Florida Legislature and Pornography

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Pornography is causing harm. Ergo, legislation is nessecary.
 
Yep. But that isn’t as accessible for most people. And even that can be policed.
 
Maximilian75 said:
Yes, but access to that requires absurd effort. The average 12 year old (average age of first male viewing of porn) has no idea what Tor or Silk Road, or Onion encryption is- All nesecary for dark web travel.
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It’s not that difficult. You just have to download the Tor browser bundle, which will connect you automatically with the Tor network and allow you to access a directory of hidden services. It’s certainly much more simple than a lot of other internet features we use.
 
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Maximilian75 said:
Pornography is causing harm. Ergo, legislation is nessecary.
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The harm principle means that people aren’t allowed to harm other people or use coercive force against them without their consent. It allows people the freedom to make their own choices as long as it doesn’t harm others
 
Valid.

How ever, if we go by the ‘legislation will do nothing because laws will always be broken’, then the Florida legislature has wasted their time in that 8 hour gun regulation debate…
 
Maximilian75 said:
Valid.

How ever, if we go by the ‘legislation will do nothing because laws will always be broken’, then the Florida legislature has wasted their time in that 8 hour gun regulation debate…
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Like Saxum said, you have to take the harm principle into account. Watching freely provided videos of adults engaging in consensual relations isn’t in the same ballpark as mowing down children in their own school.
 
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Arguable.

You cannot automatically say that a life cut short is more harmful (either eternally or merely temporally) than a life destroyed by addiction. Both are terrible in different ways.

You also have to look at the scope of the problem. While gun violence is certainly a problem, and harms many people each day, it does not affect anywhere near the number of people harmed by pornography.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
Watching freely provided videos of adults engaging in consensual relations isn’t in the same ballpark as mowing down children in their own school.
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Exactly. Legislation should protect people from violence and correct injustices. Legislation should not enforce morality. Enforcement of morality is dangerous. If we go down that route, what’s to stop a majority of Muslims voting to ban pork in Michigan? The government should protect people and their property from harm and nothing more.

Even God doesn’t force people to follow his laws. He gives everybody the choice to accept salvation or reject it. People should choose the good because they want/desire/love the good.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
If you have internet access, it’s accessible.
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If you are technologically competent. If you’ve ever had to help relatives with their computers you know plenty of people aren’t. Not to mention it is much harder to find stuff.

I didn’t say it would go away. But it would be a lot harder to get. Right now it is easy to get.
 
ProdglArchitect said:
You cannot automatically say that a life cut short is more harmful (either eternally or merely temporally) than a life destroyed by addiction.
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I hope you’re joking. I can choose to not use pornography, but I can’t choose to not die if someone decides to start shooting while I’m at church, school, the grocery store, etc.
 
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TheAmazingGrace said:
Watching freely provided videos of adults engaging in consensual relations isn’t in the same ballpark as mowing down children in their own school.
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How do you reason that? Pornography is far more common and destroys more lives.
 
To concede to an extent, sure. I have said that gun violence can take precedent over pornography, and I stand by that.

However, not all pornography is consensual. Additionally, the correlation between it and sexual trafficking is pretty strong. The societal harm it has caused is evident enough, IMO.
 
Saxum said:
Legislation should not enforce morality. Enforcement of morality is dangerous.
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All laws are about enforcing morality. Laws against murder exist because murder is wrong. The question of what should be illegal is prudential.
 
It’s not impenetrable, but it’s very hard to index. Also, considering everything that goes on in the dark web, I don’t think the FBI is going to be too concerned if people tune in to watch adults have consensual sex.
 
Maximilian75 said:
However, not all pornography is consensual. Additionally, the correlation between it and sexual trafficking is pretty strong. The societal harm it has caused is evident enough, IMO.
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I’m all for banning pornography that involves rape, child abuse, animal abuse, etc. That’s not what they’re talking about, though.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
I hope you’re joking. I can choose to not use pornography, but I can’t choose to not die if someone decides to start shooting while I’m at church, school, the grocery store, etc.
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You can’t choose not to be effected by people whose life’s are harmed by porn. For instance you may be killed by a person who participated in porn and whose mind was warped by it. Lots of killers had their minds twisted by porn.
 
exnihilo said:
How do you reason that? Pornography is far more common and destroys more lives.
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People can recover from pornography addiction. Innocent children can’t recover from being dead. Their grieving parents, siblings, extended family, friends, teachers, coaches, and pastors can’t ever recover from that child’s loss either.
 
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