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Justin_Swanton
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Mmm…I’m not quite sure this is what the Pope means, but there are problems as to what precisely the Pope means, so, might as well let it go.Grace presupposes nature.
Not quite. ‘Values’ - at least as I understand them - are a kind of ethical code, a moral outlook. Doctrine is different: it is the reason, the motivation and the final aim of that moral outlook. We are not good because it is nice to be good. We are good because Christ commands us to be, and he commands us to be because by being good we conform ourselves to his image, become like him (with the help of grace) and eventually join him in heaven.What are Catholic values if not what we believe?
I like this (I’ve bolded the bits I particularly like,) but I’m not sure this is what the Pope meant either in his address. Look at the context:For example, we know that the Catholic schools must pass on an all-rounded, non-ideological culture. But what does this actually mean? Do we believe that Catholic schools can foster the harmony of diversity? notice how 'non-ideological is tied to ‘harmony of diversity’] How can this be achieved in practice? This is not an easy challenge. Thank God that we can learn and share from many positive experiences in ***Italy ***so we must look for non-ideology and harmony of diversity in Italy] and around the world.Based on what Pope Francis has said in the past he is likely referring to being united in diversity rather than in uniformity.
Here’s the Catechism (814):From the beginning, this one Church has been marked by a great diversity which comes from both the variety of God’s gifts and the diversity of those who receive them. Within the unity of the People of God, a multiplicity of peoples and cultures is gathered together. Among the Church’s members, there are different gifts, offices, conditions, and ways of life. "Holding a rightful place in the communion of the Church there are also particular Churches that retain their own traditions. [this would refer to Uniates, etc.] "263 The great richness of such diversity is not opposed to the Church’s unity. Yet sin and the burden of its consequences constantly threaten the gift of unity. And so the Apostle has to exhort Christians to "maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace."264And here’s just one other example of the Pope speaking about diversity:It is a beautiful image which tells us that the Church is like a great orchestra in which there is great variety. We are not all the same and we do not all have to be the same. We are all different, varied, each of us with his own special qualities. And this is the beauty of the Church: everyone brings his own gift, which God has given him, for the sake of enriching others. And between the various components there is diversity; however, it is a diversity that does not enter into conflict and opposition. It is a variety that allows the Holy Spirit to blend it into harmony. He is the true “Maestro”. He is harmony. And here let us ask ourselves: in our communities do we live in harmony or do we argue amongst ourselves? In my parish community, in my movement, in the place where I am part of the Church, is there gossip? If there is gossip, there is no harmony but rather conflict. And this is not the Church. The Church is everyone in harmony: never gossip about others, never argue! Let us accept others, let us accept that there is a fitting variety, that this person is different, that this person thinks about things in this way or that — that within one and the same faith we can think about things differently — or do we tend to make everything uniform? But uniformity kills life. The life of the Church is variety, and when we want to impose this uniformity on everyone we kill the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
He is speaking in Italy to Italian educators, which means to educators from a culture that has two components: Catholicism and secularism. In this context the only ‘diversity’ that comes to mind is a mix of the two. And what does the Pope mean by ‘ideology’? Does ideology mean some sort of militant political system? Who on earth would teach that in a Catholic school in Italy?
The only sense I can give to ‘ideology’ is a religious intransigence, i.e. the teaching that being a Catholic is not as good or bad as not being one, that other religions are not the same when it comes to the practical effect on one’s life. The trouble of course is that the Pope doesn’t clarify what he means, so we are left with educated guesses. Look at how many threads are devoted to working out what the Pope means!