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CrossofChrist
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But, this is for the German bishops and the Vatican to ultimately deal with. Considering there has been no rebuke for the past 1000 years about Church taxes in Europe, who are we to disobey bishops?
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LongingSoul
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I read that this idea is just being floated at the moment as a way to address a growing problem. The sacraments are still as ‘free’ as anywhere else.
I mean its logical though that if the Parishes rely on a tax allocation from the State to survive, there must be some kind of third party accountability scheme. If you pay car registration in order that the roads you want to used are maintained properly, you are legally accountable if you use those roads without paying the tax. Hopefully stressing the correlation between the tax dollar and the maintenance of the Parish will be enough to inform the conscience of most Catholics without having to present a tax document each time you go to confession or Holy Communion. One would like to hope that a practicing Catholic is more likely to be honest in all aspects of their life, especially towards taxation law. What is the alternative? Let their parish close down out of spite?
I mean its logical though that if the Parishes rely on a tax allocation from the State to survive, there must be some kind of third party accountability scheme. If you pay car registration in order that the roads you want to used are maintained properly, you are legally accountable if you use those roads without paying the tax. Hopefully stressing the correlation between the tax dollar and the maintenance of the Parish will be enough to inform the conscience of most Catholics without having to present a tax document each time you go to confession or Holy Communion. One would like to hope that a practicing Catholic is more likely to be honest in all aspects of their life, especially towards taxation law. What is the alternative? Let their parish close down out of spite?
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saintjohnxxiii
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Have Catholics in Europe been denied Sacraments for the past 1,000 years for opting out of this tax?But, this is for the German bishops and the Vatican to ultimately deal with. Considering there has been no rebuke for the past 1000 years about Church taxes in Europe, who are we to disobey bishops?
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CrossofChrist
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Not saying this specific tax has been around that long…I think only about 80 years or so. But Church taxes in general have been around that long.Have Catholics in Europe been denied Sacraments for the past 1,000 years for opting out of this tax?
According to wikipedia “non-compliance was simply threatened with excommunication”.
What wikipedia says about Spain’s former Church tax:
Despite the name, the diezmo was not always exactly ten percent. The actual amount differed in different places and times. Nor was it extended to all products of agriculture and husbandry, which led to market distortions as farmers shifted to whatever was not taxed. The most efficacious measure against fraud was excommunication, which would remain in place until one’s debt was paid.
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