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And now one of your well know friends calling the Pope the Anti-Christ. I really have issues now with how charitable Orthodoxy can be. It most certainly does not seem to be serving the Orthodox well to argue with such hostility. Is this normal or is it just online Orthodox?
Obadiah is going through a bad patch right now and needs the support of prayer. You will remember that about 10 days ago he announced that he had left the Orthodox Church (and his criticisms were pretty tough.)

I shan’t say any more since this is not the time nor place. But I want to say to Obadiah that 1) you should tone down the tone and 2) I am praying for you.
 
I am RC myself, but please forgive me if I differ with you. The original “choice” of the two halves of the Church to split was mutual, and it remains split by choice. Intercommunion is impossible for both sides as long as we are split as we are, differing as we do on such theological issues as filioque; we cannot be united sacramentally when we are disunited on issues as basic as the nature of the Trinity.

In addition, by referring to the Orthodox Church as “the Orthodox institution,” you are - in my mind - invoking the rhetorical method of Jack Chick, belittling an Apostolic and God-founded church as if it were nothing more founded in God’s law than a Fortune 500 company.
I do not mind being differed with at all. Nothing to forgive there.

My statement comes from the Orthodox excluding us from communion in their Churches.

I see no need to take offense at the term institution and compare me with Jack Chick. All organized religion can be said to be an institution. Ours included. Where is the offense in that?

Just because Chick uses the term with a negative conotation doesn’t mean I am. I think you have misunderstood me. If anything I should take offense at being likened to an anti-Catholic like Chick. That is blatant and for that I forgive.

Peace.
 
Oh, my goodness. Such animosity. Such vitriol. Jesus is probably very unhappy.

“That they all would be one” seems a prayer of the Savior to which the Creator said “NO.” Sometimes when he says “No” it is because he wants to teach a different lesson that has nothing to do with Church unity.

I would ask the Forum Moderators to allow a great degree of latitude in regarding the acceptability of comments. I grew up RC in an area of immigrants of all Eastern European lineage, and so I have come in contact with the “Greek Catholic” and Orthodox churches frequently.

Moderators, sweeping away the dissonant chords does not stop disagreement. It only makes dialogue impossible.

So if I have a question, (such as "Do the Orthodox recognize matrimony even if there are no crowns or tri-circumnavigating the altar involved?) may I ask it here?

I’m sorry, but I’d never look to a forum peopled by Non-Catholics for this question. I’d sooner let it go, and I’d probably decide that when my kids were ready to marry, I’d deal with it then.
 
So if I have a question, (such as "Do the Orthodox recognize matrimony even if there are no crowns or tri-circumnavigating the altar involved?) may I ask it here?

I’m sorry, but I’d never look to a forum peopled by Non-Catholics for this question. I’d sooner let it go, and I’d probably decide that when my kids were ready to marry, I’d deal with it then.
Try going over to the Non-Catholic forum and write “EOOO: Why Do Orthodox Do Such and Such a Thing”. The EOOO part will help the Orthodox members of the forums find your post and respond to it, and make it easier for everyone to search for them later.
 
This puts us in a bind since at the Liturgy and at morning prayers we proclaim that we are members of the “One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.”
Several mainline protestant churches say these same words in the Nicene Creed in their congregations too.
 
As an Orthodox, agreeing to be labeled ‘Non-Catholic’ for me would be 1) sinning towards my Church and 2) lying about my beliefs. I definitely wouldn’t feel comfortable starting a thread concerning Orthodoxy in the NC forum. I’m sure that, if, as I guess, many other Orthodox feel this way, this change will result in significantly less EO/RC dialog here on CAF. Was that the purpose behind the change?
 
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With all due respect we are catholic and have been so since the time of the Apostles. You are correct, in that **we are not members of the Roman Catholic church but we are members of the Eastern Orthodox Catholic church. No blurring - just making the distinction here. **

*Thank you *
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FINALLY!!! Thank you Therese for the clarification. The blurring was causing confusion and dialogue problems.
 
Man, I got really confused when I was searching for my posts. Anywho, I look forward to seeing if this indeed solves any fighting issues.

I think as this is Catholic Answers Forum they are not trying to undermine you as Catholics, it’s just a ‘Roman’ Catholic Site.
You’re making a distinction that is incorrect
 
I for one am glad in the change of direction and salute the moderators for having the courage to return to the old format. Salute & Cheers!

This is, after all, a Catholic forum and the direction should be to help educate Catholics and non-Catholics alike who are interested in our Faith. I am glad our Orthodox Christian brethren have participated in the old forum, but most of the threads did end up going down the same path, you could almost predict who would say what to whom. It was getting old.

God bless!
 
With all due respect, the whole thing seems sort of cowardly to me. Eastern Catholics are supposed to be “Orthodox in communion with Rome” but apparently the posts of Orthodox Christians NOT in communion with Rome are so scary as to necessitate a virtual ban. Recently the most trouble was being caused by Latin Catholics who came into the forum on horseback wielding swords. So it goes, right?

This forum is essentially now dead.
There is no ban as I can see. I think the idea is to clarify who is who, and make sure each is in the proper forum.
 
Apparently according to the purpose statement, Eastern Catholics are allowed a forum solely to educate Roman Catholics on the exotic qualities of their Catholic Faith. How much more recognition of their second-class citizenship in the Catholic Church is necessary?
this kind of slur is uncalled fo. I’m sure this is what gave the moderators the motivation to make needed changes
 
As an Orthodox, agreeing to be labeled ‘Non-Catholic’ for me would be 1) sinning towards my Church and 2) lying about my beliefs. I definitely wouldn’t feel comfortable starting a thread concerning Orthodoxy in the NC forum.
Enough Orthodox were around and posting in Non-Catholic Religions to move to a dedicated Eastern Christianity forum. The best thing I see to do is to keep posting and keep the charity up.
 
Obadiah is going through a bad patch right now and needs the support of prayer. You will remember that about 10 days ago he announced that he had left the Orthodox Church (and his criticisms were pretty tough.)

I shan’t say any more since this is not the time nor place. But I want to say to Obadiah that 1) you should tone down the tone and 2) I am praying for you.
I only had a moderate number of conversations with him. I sensed he’s been angry and disenchanted for awhile.
 
Praise God for this new forum. I was getting so tired of seeing the Catholic faith trashed and the offending parties getting away with it.
 
Excuse me BUT

I was sick and tired of RCs coming in and telling us that we ECs were not doing things properly - we didn’t say the Rosary in public - WRONG they said ,

We didn’t have Eucharistic Adoration - there’s nothing better they said. That’s wrong too .

It’s no wonder that things went from bad to worse - we Eastern folk were getting battered by RCs

I understand how our Orthodox Brethren feel about this .
 
Excuse me BUT

I was sick and tired of RCs coming in and telling us that we ECs were not doing things properly - we didn’t say the Rosary in public - WRONG they said , We didn’t have Eucharistic Adoration - there’s nothing better they said that’s wrong too .
I don’t recall any Latin Catholic reprimanding any Eastern Catholic for not praying the Rosary or not having Eucharistic Adoration.
 
I don’t recall any Latin Catholic reprimanding any Eastern Catholic for not praying the Rosary or not having Eucharistic Adoration.
I do. Hopefully this new board will allow them to better understand the universality of the Catholic faith!
 
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