Florida 'stand your ground' shooter Michael Drejka charged with manslaughter

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Annie said:
the issue of the police’s obligation to protect us going to be further refined as time goes on
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i am pretty sure that the Warren v. District of Columbia decision said that no specific duty exists between the police and individuals baring some sort of special relationship between the police and a specific individual. I may not have that exactly correct but essientially it says the police are not legally obligated to protect you specifically.
 
The American way was a more democratic form of law. There wasn’t so much professional law enforcement. You can see remnants with bail bondsmen today. Those are just regular people who apprehend criminals.
 
Exactly: they can’t be prosecuted or sued for certain types of individual failures, but they are still required to protect the public at large.

Non-police individuals do not have this duty.

At the same time that the Warren incident occurred, we also had incidents of “swatting,” where people phoned in fake tips to the police resulting in SWAT teams. We just never hear about the times when things go the way they are supposed to go.
 
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7_Sorrows:
I didn’t provide any information. I said he was not next to the car …
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He was standing away from her car
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The video shows that this statement is not true.
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He was standing away from her car. He was not next to it, leaning against it, touching it, sitting on it, putting his hands on the car.
 
But he has been harassing the people in the car.

Please just admit that he had no right to be telling anyone where they could or could not park.
 
Annie said:
Exactly: they can’t be prosecuted or sued for certain types of individual failures, but they are still required to protect the public at large.
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They aren’t required to protect the public at large either. They might. But they aren’t compelled to or liable for not doing so.
 
I am sure daily there are people reprimanded for parking in a handicapped space when they don’t have the license plate or sticker. It just doesn’t lead to violence like this did. Some businesses have adequate spaces for handicap parking and others have limited parking
depending on the size of their parking lot.

This woman was inside her vehicle. She could have ignored the man, rolled up her window or moved. She was not forced to stay there. Was she yelling back at him and arguing? Was she being belligerant making him angrier? We don’t know yet the exact exchange between the driver and the man.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Did I use the word “uppity”? No, you did.
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I did. That’s my response to your implication that she was somehow at fault for the death of her husband/boyfriend/father of her children/whatever he was.
 
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7_Sorrows:
Did I use the word “uppity”? No, you did.
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I did. That’s my response to your implication that she was somehow at fault for the death of her husband/boyfriend/father of her children/whatever he was.
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Again you are wrong. I was responding to
Sally’s post #196 about how he had no right to be telling anyone where they could park.

You do realize there are some people who believe rules apply to everyone, but them.
If she is going to park in a handicap space, she probably doesn’t want anyone
correcting her.
 
7_Sorrows said:
If she is going to park in a handicap space, she probably doesn’t want anyone
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No doubt. And she shouldn’t have been parking in a handicapped spot (although, as discussed above, she wasn’t really parking, she was standing, which, at least here in NYC, is perfectly legal).

Still, nobody appointed Mr. Drejka as armed vigilante meter maid. I think he’s the primary villain in this sad incident. Mr. McGlockton absolutely should not have responded with physical violence (although we don’t know what, if any, threats were made by Mr. Drejka to Ms. Jacobs), but Mr. Drejka appears to have killed Mr. McGlockton without being in imminent danger.

“Killed” being the important word here.
 
He should’ve called the police. He should not have been telling her what to do or not to do.

Do you go up to people parked where they shouldn’t be and give them the what for? Do you yell at people who jaywalk? If not, why not? Aren’t these major crimes that all of us should be preventing? Or, do you, like the rest of us (and all normal people), just shake your head at the rudeness of some people and go on with your life?

Perhaps this bombastic idiot should have done the same thing instead of trying to be a cop. Then he iwould not have felt the need to shoot someone.
 
I don’t know anything about this man or his mental health. No, he was not the parking police.

Like I said previously, we can go round and round, but it is up to the court system
now.
 
That is what I thought. Your previous post is nonsense. Typical liberal nonsense of which I see a lot of here at CAF when someone doesn’t agree with them.
 
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