Florida's GOP gubernatorial nominee says a vote for his black opponent would 'monkey this up'

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marybobo:
Plenty of people use the phrase “monkey it up” without any connotation to race
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Perhaps. Although “mess around” or “muck around” are probably far more common. Given the overtones, it was an intriguing choice of words.

So many who are posting on this thread with such incredulity that the words could be taken as having racial overtones, also have taken great liberty in putting a very negative spin on the the words of politicians that they oppose. What a surprise!
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Pot meet kettle.

So many who are posting on this thread with such credulity that the words should be taken as having racial overtones, also have taken great liberty in putting a very negative spin on the the words of politicians that they oppose. What a surprise!
 
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www.powerlineblog.com

Yes, it is an expression that is used. Ben Shapiro’s column on this linked as well and posted in this thread.
 
ucfengr said:
over the last year has Dems pretty freaked out and they’re reaching for anything…anything to try to stem the tide
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Let them pull in as much rope as they want. It’ll take a lot of rope to hang that overfed donkey.
 
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ProVobis said:
As Donald should be for Judge Curiel not throwing him in jail for contempt of court.
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He was never in contempt of court. A person is in contempt only when he disobeys a court order directly or exhibits personal contempt for the judge in the judge’s presence and in open court.
 
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This is THE most inane attempt at painting a perfectly common expression as being racist! In fact Obama himself used this very expression.
Seriously how pathetic!
 
7_Sorrows said:
There also is a little game popular with kids called Barrel of Monkeys. The monkeys come in a barrel and you take them out and see how many you can hang onto the tails.

I loved the old tv show the Monkees when I was a teenager.
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Well I’ll be a monkey’s uncle, so did I!
 
JonNC said:
And Dredd Scott, and Jim Crow, and the KKK, and interment of Americans of Japanese origin, and the Trail of Tears.
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Sure. But that has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, or the Republican Party, today.

It’s just wordplay to try and sneak in the idea that the Democratic Party is the party of racism.
 
Inisfallen said:
Sure. But that has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, or the Republican Party, today.
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I think it does. I think identity politics and intersectionality are as racist and toxic to our nation as any previous racist practices.
Identity politics, regardless of its source, white supremacists or intersectionality proponents, is evil. And right now, most of it still comes from progressive Democrats.
Inisfallen said:
It’s just wordplay to try and sneak in the idea that the Democratic Party is the party of racism.
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It remains the party of racism
 
JonNC said:
I think it does. I think identity politics and intersectionality are as racist and toxic to our nation as any previous racist practices.
Identity politics, regardless of its source, white supremacists or intersectionality proponents, is evil. And right now, most of it still comes from progressive Democrats.
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What can I say, I think you’re beyond wrong, that this is a fundamental difference between you and me.

I do not believe that any mention of race, any acknowledgement of past racism, any effort to redress the wrongs of the past, any acknowledgement that there is still systemic racism in this country, and that many, many people are disadvantaged because of that systemic racism, is itself racism.

I don’t think Black Lives Matter is a racist movement (although I’m sure you can find a few racists within the movement), I don’t think to say that rampant de facto segregation of our schools and cities is the result of ongoing institutional racism, I don’t think to observe the fact (and I see this one every day) that black graduates of the best law schools get hired by major firms at a much lower rate than white graduates makes me a racist. I don’t think that to acknowledge any of those things makes me a racist. I don’t think noticing that the public school which my daughter will attend starting next week is maintained better, staffed better, is safer, is cleaner, is better in every way, than the school a little black girl a couple of neighborhoods over will attend in the same city makes me a racist.

I think that to deny any of that is in fact racism, albeit perhaps unconscious.

I think that refusal to acknowledge this nation’s sin when it comes to its treatment of our fellow citizens of African descent is shameful. I think refusal to acknowledge that we have to do what we can to make good on the promises of America to all of its citizens is just plain wrong.
 
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Imdaman said:
I flagged this post as inappropriate because I find it highly racist. Which race are you comparing to a dog I wonder?
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That’s ridiculous, and you know it. Leaf’s post didn’t compare anyone to a dog.

I’m really getting sick of this endless flagging harassment.
 
Inisfallen said:
What can I say, I think you’re beyond wrong, that this is a fundamental difference between you and me.
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Perhaps.
Inisfallen said:
I do not believe that any mention of race, any acknowledgement of past racism, any effort to redress the wrongs of the past, any acknowledgement that there is still systemic racism in this country, and that many, many people are disadvantaged because of that systemic racism, is itself racism.
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I didn’t say any of this is racist what I said is that identity politics, regardless of source, is racist. What said is that intersectionality is racist. I stand by those statements.
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I don’t think Black Lives Matter is a racist movement (although I’m sure you can find a few racists within the movement),
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If I started an organization called write lives matter, it would rightfully be regarded as racist. The same applies to BLM.
Do the lives of American blacks matter? Absolutely. No more and no less than any other racial or ethnic group.
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I don’t think to say that rampant de facto segregation of our schools and cities is the result of ongoing institutional racism,
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If you don’t have specific, verifiable proof, then it is racist. There may be individual instances of racism, but to state there is institutional racism requires specific, verifiable proof. Without proof, it is racist.
Inisfallen said:
I don’t think to observe the fact (and I see this one every day) that black graduates of the best law schools get hired by major firms at a much lower rate than white graduates makes me a racist.
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If you do not have specific, verifiable proof that the hiring numbers are intentionally related to race, then the charge is racist. If you have specific evidence against individual firms, then I would stand in condemnation of that firm.
Inisfallen said:
I don’t think that to acknowledge any of those things makes me a racist. I don’t think noticing that the public school which my daughter will attend starting next week is maintained better, staffed better, is safer, is cleaner, is better in every way, than the school a little black girl a couple of neighborhoods over will attend in the same city makes me a racist.
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If you do not have specific, verifiable evidence that the reason for any differences is intentionally based on race, it is a racist charge.

Broad brush accusations of institutional racism are, in and of themselves, racist.
Inisfallen said:
I think that to deny any of that is in fact racism, albeit perhaps unconscious.
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This is arrogant and is, in itself, a racist charge, because it provides no proof or evidence. To state that any of these are racist without specific, verifiable evidence is a racist charge.
 
Inisfallen said:
I think that refusal to acknowledge this nation’s sin when it comes to its treatment of our fellow citizens of African descent is shameful. I think refusal to acknowledge that we have to do what we can to make good on the promises of America to all of its citizens is just plain wrong.
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The greatest denial is the ongoing denial of the source of racism in this country historically, the Democratic Party. The ongoing denial that it continues today is equally egregious.
My original post did anything but deny the sin of racism that this country still bears. I specifically mentioned Dredd Scott, Jim Crow, and other evidences of historic racism. All if it is based on identity, in one way or another. This racism continues today in the form of identity politics and intersectionality.
I believe DiSantis is just the most recent target
 
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