Florida Legislature and Pornography

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TheAmazingGrace said:
Also, considering everything that goes on in the dark web, I don’t think the FBI is going to be too concerned if people tune in to watch adults have consensual sex.
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Right, the government doesn’t care to stop the scourge of porn. However it spends plenty of resources looking to enforce far less serious problems.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
People can recover from pornography addiction. Innocent children can’t recover from being dead. Neither can their grieving parents, siblings, extended family, friends, teachers, coaches, pastors, etc.
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The fact that you say it is an addiction suggest plenty of people don’t recover. With most addictions plenty of people never recover.

But how do you reason murder is worse than porn?
 
Saxum said:
The law that a woman can abort her baby is immoral. The law against jaywalking is amoral.
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The law against jaywalking is based on the idea we should have an ordered society because order is good. It isn’t that jaywalking is intrinsically immoral.
 
exnihilo said:
The fact that you say it is an addiction suggest plenty of people don’t recover. With most addictions plenty of people never recover.
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Not everyone who watches porn is an addict. Everyone who gets murdered is dead, though.
 
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So you obviously can’t support your claim and want to appeal to emotion.
 
Catholics should agree that porn is immoral. But that doesn’t mean we should make it illegal. Rather, we should do our job and evangelise society. If we converted society, laws against porn wouldn’t be necessary because nobody would want to watch it.

And any comparison between porn and murder doesn’t dignify a response.
 
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exnihilo said:
So you obviously can’t support your claim and want to appeal to emotion.
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If I watch one porn vid with consenting adults and then never do it again, then nothing’s really changed and nobody’s life is significantly affected by me having viewed that one video one time. If I shoot a person in the head just once, that is a life irrevocably lost, and all of the people who loved that person will be forever affected by their loss. How in God’s name can you even begin to claim they’re equivalent?
 
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I agree that just because it is immoral doesn’t mean it should be illegal. But as it stands any kid who has access to a phone, tablet or computer can instantly get hard core porn. There isn’t a single thing as harmful as this that is allowed unfettered access. We have a government that regulates lightbulbs but won’t do a single thing to restrict porn access on account of children.
 
So the sin you like, porn, is not a big deal. But the sin you don’t like, murder, is. That isn’t uncommon for people to justify their sin.
 
How do you know that? How do you know that those actors are consenting? Even if it’s free porn, money still goes to the website you use- Advertisers pay for ads on a ‘per-view’ basis, so you indirectly fund pornography in your viewership.
 
exnihilo said:
So the sin you like, porn, is not a big deal. But the sin you don’t like, murder, is. That isn’t uncommon for people to justify their sin.
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I don’t watch porn, nor have I ever recommended it to anyone. Thanks for the slander, though.
 
Saxum said:
And any comparison between porn and murder doesn’t dignify a response.
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Many more souls are lost due to porn than murder. So maybe you should rethink that. If all that matters is living a long earthly life then you are right. But that isn’t a Catholic perspective.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
I hope you’re joking. I can choose to not use pornography…
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I’m really not joking, and if you’re addicted, you can’t necessarily choose not to.

I have been actively trying to stop using pornography for five years. I attend group meetings, go to confession frequently, try to pray and do holy reading, and yet despite all that it still takes next to nothing to implant thoughts in my mind that drive me to look again.

A random errant though, some association I’ve built up, the slightest suggestion of something illicit and familiar… Just one bit of stimulation, even from something that is itself innocent but with which I have developed some mental connection to something illicit. I have to be on guard at all times when watching TV, browsing the internet, even hopping on my phone for half a minute to look up some bit of information.

Both things are problems, but pornography affects far more people than gun violence.

However, this either/or mentality is, frankly, idiotic. Both things are problems deserving of our attention.
 
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