No need to use perspective talking when we know the last words.
npatrol:npatrol:Either he is a liar or he is not. He did not lie in the bond hearing. He did not lie about knowledge of self defense laws. The person who they said lied was his wife not him. The question asked was about the SYG which he did not know that term as it is incorrect terminology what he was taught in class was the correct terminnoly not the slang. You have been told this before yet you like to promote the lie. Isn’t that bearing false witness?
It means that your stupid to try to hit someone with a gun. All evidence shows that TM was the aggressor. Z said that TM said he was going to kill him and the fight that ensued shows that was his intent.He was on top of GZ when GZ thought he was reaching for the gun. He was not trying to save his life but to take GZ’s life that is what the evidence proved. Your he saw the gun and punched GZ is total fantasy.No need to use perspective talking when we know the last words.
No, TM knew GZ had a gun and had no other alternative but to assault GZ and try to get the gun to save his life. That’s why he reached for it/touched it whichever is correct.
TM already knew he was on a losing end of a situation but did what he could to save his life. GZ was on patrol that night. ( self appointed patrol)
GZ IS a liar. He did not know the term of SYG, Yea right. I believe that NOT. You put a lot of trust in GZ’s account which I don’t.Either he is a liar or he is not. He did not lie in the bond hearing. He did not lie about knowledge of self defense laws. The person who they said lied was his wife not him. The question asked was about the SYG which he did not know that term as it is incorrect terminology what he was taught in class was the correct terminnoly not the slang. You have been told this before yet you like to promote the lie. Isn’t that bearing false witness?
Believing everything out of GZ’s mouth is a fantasy.
I do know from legal testimony that Treyvon’s last words were you’re gonna die tonight Mexplective FexplectiveER.
Since what he said is backed up by the evidence.
There is no evidence that GZ tried to detain TM that is a fantasy you made up. You have not provided any proof other than what you claim.
Nope it is not just GZ’s accounts but what the evidence showed. You have not demonstrated at all that he is a liar. You are unwilling to look at evidence that counters your fantasies.
It was shown that the eyewitnees that said GZ was on top was mistaken in her id of GZ and it was actually TM who she saw.
It was a serious assault in which he was endanger of dying. It is your opinion that he brought it on himself. You seem to believe that TM was justified in attacking him. GZ was following him and that gave TM the right to assault him.
He was up to no good??? He was trying to protect his community and that is no good?
Buzz, wrong answer according to GZ ; you need to re read the transcript of the trial.
Since GZ never testified, how could it be “according to GZ”?
The above snippets have been previously addressed…Since what he said is backed up by the evidence.
There is no evidence that GZ tried to detain TM that is a fantasy you made up. You have not provided any proof other than what you claim.
The rest is just opinion not based on facts.
Nope it is not just GZ’s accounts but what the evidence showed. You have not demonstrated at all that he is a liar. You are unwilling to look at evidence that counters your fantasies.
It was shown that the eyewitnees that said GZ was on top was mistaken in her id of GZ and it was actually TM who she saw.
It was a serious assault in which he was endanger of dying. It is your opinion that he brought it on himself. You seem to believe that TM was justified in attacking him. GZ was following him and that gave TM the right to assault him.
He was up to no good??? He was trying to protect his community and that is no good?
WOW!
They have never been addressed with facts.
True but tell that to the policeman who have died in the line of duty. You neglect the fact that GZ was waiting for the very slow response of the police that did not arrive in time to save GZ from that beating that almost cost him his life.
Your personal opinion is not based on the facts. The one who did not let the police arrive was TM. By the evidence not fantasy TM was the attacker. GZ was waiting for the police when he was brutally attacked by a thug. Since TM was found with stolen goods, how is it that the profile was wrong? Since he attacked GZ, how was the profile wrong? Not wrong right on target.
Grass is green
Depends which moment of the day it was and who was around. He was a young man with potential and a bunch of negative influence just as all these kids are. Some are more effected by the peer pressure than others. But you know all this.
That’s the whole thing, moving to the original topic in relation to the Fla case. First being in Fla and a transient, tourist, much migration of retirement, state, in the deep South, and its crime. The vigilance of the police in this specific Stand Your Ground gated community, and then the law itself in relation. I see this as the bigger picture. I wouldn’t go as far to say first of all this community is representative of America as a whole because of the above unique characteristics compared to for example the Tri-State area. Then shooting someone and going home? Never heard of that, unless you are actually a police officer. And self defense takes a new spin with SYG. That to me is some incentive for offensive self defense. That one there I’m not sold on at all. Ya, I’m having a little issue with the good vigilance all the way around the board. Just saying, as related to the OP.
Yes, For police, the goal is vigilance, not vigilantes
GZ gave an account to the police that was played at the trial. It’s worth a read or listen.
I just read the armed and firing a weapon line; if trying to harm someone yes it was good Vigilance and your perspective?