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Thank you. I told my wife this long ago. The Orthodox have long ruled the previous/replaced forum. I for one am insulted by references to the body of Christ in the host as a wafer.
 
wynd said:
The statement of purpose says that this forum is for Latin Catholics to learn about Eastern Catholicism and any posts by non-Catholics must be in compliance with that purpose. No matter how true I think Orthodoxy is, posting pro-Orthodox materials seems to be against the stated purpose of the forum. I can’t see it going over well with the management. 🤷
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I think thats because there is clear difference between evangelism, proselytization, polemics and inflamitory sarcasm.

One can always focus on whats in their heart.

We still share much in common, more than enough to talk about in a peaceful manner.

Peace.
 
Joab_Anias said:
I think thats because there is clear difference between evangelism, proselytization, polemics and inflamitory sarcasm.

One can always focus on whats in their heart.

We still share much in common, more than enough to talk about in a peaceful manner.

Peace.
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Again I will ask, how can any answer by us not be construed as proselytizing or evangelism? Please show me how this is accomplished.
 
Orthodoc said:
All those of you who are insulted by the term Roman Catholic when we Orthodox Catholics use it want to set this guy straight?

Orthodoc
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ya know what man, I was using that distinction for your sake. I call myself Catholic, plain and simple.

I distinguished with ‘Roman Catholic’ because I know you believe are the true Catholics as well. I was just trying to show a little respect. Trying to pit my fellow ‘Roman’ Catholics against me is not reciprocating that respect.
 
Joab_Anias said:
Compassion, respect and humility.

Peace.
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So, how do we answer questions like: What is you belief in lets say, the Great Schism? Would you only allow your side and not ours? And if so how could one effectively answer this question? Or, do we answer in a way that you would not disagree. And how would that lend to the growth of knowledge?
 
The hospitality (khljeb i sol’) of this Site was much appreciated.
Was chance to learn about Catolics. Now - proschitje, moi druzja!

Fathers Ambrose! Spasibo!
Ghosty i inshi katoliki - thank you.

Volodymyr Romanovich Nermaniv
Kharkiv, Ukraina
 
Don’t you love her. She’s my favorite apologist next to Fr. Vincent Serpa.

For those of you too lazy [typically me] or inclined not to click on the reference:
Technically speaking, proselytism and evangelism are synonyms for the act of advocating for one’s own cause and seeking to bring others to belief in that cause. In recent decades though, and in religious parlance, some have used the term proselytism to refer to “hard sell” techniques for gaining converts that often are disrespectful of the conscience, human dignity, and personal convictions of the person who is being proselytized, while evangelism is used is refer to respectful means of witnessing to one’s own faith while respecting those who are being evangelized.
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If the more recent distinction between the two terms is recognized, then Catholics are called to evangelism and not to proselytism.
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StMarkEofE said:
So, how do we answer questions like: What is you belief in lets say, the Great Schism? Would you only allow your side and not ours? And if so how could one effectively answer this question? Or, do we answer in a way that you would not disagree. And how would that lend to the growth of knowledge?
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Maybe the Great Schism should be a thread in the Apologetics forums.
 
Joab_Anias said:
Michelle Arnold puts it very well here:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=2921049&postcount=2
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This still hasnt shown me how this can be accomplished without 1. me leaving this site once and for all (Im sure most would be gladdened by this move) or 2. I tow the line and become a puppet and go along to get along. God I dont think I could ever live with myself taking the latter course. As to the former, my only guess is that it is what most if not all would want me to do.
 
This first thread will probably be shut down but, I have to agree with this…
vocatio said:
Thank you. I told my wife this long ago. The Orthodox have long ruled the previous/replaced forum. I for one am insulted by references to the body of Christ in the host as a wafer.
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Next it will be asked of Catholic Answers to please take down the tracts on Orthodoxy. Guys, I don’t want to act like a brother who says ‘This is mine not yours!’, but this is indeed a Roman Catholic site! I LOVE the fact that you guys are here and share with us your beliefs, but it is here to help Roman Catholics understand theirs and others faiths, and also non-Roman Catholics to learn about Roman Catholics.

(let me append this by saying, any use of ‘Roman Catholic’ should not be used to pit my fellow ‘Roman Catholics’ against me, it is used for mere consideration for Orthodox Catholics beliefs.)

(let me append my appendix by saying, I think the Orthodox Catholics on this site should not only stay here and be just as active, but join in on some of the discussions with the protestants and other faiths. You are our closest brothers!)
 
Charlie_Zeaiter said:
Maybe the Great Schism should be a thread in the Apologetics forums.
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That maybe but the Eastern Christian forum had the advantage of concentrating Eastern Thought and Theology in one forum where you wouldnt have to go searching here or there on different forums to get a collective idea of it. It was all in one place. And easier to deal with. Now, that is all gone. It will be scattered and to some that is the point.
 
StMarkEofE said:
So, how do we answer questions like: What is you belief in lets say, the Great Schism? Would you only allow your side and not ours? And if so how could one effectively answer this question? Or, do we answer in a way that you would not disagree. And how would that lend to the growth of knowledge?
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Sure I would give you my side and hear yours humbly and honestly. Yet I would not give you mine in a prideful attempt to convert you or prove you wrong. I would leave any epiphany gained up to the working of the Holy Spirit. I think what has been seen to much of are people taking offense at the lack of charity and resepct which is in proselytization and not ecumenical evangelization. This tact only leads us further appart, not closer.

Let me put it another way, when I reply I do my best to not disrespect eastern praxis or the person who believes in it even though I do not. Nor do I expect him to decide in favor of what I say just because I say it. I am willing to listen if I am afforded the same. Then there is no axe to grind. Many times have I arrived at understanding Orthodox praxis as a different expression of the same Faith in this manner of dialogue. Seldom have I seen any understanding come from decent into heated polemics. Have you?

Peace.

Peace.
 
Follow the links on my Church of Christ to Catholic forum link in my signature. The forum seems to work well in this case. I have wondered why the Orthodox seem to have license to exploit a catholic in union with the Pope. I prefer to use the term Latin Catholic over Roman Catholic. Even though many use it interchangeably. I understand that the Eastern Orthodox [catholic] Church members want to have their say, but to run off the mouth with the proselytizing mentality that I’ve encounter with such disrespect on topics like the Sacred Hart of Jesus and the moderators seem to allow it. This is a forum for all catholics, but particularly for what we call Eastern and Western Catholics [aka Byzantine and Latin/Roman Catholics] as opposed to a platform for the many Protestants and Catholics that converted to the Orthodox Church who seem to think it is okay to rudely state their causes without check. There are ways of saying or disputing things without resorting to absolute rudeness. All arguements should be pushed to apologetics.

Maybe this should be called the Eastern Catholic Teachings…or something that conveysd with a footnote **No Arguements Here…arguments should be under apologetics. Just an idea.
 
kam1953f said:
It’s an issue for me, since my family is mostly RC with quite a sizeable contingent of Orthodox. (Jews, too, but that’s a topic for another column.)
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Wow! You sound like me. Catholic, Orthodox, Jewish family. 👍
 
Greetings,

This did come as a surprise.

I see the need, but I would say I will ONLY feel comfortable once the Moderators can assure that this will not be a “stomping ground” for curious Latins who decide to denounce our traditions or tell us Eastern and Oriental Catholics what to believe. Though there were particular Orthodox posters who caused a lot of strife, it was the few zealous Latin brothers that inevitably tore me away from being on CAF. More often than not, some Orthodox actually defended Eastern and Oriental Catholics from these bitter attacks.

It’s harder to take a blow from your brother than your cousin. That being said, if this forum is dedicated to educating Latins, then they better be up to the task and not presume that they are the answer to 2,000 years of belief and practice.

Peace and God Bless!
 
StMarkEofE said:
This still hasnt shown me how this can be accomplished without 1. me leaving this site once and for all (Im sure most would be gladdened by this move) or 2. I tow the line and become a puppet and go along to get along. God I dont think I could ever live with myself taking the latter course. As to the former, my only guess is that it is what most if not all would want me to do.
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Don’t leave hastily because there is a change. Give it a chance and see what happens.

I don’t think anyone wants to see anyone leave. Just the negative things.

I think your are more than capable of presenting your concerns in a charitable way.

Peace.
 
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