For Pope, Catholic schools should be “inclusive”, open to all, striving for an “all-rounded, non-ideological culture” [AN]

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Speaking to the Association of Italian Catholic Parents, Francis called for an “education to the fullness of humanity.” He told parents that they “are the custodians with the duty and the primary and inalienable right to educate children,” who have the “delicate task of building bridges between school and territory, school and home, and school and civic institutions”.

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But they must teach the Catholic faith and not water it down for protestants, etc.

Too many Catholic universities have become “inclusive” and support gay marriage and abortion, some even promoting abortion by posting jobs for planned parenthood affiliates.
 
But they must teach the Catholic faith and not water it down for protestants, etc.

Too many Catholic universities have become “inclusive” and support gay marriage and abortion, some even promoting abortion by posting jobs for planned parenthood affiliates.
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Speaking to the Association of Italian Catholic Parents, Francis called for an “education to the fullness of humanity.” He told parents that they “are the custodians with the duty and the primary and inalienable right to educate children,” who have the “delicate task of building bridges between school and territory, school and home, and school and civic institutions”.

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Catholic schools seek to be:

“Inclusive”
“Generating harmony when the logic of exclusion and marginalisation seems to prevail”
“Do we believe that Catholic schools can foster the harmony of diversity? How can this be achieved in practice?”
“Work together so that Catholic education may have the face of the new humanism.”

It sounds very much like a San Francisco liberal! Seriously, I hope our schools here follow these very important precepts.
 
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Too many Catholic universities have become “inclusive” and support gay marriage and abortion, some even promoting abortion by posting jobs for planned parenthood affiliates.
I heard maybe some five years ago that Boston College (BC (a Jesuit-run place of “higher learning” in Brighton, Massachusetts, USA)), removed all the Crucifixes from all its classrooms, etc. :mad:

After that, I would not give a red cent to a “Catholic” school that does not have a Crucifix in each room!

When I visit a Jewish home, I expect to see at least one Mezuzah (on the right hand doorpost of the front door), and once inside it would be normal to see the Star of David and a Menorah for Hanukkah in a curio cabinet (if it is not Hanukkah, otherwise it would be on the dining room table). What is wrong with that! It is a Jewish Home!👍 Well, BC is supposed to be a Catholic college!

Sorry for the ranting!

Happy Advent!

Luz Maria
 
I heard maybe some five years ago that Boston College (BC (a Jesuit-run place of “higher learning” in Brighton, Massachusetts, USA)), removed all the Crucifixes from all its classrooms, etc. :mad:

After that, I would not give a red cent to a “Catholic” school that does not have a Crucifix in each room!

When I visit a Jewish home, I expect to see at least one Mezuzah (on the right hand doorpost of the front door), and once inside it would be normal to see the Star of David and a Menorah for Hanukkah in a curio cabinet (if it is not Hanukkah, otherwise it would be on the dining room table). What is wrong with that! It is a Jewish Home!👍 Well, BC is supposed to be a Catholic college!

Sorry for the ranting!

Happy Advent!

Luz Maria
Gosh, exactly how bad are things with the Jesuits?? For years, I have been hearing that many priests of this order have watered down teachings of the Church and continually failed to present the rich spiritual life that the Church brings in her Traditions.

I do admire this order and it is a shame that it has gone the way it has. Since Pope Francis is a Jesuit, I am hopeful that the order be reformed so that new generations of priests can live to the name as great generations before had done.
 
Gosh, exactly how bad are things with the Jesuits?? For years, I have been hearing that many priests of this order have watered down teachings of the Church and continually failed to present the rich spiritual life that the Church brings in her Traditions.

I do admire this order and it is a shame that it has gone the way it has. Since Pope Francis is a Jesuit, I am hopeful that the order be reformed so that new generations of priests can live to the name as great generations before had done.
I think the Jesuits are as strong and faithful as ever. They are spreading Ignatian spirituality in all the work they do, both within and without the classroom walls. I read Fr Martin on a daily basis, and I think his presence in Social Media is a tribute to many Catholics and non-Catholics alike. You should be proud of the work they do!
 
Instead of reading the title and preparing to run all around the internet shouting, “Scandal! Scandal! Scandal!” It would be better to read what Pope Francis is saying.

Catholic schools should be places of quality education. It is important to For parents and grandparents to be the primary educators of children. Catholic schools should prepare children to live in a world of diversity.

All these ideas are good and they should be done in Catholic schools.

Instead of making negative comments about what one might assume the Pope is trying to say, let us all try to look at his words with eyes of faith and charity. Let’s all do our Christian duty and continue to pray for him as he does his pastoral work as the vicar of Christ.
 
Well the word Catholic comes from “katholikos” which means universal. :cool:

Plus, the Catholic Faith is more than an ideology. 🙂
 
The nearest this address gets to anything resembling formation in the Catholic Faith is ‘human and Christian values’ (said twice). Notice: ‘human’ first, and ‘Christian’ second. And ‘values’, not ‘beliefs’ or ‘convictions’. Keep in mind the Pope is addressing Catholic educators.

And this part:

“For example, we know that the Catholic schools must pass on an all-rounded, non-ideological culture. But what does this actually mean? Do we believe that Catholic schools can foster the harmony of diversity?”

Off the cuff, I could interpret this as meaning: don’t teach Catholicism as the absolute truth or as the one religion actually founded by Christ. Have a look at other religious or non-religious systems of thought and respect them all but endorse non of them. Let the children come out of school with warm feelings for everyone but with no real convictions other than a sense of human values.

Can anyone refute that?
 
What exactly is this ‘new humanism’ he spoke of in this story?
The Fifth National Ecclesial Congress of the Italian Church, was dedicated this year to the theme “In Jesus Christ, the new humanism”.

*Pope Francis: A new humanism in Christ Jesus

(Vatican Radio) “I don’t want to design in the abstract a ‘new humanism,’ a certain idea of man, but to present with simplicity some features of the practical Christian humanism that is present in the ‘mind’ of Christ Jesus.”

Pope Francis was speaking in Florence at a meeting of the Fifth National Convention of the Italian Church. In a programmatic speech, Pope Francis laid out his vision for “a new humanism in Christ Jesus.”

The Holy Father said humanism should take its starting point from “the centrality of Jesus,” in whom we discover “the features of the authentic face of man.” His reflection took its starting point from the passage from St Paul’s Letter to the Philippians: “Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus.” What is this attitude? the Pope asked. He suggested three specific traits: humility, disinterest, and happiness (It: beatitudine).

With regard to humility, the Pope said we should pursue the glory of God, and not our own. “The glory of God that blazes in the humility of the cave of Bethlehem or in the dishonour of the Cross of Christ always surprises us.” Disinterest is seen in the quote from Philippians, which speaks of “each one looking out not for his own interests, but [also] everyone for those of others.” A Christian’s humanity, he said, is not narcissistic or self-centred, but always goes out to others, which leads us always to work and to fight to make the world a better place. Finally, a Christian is happy (It: beato) because he has within him the joy of the Gospel. Jesus shows us the path to happiness in the Beatitudes, which “begin with a blessing, and end with the promise of consolation.”

These three traits, the Pope said, show that the Church must not be obsessed with power, even if it seems as though power would be useful. “If the Church does not take up the attitude of Jesus, it is disoriented, and loses its senses.”

Pope Francis acknowledged the temptations the Church faces, mentioning two in particular: Pelagianism and Gnosticism. “Pelagianism leads us to have faith in structures, in organizations, in plans that are perfect because they are abstract.” The reform of the Church does not mean simply coming up with yet another plan to change structures, but instead means “being grafted onto and rooted in Christ, [the Church] allowing herself to be lead by the Spirit.”

Another temptation, Gnosticism, “leads to trusting in logical and clear reasoning, which, however, loses the tenderness of the flesh of the brother.” The fascination with Gnosticism, he said, “is that of “a purely subjective faith whose only interest is a certain experience or a set of ideas and bits of information which are meant to console and enlighten, but which ultimately keep one imprisoned in his or her own thoughts and feelings.”

The Pope noted that Italy has many great saints, such as St Francis of Assisi and St Philip Neri, whose example can help people live the faith with humility, disinterest, and joy. He also gave the example of Don Camillo, a famous Italian literary character. The Pope said he was struck at how the fictional priest always united “the prayer of a good pastor” with the evident closeness to his people.

Pope Francis also had specific recommendations for his audience. He encouraged Bishops to always be pastors, saying, “This will be your joy.” He spoke, too, about the importance of the “social inclusion” of the less fortunate, recalling the teaching of St John Paul II and Benedict XVI on the doctrine of the preferential option for the poor.

He also called on the Italian Church to avoid being concerned with power, with its own image, with money. “Evangelical poverty,” he said, “is creative, welcoming, supportive, and rich in hope.”

“I recommend to you also, in a special way, the capacity for dialogue and encounter,” the Pope said. The best way to dialogue, he said, is not simply by discussing and talking together, but by working together with all men and women of good will. He also encouraged young people to overcome apathy, to become “builders of Italy, to put [themselves] to work for a better Italy.”

Today, Pope Francis said, “we are not living in an era of change so much as a change of eras.” In the face of the challenges we face in the modern world, he said we must seek to see our problems as “challenges, not obstacles,” reminding us that the Lord is active and at work in the world.” Wherever we find ourselves, he said, we must “never construct walls or borders, but [rather] piazzas and field hospitals.”

Concluding his address, Pope Francis said again he prefers to see the Italian Church as restless, “always close to the abandoned, the forgotten, the imperfect.” He said he longs for “a joyful Church with the face of a mother, who understands, accompanies, caresses,” and called on those present to “dream . . . about this Church, believe in it, innovate with freedom.” Pope Francis said it wasn’t his place to tell them how to accomplish “this dream,” but nonetheless encouraged them to look to his Apostolic Exhortation Evangelii gaudium, seeking ways to deepen their understanding of its message, and find new ways to implement its practical suggestions.”

en.radiovaticana.va/news/2015/11/10/pope_francis_a_new_humanism_in_christ_jesus/1185723*
 
This is not actually humanism. Wikipedia defines it as:

Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over unthinking acceptance of dogma or superstition. The meaning of the term humanism has fluctuated according to the successive intellectual movements which have identified with it.[1] Generally, however, humanism refers to a perspective that affirms some notion of human freedom and progress. In modern times, humanist movements are typically aligned with secularism, and as of 2015 “Humanism” typically refers to a non-theistic life stance centred on human agency and looking to science rather than revelation from a supernatural source to understand the world.[2][3]

Dictionary.com:

Philosophy. a variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.

The Free Dictionary:
  1. (Philosophy) the denial of any power or moral value superior to that of humanity; the rejection of religion in favour of a belief in the advancement of humanity by its own efforts
  2. (Philosophy) a philosophical position that stresses the autonomy of human reason in contradistinction to the authority of the Church
The Pope is in fact advocating an anti-humanism, the fundamental attitudes of which are in direct contradiction to the secular self-sufficiency of humanism as conventionally understood. Which is fine but confusing when the same term is used to describe the exact opposite of what that term is customarily used to define. The Pope should opt for a different word - ‘Christism’ perhaps? (he could also use ‘Christianity’ or even ‘Catholicism’ - just sayin’ :D)
 
This is not actually humanism. Wikipedia defines it as:

Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over unthinking acceptance of dogma or superstition. The meaning of the term humanism has fluctuated according to the successive intellectual movements which have identified with it.[1] Generally, however, humanism refers to a perspective that affirms some notion of human freedom and progress. In modern times, humanist movements are typically aligned with secularism, and as of 2015 “Humanism” typically refers to a non-theistic life stance centred on human agency and looking to science rather than revelation from a supernatural source to understand the world.[2][3]

Dictionary.com:

Philosophy. a variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.

The Free Dictionary:
  1. (Philosophy) the denial of any power or moral value superior to that of humanity; the rejection of religion in favour of a belief in the advancement of humanity by its own efforts
  2. (Philosophy) a philosophical position that stresses the autonomy of human reason in contradistinction to the authority of the Church
The Pope is in fact advocating an anti-humanism, the fundamental attitudes of which are in direct contradiction to the secular self-sufficiency of humanism as conventionally understood. Which is fine but confusing when the same term is used to describe the exact opposite of what that term is customarily used to define. The Pope should opt for a different word - ‘Christism’ perhaps? (he could also use ‘Christianity’ or even ‘Catholicism’ - just sayin’ :D)
John Paul II used the same term.
 
This is not actually humanism. Wikipedia defines it as:

Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over unthinking acceptance of dogma or superstition. The meaning of the term humanism has fluctuated according to the successive intellectual movements which have identified with it.[1] Generally, however, humanism refers to a perspective that affirms some notion of human freedom and progress. In modern times, humanist movements are typically aligned with secularism, and as of 2015 “Humanism” typically refers to a non-theistic life stance centred on human agency and looking to science rather than revelation from a supernatural source to understand the world.[2][3]

Dictionary.com:

Philosophy. a variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.

The Free Dictionary:
  1. (Philosophy) the denial of any power or moral value superior to that of humanity; the rejection of religion in favour of a belief in the advancement of humanity by its own efforts
  2. (Philosophy) a philosophical position that stresses the autonomy of human reason in contradistinction to the authority of the Church
The Pope is in fact advocating an anti-humanism, the fundamental attitudes of which are in direct contradiction to the secular self-sufficiency of humanism as conventionally understood. Which is fine but confusing when the same term is used to describe the exact opposite of what that term is customarily used to define. The Pope should opt for a different word - ‘Christism’ perhaps? (he could also use ‘Christianity’ or even ‘Catholicism’ - just sayin’ :D)
Christian humanism has a long history, going back to the Renaissance. In modern times there has been a revival starting with de Lubac, Blondel, etc.

Pope Paul VI:

United with the life-giving Christ, man’s life is newly enhanced; it acquires a transcendent humanism which surpasses its nature and bestows new fullness of life. This is the highest goal of human self-fulfillment.

St. JPII has too many examples for when he mentions Christian humanism…feel free to look them up for yourself if you are interested.

Pope Francis:

The Christian substratum of certain peoples – most of all in the West – is a living reality. Here we find, especially among the most needy, a moral resource which preserves the values of an authentic Christian humanism. Seeing reality with the eyes of faith, we cannot fail to acknowledge what the Holy Spirit is sowing.

Ratzinger/Benedict XVI:

We, however, have a different goal: the Son of God, the true man. He is the measure of true humanism.

St Francis de Sales is an exemplary witness of Christian humanism; with his familiar style, with words which at times have a poetic touch, he reminds us that human beings have planted in their innermost depths the longing for God and that in him alone can they find true joy and the most complete fulfilment.
 
The nearest this address gets to anything resembling formation in the Catholic Faith is ‘human and Christian values’ (said twice). Notice: ‘human’ first, and ‘Christian’ second.
Grace presupposes nature.
And ‘values’, not ‘beliefs’ or ‘convictions’. Keep in mind the Pope is addressing Catholic educators.
What are Catholic values if not what we believe?
And this part:
“For example, we know that the Catholic schools must pass on an all-rounded, non-ideological culture. But what does this actually mean? Do we believe that Catholic schools can foster the harmony of diversity?”
Off the cuff, I could interpret this as meaning: don’t teach Catholicism as the absolute truth or as the one religion actually founded by Christ. Have a look at other religious or non-religious systems of thought and respect them all but endorse non of them. Let the children come out of school with warm feelings for everyone but with no real convictions other than a sense of human values.
Can anyone refute that?
Based on what Pope Francis has said in the past he is likely referring to being united in diversity rather than in uniformity.

Here’s the Catechism (814):

From the beginning, this one Church has been marked by a great diversity which comes from both the variety of God’s gifts and the diversity of those who receive them. Within the unity of the People of God, a multiplicity of peoples and cultures is gathered together. Among the Church’s members, there are different gifts, offices, conditions, and ways of life. "Holding a rightful place in the communion of the Church there are also particular Churches that retain their own traditions."263 The great richness of such diversity is not opposed to the Church’s unity. Yet sin and the burden of its consequences constantly threaten the gift of unity. And so the Apostle has to exhort Christians to "maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace."264

And here’s just one other example of the Pope speaking about diversity:

It is a beautiful image which tells us that the Church is like a great orchestra in which there is great variety. We are not all the same and we do not all have to be the same. We are all different, varied, each of us with his own special qualities. And this is the beauty of the Church: everyone brings his own gift, which God has given him, for the sake of enriching others. And between the various components there is diversity; however, it is a diversity that does not enter into conflict and opposition. It is a variety that allows the Holy Spirit to blend it into harmony. He is the true “Maestro”. He is harmony. And here let us ask ourselves: in our communities do we live in harmony or do we argue amongst ourselves? In my parish community, in my movement, in the place where I am part of the Church, is there gossip? If there is gossip, there is no harmony but rather conflict. And this is not the Church. The Church is everyone in harmony: never gossip about others, never argue! Let us accept others, let us accept that there is a fitting variety, that this person is different, that this person thinks about things in this way or that — that within one and the same faith we can think about things differently — or do we tend to make everything uniform? But uniformity kills life. The life of the Church is variety, and when we want to impose this uniformity on everyone we kill the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
 
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