i am a bad example at all to my kids…
 
johntkd said:
sorry there is absolutly no way i can put something I cannot see,touch or talk to above my kids… Nothing at all

I dont think i am a bad example at all to my kids…
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I see, touch, and talk to God every time I go to Mass.
 
johntkd said:
ohhh so what does he look like then, what kinds of clothes does he wear?

what does he feel like did he pick you up and help you into bed when you were sick ??
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You need to pray for more faith.
 
johntkd said:
ohhh so what does he look like then,
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He looks like you, actually.
He is in every human person.
At mass he is the person beside, behind and in front of me.
what kinds of clothes does he wear?
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Anywhere from nothing at all to attire fit for a king.
]what does he feel like
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At mass he feels like a wafer and tastes like wine.
At adoration his ‘feel’ is all encompassing and comforting.
did he pick you up and help you into bed when you were sick ??
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Oh, yes, many, many times. He is my mother, my father, my nurse, my doctor, my friend, the stranger who helps me up when I trip over my own feet, the neighbor or school administrator who would tend to my scraped knees as a youth.

He is YOU when you do anything - even the littlest thing - for your own children. Do you know know that? Everything you do, think, say, feel comes from Him and flows through you to others. He feels like you.
 
johntkd said:
Maybe but I dont even want to have that kind of faith, cause if it were possible i would without thought give my soul to satan to save one of my kids or the woman i love
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You would be unable to do anything GOOD for them if your soul belonged to satan. True love comes only from one source.
 
johtkd said:
ohhh so what does he look like then,
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He looks like you, actually.
He is in every human person.
At mass he is the person beside, behind and in front of me.
what kinds of clothes does he wear?
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Anywhere from nothing at all to attire fit for a king.
what does he feel like
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At mass he feels like a wafer and tastes like wine.
At adoration his ‘feel’ is all encompassing and comforting.
did he pick you up and help you into bed when you were sick ??
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Oh, yes, many, many times. He is my mother, my father, my nurse, my doctor, my friend, the stranger who helps me up when I trip over my own feet, the neighbor or school administrator who would tend to my scraped knees as a youth.

He is YOU when you do anything - even the littlest thing - for your own children. Do you know know that? Everything you do, think, say, feel comes from Him and flows through you to others. He feels like you.

I do not believe the OP is giving up her faith as much as she is saying she is giving up physically practicing it - for the time being. Part of that stems from the “honor thy mother and father” commandment, another part stems from just not being strong enough to deal with the division her practicing her faith causes in her life. We must all pray that the Holy Spirit shower his gifts upon her that she may find the will to do what is right, and that, of course, will enable her to at least attend mass weekly.
 
NOT in response to the OP but in response to the person who claims to love children and wife more than God … I advise…

To love a person more than you love God is to violate the commandment against having any gods before Him.

I would not want any person to love me more than they love God.
 
YinYangMom said:
He looks like you, actually.
He is in every human person.
At mass he is the person beside, behind and in front of me.

Anywhere from nothing at all to attire fit for a king.

At mass he feels like a wafer and tastes like wine.
At adoration his ‘feel’ is all encompassing and comforting.

Oh, yes, many, many times. He is my mother, my father, my nurse, my doctor, my friend, the stranger who helps me up when I trip over my own feet, the neighbor or school administrator who would tend to my scraped knees as a youth.

He is YOU when you do anything - even the littlest thing - for your own children. Do you know know that? Everything you do, think, say, feel comes from Him and flows through you to others. He feels like you.

I do not believe the OP is giving up her faith as much as she is saying she is giving up physically practicing it - for the time being. Part of that stems from the “honor thy mother and father” commandment, another part stems from just not being strong enough to deal with the division her practicing her faith causes in her life. We must all pray that the Holy Spirit shower his gifts upon her that she may find the will to do what is right, and that, of course, will enable her to at least attend mass weekly.
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I was told to follow the way of abraham which is i,possible for me to do esspecially after your post I would be trying to Kill God himself…
 
johntkd said:
I was told to follow the way of abraham which is i,possible for me to do esspecially after your post I would be trying to Kill God himself…
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How would you be trying to kill God himself by anything in my post?
 
YinYangMom said:
How would you be trying to kill God himself by anything in my post?
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nothing from your post at all it was reference to another post,
Abraham is suposed to sacrifice his own child to “please” God, so if i follwed that principle and thought i was asked to kill my own child as your posts says I would be trying to kill God himself…

your post made total sense and is more or less the way i feel about it as well
 
kage_ar said:
To love a person more than you love God is to violate the commandment against having any gods before Him.

I would not want any person to love me more than they love God.
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The OP never said anything about no longer loving God.
he/she is only acknowledging she is weak in her ability to withstand the pressure her mother is putting on her.

She is merely struggling with what all humans face - living in this world and being of this world, while trying to focus on the real world of Heaven.

She is a new convert. She needs our support and our prayers, not our admonitions for being not finding the strength which only the Holy Spirit can provide.
 
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