That’s one of the few areas I’m in agreement with the left. The government absolutely has an obligation to provide for those who can’t provide for themselves. And it should do so through programs paid for with tax revenue.
No, it doesn’t, unless it can be done without tax dollars. It is up to the church and charities to care for the least of His children.
Very few tax dollars going around these days. Much of our money is printed or borrowed. There is a moral hazard to counterfeiting.
Oh, the irony. Those who say provide a say for a definition, and those who say providing definitions is random.
I agree. Can we agree that government gets its just powers by consent of the governed?
Maybe, but if we agree on the above, the mechanism is in place for the most roller to make changes.
They’ll be tax dollars someday, taken from future generations, but I agree.
goodbye, thread. I thought you had a subject but you were hijacked.ProVobis:
They’ll be tax dollars someday, taken from future generations, but I agree.
Here’s the thread: Antifa is a violent, anti-freedom Marxist movement that regularly employs fascistic tactics. Accusations that they are a terrorist movement may be understating the point. They are more likely a revolutionary group.
You do need a definition however when trying to compare politics in the present with the politics of the past. So far the only definition we seem to have is that “fascism” consists of things that Regular_Atheist personally dislikes.
So why are you so obsessed with whether or not some random internet commentator believes in things you personally dislike?
Fascinating, because the only one bringing Germany and Italy into the conversation is you. So you are debating imaginary people over poorly defined concepts based on your subjective dislike.
If you asked the average man on the street today who Franco was, I doubt he could give you the correct answer, hardly a central figure in terms of historical impact. So I apparently invoked the magic symbol of the things you personally dislike. Do we need the magic gesture too or is the symbol alone good enough?
There is no doublespeak, just someone who looked at the theoretical arguments, looked at the rhetoric, looked at the real world results, and found the entire mess unconvincing.
Government is inevitable, it might as well enforce policies that I agree with.
No it is appropriate because it is good for society.
So the Constitution ranks higher than God’s will. Fascinating to say the least.
I’m amazed that this is what you took from what I wrote. I even identified fascism with corporatism, one that draws capital and labour together and attempts to crush class conflict through both assimilation and destruction of working class institutions. I said that the allied nations adopted the corporatist model themselves, and said that I do not think fascism can exist as a modern movement. Despite this apparently I just think that fascism is things I “personally dislike.” I did not identify fascism with racism or “hate” as the democratic powers taught people to. I agree that the term fascism abused and misunderstood, but that barely matters when a person straight up says that they like figures affiliated with fascism.
Because we’re both posting on the same forum, and because everything you say has to be read with the necessary context. I’m done talking about it though. I find you dishonest, and honestly I think you’ve revealed more about your personal opinions than you intended to and are trying to find ways to cover for yourself.
Sorry you’re not convinced.
No one argues that government is necessary. The issue is the balance between individual rights and government power.
And why has government been given that power? Because it’s good for society. But government has been given such power by the owners of the power.
The enemy of one’s enemy is not always one’s friend.
YES
The friendship dissolves after the elections.
If I thought for a moment that Antifa was any better than fascists, I would, too.