First case of Ebola in the US

[Path_Finder]

Or how do you know they don’t become mildly symptomatic after boarding? Mildly symptomatic in the early stage means your spreading a deadly virus and no one knows they have it, or how they got it, and we don’t where its going from there?

Then add the honor system to the equation.

Not hard to see how the exponential growth occurs, and we have been doing “alright” but it certainly can get out of hand quick too.

I’ve heard stories they are going to make efforts to be monitoring people’s fevers, this is for the schools but I think I heard it in regards to planes as well.

educationblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/company-to-donate-fever-screening-monitors-to-dallas-isd-schools-impacted-by-ebola-virus.html/

Nothing to panic about but it is very clearly this is a serious matter, imho, much more serious than HIV ever was.

 

[gilliam]

I’ve heard stories they are going to make efforts to be monitoring people’s fevers, this is for the schools but I think I heard it in regards to planes as well.

educationblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/company-to-donate-fever-screening-monitors-to-dallas-isd-schools-impacted-by-ebola-virus.html/

Nothing to panic about but it is very clearly this is a serious matter, imho, much more serious than HIV ever was.

If we eliminate people with fevers from flying, maybe we will have a less severe flu season

 

[Beautiful]

If we eliminate people with fevers from flying, maybe we will have a less severe flu season

I am wondering.

What if a menopausal woman is having a hot flash exactly at the point of the test?

 

[jen_fla]

Duncan might have died. I say might because this website reported the story hours ago and no one in the mainstream news has picked it up which leads me to think it might be a mistake. I can’t find it on Reuters either.

First US Ebola Patient Dies

israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/305795#.VDIF7kpX-uY

 

[jen_fla]

Newark passenger had been cleared,at least that’s the last report I’ve seen.

Remember, you can be sure to trust the information you get on tv and the internet, too. Much more credible than the drivel one would get from a scholar or an academician.

Marburgh has reared its ugly head in Uganda.

forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2014/10/05/ugandan-health-worker-dies-of-marburg-ebola-relative/

While the majority of cases are Ebola Zaire, it appears Africa has had 3 filovirus outbreaks this year. I would like to know if they are testing for each virus when they ‘clear’ these potential carriers.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Marburgh has reared its ugly head in Uganda.

forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2014/10/05/ugandan-health-worker-dies-of-marburg-ebola-relative/

While the majority of cases are Ebola Zaire, it appears Africa has had 3 filovirus outbreaks this year. I would like to know if they are testing for each virus when they ‘clear’ these potential carriers.

Interesting article I would be assuming to answer the question but I would think so. Whats interesting is Tekmira rushed an experimental drug to Dallas then nothing else was stated since late last week. Is the Dallas patient stabilizing?

Sarepta Therapeutics of Cambridge, Massachusetts, has been developing an RNA-interfering drug against Marburg virus as part of a collaboration with the U.S. Department of Defense. The drug, called AVI-7288, is targeted against the nucelocapsid protein of Marburg virus. In March, the company reported infection protection rates of up to 83% to 100% in non-human primates when given at up to four days post-infection. As a result, Sarepta initiated a multiple, ascending dose Phase I safety trial in humans in May.

Tekmira Pharmaceuticals of Burnaby, British Columbia, has a lipid nanoparticle, RNA interfering drug that also protects non-human primates from Marburg infection. This work, done with Thomas Geisbert at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston, appeared in Science Translational Medicine in August. There, the drug is called NP-718m-LNP, but Tekmira’s website currently calls it TKM-Marburg.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Thomas Duncan is getting worse, the CDC director is optimistically vague, Duncan was downgraded to critical and went from speaking on the phone late last week to being unable to speak. The 48 identified are being monitored and are 1-week into the three week process.

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Thomas Eric Duncan, who is in critical condition, remains the only person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. Officials are closely monitoring people with whom Duncan has come into contact for signs of the infection, he said.

Authorities on Sunday also said they found a homeless man they described as a “low risk” individual who had gone missing and may have come into contact with Duncan. The man was taken a Dallas hospital for evaluation.

Director generalized and minimized the condition and this statement below isn’t reassuring with “would not spread broadly”.

is “fighting for his life,” and he expressed confidence that the infection would not spread broadly to others

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(Reuters) - The first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States was fighting for his life at a Dallas hospital on Sunday and appeared to be receiving none of the experimental medicines for the virus, a top U.S. health official said.

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A second Ebola patient to be treated at Nebraska Medical Center in … plane Sunday and was headed to Nebraska, the network reported. …

Screening could soon be increased at U.S. airports because of the Ebola outbreak, officials said Sunday.

 

[Beautiful]

The Nebraska hospital that treated an American aid worker infected with Ebola has fired two workers accused of violating the man’s privacy by looking at his medical file.

abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/omaha-hospital-workers-fired-ebola-privacy-25789150

There is much to be discussed about HIPPA Privacy Rules in situations like this.
hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/summary/

…thinking that it won’t be long before HIPPA cloaks each suspected incident of ebola or the media gets tired or distracted and does not report.

 

[Beautiful]

After further thought

The media will continue to dib with suspected cases, particularly the kind where fully protected CDC workers rush to an airport tarmac.

All other cases will probably be cloaked in privacy.

In the near future, the few stories we do read about will tossed about like a piece of meat in a pool of piranhas….devoured until there is nothing left.

Even a small cluster or outbreak will do the same.

Only a large uncontrollable outbreak will demand and receive real impact and changes for the whole population.

At any rate, privacy laws will offset immediate mass hysteria and in the long run, actually serve to advance the scourges of this deadly virus.

Did privacy laws offset the advance of AIDS?

Frighteningly enough, my primary care physician humbly thanked me when I consented to an AIDS test during a routine physical. I consented on the premise that I wanted him as well as his staff to feel more at ease when treating me. The question was asked casually. My response was quick…treating my brother as I would want to be treated. I actually felt uneasy when I realized that my consent was even necessary.:twocents:

These are the times and situations we live in and this is what I think we can expect to evolve as time goes on.

 

[chero23]

Things will be get bad in Dallas. The guy who was in the ambulance after the Ebola man was a homeless man. It took 7 days to find him. Homeless people are prone to sickness.

I think things will get worse before they get better.

 

[Path_Finder]

Possibly first case in Europe, ebola strikes nurse in Madrid, Spain.

bbc.com/news/world-europe-29514920#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa

 

[jen_fla]

Thomas Duncan is getting worse, the CDC director is optimistically vague, Duncan was downgraded to critical and went from speaking on the phone late last week to being unable to speak. The 48 identified are being monitored and are 1-week into the three week process.

google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fto-your-health%2Fwp%2F2014%2F10%2F05%2Fdallas-ebola-patient-fighting-for-his-life-cdc-head-says%2F&ei=p04yVNrKDMilyASF5oLICA&usg=AFQjCNEuOns6qHRWooqCXXWq45gl0SwJbQ&sig2=iKmw58zAy_GmeRL7iBFOhw&bvm=bv.76802529,d.aWw

Director generalized and minimized the condition and this statement below isn’t reassuring with “would not spread broadly”.

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Well I’m glad the article regarding his death was false, but it doesn’t look very good for the poor guy.

As to crossing the oceans:

Scientists estimate there’s a 75 percent chance the Ebola virus could spread to France and a 50 percent chance it could reach UK by the end of October. The latest research analyzes the pattern of infection and airline traffic.

Taken from here

…but this site has the charts that show what could happen if we don’t reduce flights by 80%. Note the predictions are for Oct 24th.

mobs-lab.org/ebola.html

We also just quarantined a teenager in Miami. He left W Africa and decided to take a vacation and then came down with flu like symptoms. Thank God he tested negative, but why are we allowing people from W Africa to come over and take vacations? They don’t have insurance, so who is paying for the associated costs? This is ridiculous and no one seems to have the guts to make some tough love decisions.

miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article2522088.html

 

[7_Sorrows]

Someone in our state just arrived from Liberia and said he will put himself into a 21 day quarantine, but how do we know for sure he will do that?

When it is beautiful fall weather it is hard to want to be confined.

 

[GaryTaylor]

We also just quarantined a teenager in Miami. He left W Africa and decided to take a vacation and then came down with flu like symptoms. Thank God he tested negative, but why are we allowing people from W Africa to come over and take vacations? They don’t have insurance, so who is paying for the associated costs? This is ridiculous and no one seems to have the guts to make some tough love decisions.

They are dying to get here, literally. I guess Hazmat suits will be the new fad.

 

[jen_fla]

Possibly first case in Europe, ebola strikes nurse in Madrid, Spain.

bbc.com/news/world-europe-29514920#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa

Really heartbreaking.

The Priest she caught it from was flown into Spain in a plastic isolation chamber and the folks who assisted him were all in biohazard gear. I highly doubt this nurse was allowed to tend to him without the proper protocols. The CDC is not really helping the public by denying it is airborne. I do believe they are lying by omission. They know exactly how the average joe understands the word, “airborne.” This is becoming a game of semantics. We have evidence that particles can infect via the air and I don’t care that technically it’s called aerosolized, it still means the same thing to the person who becomes infected.

We believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks.1

cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-workers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola

 

[7_Sorrows]

Really heartbreaking.

The Priest she caught it from was flown into Spain in a plastic isolation chamber and the folks who assisted him were all in biohazard gear. I highly doubt this nurse was allowed to tend to him without the proper protocols. The CDC is not really helping the public by denying it is airborne. I do believe they are lying by omission. They know exactly how the average joe understands the word, “airborne.” This is becoming a game of semantics. We have evidence that particles can infect via the air and I don’t care that technically it’s called aerosolized, it still means the same thing to the person who becomes infected.

We believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks.1

cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-workers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola

That was quite some time ago the priest died too.
She is just now being diagnosed with ebola?

 

[jen_fla]

That was quite some time ago the priest died too.
She is just now being diagnosed with ebola?

I believe he was flown in on Sept 22 and died on the 25th. Assuming she made contact with him on the 22nd we are looking at about 15 days which fits in the incubation window. There is also a possibility that she became infected after he died.

 

[7_Sorrows]

I believe he was flown in on Sept 22 and died on the 25th. Assuming she made contact with him on the 22nd we are looking at about 15 days which fits in the incubation window. There is also a possibility that she became infected after he died.

Maybe this is a different priest. I thought the Madrid priest had died in august.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Maybe this is a different priest. I thought the Madrid priest had died in august.

Manuel Garcia Viejo, 69, died in the hospital Carlos III de Madrid on 25 September after catching Ebola in Sierra Leone.

Miguel Pajares, 75, died in August after contracting the virus in Liberia.

google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CFAQFjAK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworld-europe-29514920&ei=Pw4zVI3wBoOGyQSBxIHYCg&usg=AFQjCNH9lxjcisv_N_TuI_2djeDqyDCT7w&sig2=JDTTGddg8SMvcN53L44tdQ

They claim now the drug Zmapp didn’t work above and probably not in the US either. Also the above article mentions Duncan and the drug used with him.

He has been given Brincidofovir, a new experimental drug for treating Ebola which was developed in North Carolina.

 

[7_Sorrows]

google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CFAQFjAK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworld-europe-29514920&ei=Pw4zVI3wBoOGyQSBxIHYCg&usg=AFQjCNH9lxjcisv_N_TuI_2djeDqyDCT7w&sig2=JDTTGddg8SMvcN53L44tdQ

They claim now the drug Zmapp didn’t work above and probably not in the US either. Also the above article mentions Duncan and the drug used with him.

Thanks. I didn’t realize there were 2 priests that had ebola.