For the Love Of God let's DO something

  • Thread starter Thread starter Soutane
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
And after Mass, we are told: “The Mass is ended. Go in peace to love and serve the Lord.” Do we simply sit and wait for the next Mass or do we go and make our Catholic faith visible by conduct?
You made an excellent point that Father Corapi spoke about in his talks about Abortion.

He said; I assure you that if every Catholic in many countries got off their tuffs and protested far and wide against Abortion in our countries there would be very little abortion anywhere.

Now that’s speaking about over One Billion Catholics worldwide.
Sadly we all in some respect incur the guilt of sin for Abortion.
 
who here has the power to convience others? What can nothingness add but more nothingness? Why do we look to ourselves for the solution? How many of us go to god for our problems and put our trust in him? How many of us have a sit down for adoration, and how many of us plan out our days around christ? How can we expect to make a difference when we ignore daily the mass which is given in order to make that difference that we so want to see in the world? We want to go out and convict the world of sin before we cast the beams from our own eyes? Indifference is wrong but is humility the same as indifference? What good will puffed up chests yelling at the top of their lungs do for this world? Will it do more than one communion made at mass?

A catholic call to action is a call to the mass! What more could you do for this world…no what better thing could you do for this world than offer our blessed lord as a sacrifice to the father for the world and for ourselves? Why is this action which was first among the saints in life and during troubles the last among us?
We get a whopping .1 percent of our parishioners attendance at adoration…sad, really sad indeed!!!

I opted to no longer use the kneelers, even if the floor is concrete, it’s absolutely nothing at all compared to the sacrifice Christ made as well. The lamb is on the alter, the least we can do is show reverence and a small token of respect…
 
Boy I feel wicked stupid cuz I read this three times and still don’t have clue what the issue in question is.

:confused:
Amen. It is too vague.

I have a lot of whinges about certain things vis a vis some members of the Church in relation to doctrine and liturgy.

The watering down of doctrine, the ridiculous things they do to the mass, the syncretism and relativism.

So I decided to do something concrete ( makes me a little unpopular as it does rub some people the wrong way) by actually speaking up and correcting the errors.

The challenge that our Lord is giving us is usually within our millieu.

I think what we need to do is focus on what is going on in your parish, community, home and start there.

But first and foremost - pray! Ask for the guidance of the Holy Spirit and discern, discern, discern.
 
👍

It is really not very difficult to understand Soutane’s OP and I quite agree with his rallying cry that we do something other than whinge and moan. There is so much that we can do and Soutane’s OP only requests that we become more proactive, individually or collectively.
  1. If a news article is seen offensive, then by all means write to the paper to comment on it. We discuss about many news articles here, whinge and moan about them, so we just extend that effort just a little bit further in the direction of the Editor’s desks. Afterall, to exclusively whinge and moan here would be akin to preaching to the choir.
  2. If abortion is an issue one feels strongly against, rather than whinge and moan about it, support pro-life initiatives.
  3. If legislation infringes on one’s religious conscience, then write or speak to your political respresentative. Monitor each case that comes before the courts, be and stay informed to keep ahead. Complacency is what got us in this mess in the first place.
  4. If employers exercised unfair treatment of an employee because of their faith convictions, start or join a protest against the employer in support of the employee.
  5. If you feel that your children’s education and welfare are compromised by secular legislation which runs contrary to your religious convictions, by all means, send them to a faith school. Be involved in that school as a parent or board member.
  6. If you live on this side of the pond, try to be part of the welcoming committee for the Holy Father’s Papal visit. He needs our support as much as we need him.
  7. Support your Parish, Parish Councils and community. Offer to escort or give a ride to the elderly or disabled Catholics who wish to go to Mass but are unable to because of disability etc.
  8. Support a seminarian, individually or collectively. We need good priests!
The above are just a few ways in which we can become visible Catholics and I am sure some here are already doing one or two (or more !) of the above but, feel free to add.
Very, very, sensible post.

Another thing, wear something that identifies you as such. A cross, scapular, etc, and when asked about them, be ready with a good explanation.
 
Very, very, sensible post.

Another thing, wear something that identifies you as such. A cross, scapular, etc, and when asked about them, be ready with a good explanation.
A crucifix instead of a cross, and then the suffering of our Lord and the reason why can be explained. Then point them to the hope of the resurrection and the One who has led the way!
 
A crucifix instead of a cross, and then the suffering of our Lord and the reason why can be explained. Then point them to the hope of the resurrection and the One who has led the way!
Except that lots of people wear crucifixes as fashion statements - and rosary beads as fashion statements too (Madonna anyone? Hispanic gangs?).

Where I am a crucifix or Rosary around the neck wouldn’t raise an eyebrow - but my Rosary BRACELET has done once or twice, strangely enough. So has my Franciscan necklace with a Tau (T-shaped) cross on it 👍
 
Many of the Catholics who supported Obama were / are quite active in the church’s social justice campaigns and non-violence movements inspired by the gospels, Thoreau, Tolstoy, Ghandi, the Catholic Worker, Jacque Maritain, Thomas Merton and others - many of whom those on this thread hold with great distain.

Obama supporters were very selective in their support of social justice-they want justice only for those fortunate enough to escape the womb. Without the right to life their is no social justice. One can try and delude theselves that espousing “care” about the poor offsets a canidates suport of abortion but the Church says otherwise. Too often Catholics use “social jusitce” as an excuse to jettison Church teaching in favor of their political views.
 
The U.S. Bishops have made it very clear-There is no way we can reconcile supporting Obama with being Catholic. Every other issue pales in comparison to the pro-life issue. MILLIONS are BRUTALLY SLAUGHTERED every year, and Obama is doing his darndest to make sure it continues. He is, and this is no exaggeration, literally the most pro-choice President we have EVER had; he’s borderline radical on this issue. You cannot vote for Obama as a Catholic and be in good standing. Every other issue pales in comparison to the pro-life issue.

Does he have other good ideas? Sure. Do they matter while millions of babies are being slaughtered and he supports it? No. Are his intentions good? I’m sure they are, but as St. Augustine said (and I love this quote), “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.”
 
Except that lots of people wear crucifixes as fashion statements - and rosary beads as fashion statements too (Madonna anyone? Hispanic gangs?).

Where I am a crucifix or Rosary around the neck wouldn’t raise an eyebrow - but my Rosary BRACELET has done once or twice, strangely enough. So has my Franciscan necklace with a Tau (T-shaped) cross on it 👍
My, my.
 
And after Mass, we are told: “The Mass is ended. Go in peace to love and serve the Lord.” Do we simply sit and wait for the next Mass or do we go and make our Catholic faith visible by conduct?
I support anti abortiom rallies but how many of these rallies do you see the condemnation of those having the abortions or the doctors performing them? Who has read a sign that said “Christ loves you, and we love you so please don’t make this mistake”? I mean we are fighting against something that is legal in the eyes of the government so let’s protest and voice Gods love and Mercy at these clinics and I believe with Gods grace we will draw them out with love. Then we need to look at the political problem such as Catholic politicians that call themselves catholics while supporting pro-choice and other things that are against the Church! We should write to our Bishops so they can write to the Holy Father asking for the excommunication of such people! But moving past these points I would like to say that I don’t see the material on CAF or the posters on here as what’s causing the indifference or the lack of action in our society as the OPs post seems to insinuate. As we can read here in this thread many of the posters who are regulars here if not all are doing something, and are taking action.

God Bless
 
I support anti abortiom rallies but how many of these rallies do you see the condemnation of those having the abortions or the doctors performing them? Who has read a sign that said “Christ loves you, and we love you so please don’t make this mistake”? I mean we are fighting against something that is legal in the eyes of the government so let’s protest and voice Gods love and Mercy at these clinics and I believe with Gods grace we will draw them out with love. Then we need to look at the political problem such as Catholic politicians that call themselves catholics while supporting pro-choice and other things that are against the Church! We should write to our Bishops so they can write to the Holy Father asking for the excommunication of such people! But moving past these points I would like to say that I don’t see the material on CAF or the posters on here as what’s causing the indifference or the lack of action in our society as the OPs post seems to insinuate. As we can read here in this thread many of the posters who are regulars here if not all are doing something, and are taking action.

God Bless
I’ve been in front of the abortion clinic and with those holding signs along major roadways reminding passers-by that abortion kills. I would never stand in front of an abortion clinic with those who condemn women or doctors. We are there as a witness to the truth and in the spirit of love. One young lady offers alternatives to the women going inside. All need love, not condemnation.

The political issue is not insurmountable but it is more difficult. Look at each candidate’s background before voting. Look at their voting record.

What is causing indifference among too many Catholics is that one hour in Church is competing with many hours in front of the TV, computer, newspaper, radio or other media. Compared to 40 years ago, everything is oversexualized, families are fractured, and divorce and abortion have ended relationships.

Right now, the Catholic Church is running ads inviting Catholics to come back. What happened?
  • I had an abortion and I don’t know what to do, I think I’ll just avoid Church.
  • I had a divorce and no, I’m not going to get an anullment because then my kids will be bastards. And next time I get married, it will be a civil ceremony.
  • After the divorce, I lost all my in-laws and friends on his side because they blame me.
  • I’ve been brainwashed to believe the woman is not aborting a baby, just a ‘blob of tissue.’
  • I’ve decided Church teaching is stupid and I’ll just do things my way.
  • I work a lot because I’m paying child support, and I’m bitter.
Too many people got away from Church, and Catholic and other social groups because divorce cost them relationships, because abortion cost them relationships and because they have gradually become seduced by the world. Some feel they’ve gone too far from the Church that they don’t know how to come back. Trust me, like the father waiting for the return of his prodigal son, the Church is waiting with open arms.

A priest on Catholic Radio said too many Catholics are living like agnostics.

God bless,
Ed
 
A Catholic call to action is a call to the Mass!
Bravo :clapping::clapping::clapping:

As Scott Hahn said in the Lamb’s Supper, if you want to change the world the first thing you should do is go to Mass as often as you can (or something alone those lines) 🙂

Keep the focus on Christ. Peter sank when he looked at the waves instead of keeping his gaze on Our Lord.
 
And after Mass, we are told: “The Mass is ended. Go in peace to love and serve the Lord.” Do we simply sit and wait for the next Mass or do we go and make our Catholic faith visible by conduct?
The mass,the Eucharist the Church,the Servant of the servants of God are paramount but just as we have to cooperate with our salvation we must cooperate with the renewal of our faith.We must evangelize our Catholic friends and relatives.Invite them to come back to mass with you then take them out or bring them back to your place for breakkfast.Make it a weekly invitation,be persistent.My priest says we’re all responsible for bring one person into the Church-a logical extension is to bring back apostsasised Catholics.The best weapon we have is the Rosary.Mary promised us that she will entreat her Son to bring people in and back to the churches>Buy plastic rosarys and get instruction booklets and buy change purses at the dollar store.Attach a holy medal and have Father bless them-pass them on to friends and strangers,who don’t even know that they need them.pray the rosary for them or with them.I picked up a very respectable woman who needed a ride-she turned out to be a prostitute who solicited me .Instead of condemning her I gave her a Rosary and it turned out she was a lapsed Catholic and she burst into tears,when I drove her where she needed to go she gave me a VERY chaste kiss and thanked me.Whether she still sells herself ,i don’t know but I planted a seed and the rest is up to her and the Holy Spirit.Carry 2-3 Rosaries and give them to people who need them.It’s not the doing it’s the trying.
 
I’ve been in front of the abortion clinic and with those holding signs along major roadways reminding passers-by that abortion kills. I would never stand in front of an abortion clinic with those who condemn women or doctors. We are there as a witness to the truth and in the spirit of love. One young lady offers alternatives to the women going inside. All need love, not condemnation.

The political issue is not insurmountable but it is more difficult. Look at each candidate’s background before voting. Look at their voting record.

What is causing indifference among too many Catholics is that one hour in Church is competing with many hours in front of the TV, computer, newspaper, radio or other media. Compared to 40 years ago, everything is oversexualized, families are fractured, and divorce and abortion have ended relationships.

Right now, the Catholic Church is running ads inviting Catholics to come back. What happened?
  • I had an abortion and I don’t know what to do, I think I’ll just avoid Church.
  • I had a divorce and no, I’m not going to get an anullment because then my kids will be bastards. And next time I get married, it will be a civil ceremony.
  • After the divorce, I lost all my in-laws and friends on his side because they blame me.
  • I’ve been brainwashed to believe the woman is not aborting a baby, just a ‘blob of tissue.’
  • I’ve decided Church teaching is stupid and I’ll just do things my way.
  • I work a lot because I’m paying child support, and I’m bitter.
Too many people got away from Church, and Catholic and other social groups because divorce cost them relationships, because abortion cost them relationships and because they have gradually become seduced by the world. Some feel they’ve gone too far from the Church that they don’t know how to come back. Trust me, like the father waiting for the return of his prodigal son, the Church is waiting with open arms.

A priest on Catholic Radio said too many Catholics are living like agnostics.

God bless,
Ed
“THEY DON"T KNOW HOW TO COME BACK”.Let’s bring them back to the Father who is craning his neck looking for therm with rings for their fingers and ready to h kill the fatted calf for their redemption feast.I wish that I could find a Holy card with the beautiful painting of the overjoyed Father hugging his "found son.I would had them out to those who need them.It is SO easy to tell who they are.
 
Just sharing what happens when faith communities take to the public square and refuse to give to Cesar what is God’s.
Anti-life and anti-Christian campaigner Dr Evan Harris loses seat to Christian candidate in Oxford West and Abingdon
Christian concerns over Dr Harris’ extreme position on many ethical matters have undoubtedly played an important part in the result. Many local Christians and churches have engaged with the election process in a way not seen before. In particular, constituency resident and ordained Anglican minister, Rev Lynda Rose, has worked tirelessly and boldly to draw voters’ attention to the reality of Dr Harris’ anti-life and secularising agenda.
It seems that for many, these critical issues, which include matters of life and death, have outweighed party considerations.
 
Just sharing what happens when faith communities take to the public square and refuse to give to Cesar what is God’s.
Nicola Blackwood is now a Conservative MP.

She is also described as a ‘‘keen libertarian’’ on her own website.

The Conservatives are pro abortion, pro divorce, pro contraception, pro same sex marriages (under the guise of equality) to name but a few.

I don’t personally think this is a blow to secularism.

But Im not well versed yet in British politics so maybe Im missing something.
 
Obama supporters were very selective in their support of social justice-they want justice only for those fortunate enough to escape the womb. Without the right to life their is no social justice. One can try and delude theselves that espousing “care” about the poor offsets a canidates suport of abortion but the Church says otherwise. Too often Catholics use “social jusitce” as an excuse to jettison Church teaching in favor of their political views.
There are many people who are liberal who oppose abortion, just as there are many conservatives who oppose a preference for the poor as taught by Jesus.

I would venture to say that there are more liberals who believe in more of the teachings of Jesus than there are conservatives who do so.

And that makes it likely that there are more complete catholics who are liberal .

I say that because there are probably more liberal catholics who are against abortion than there are conservative catholics who are for for all the liberal issues that Jesus taught about.

I would be careful about calling the kettle black.

Peace
 
Just sharing what happens when faith communities take to the public square and refuse to give to Cesar what is God’s.
How encouraging.Catholics and non-Catholic Christians should make their presence felt at the polling booths.The Liberals will never again form a majority government in this country as they are so far to the left they are competing with the New Communist(DEMOCRARTIC) Party and the Greens who have nary a seat but who are great vote stealers.If our conservative governmement became Sociall Conservative they would win consistant majorities.People are fed up with Liberalism,Leftism and Communism-it’s a dying cocept appealing only to the envious and morally bankrupt.
There are alternatives-The Christian Heritage Party who are only rump parties for now but if the Federal Conservatives don’t smarten up who knows?
 
“I would venture to say that there are more liberals who believe in more of the teachings of Jesus than there are conservatives who do so.”
That is an absolutely calumnous,slanderous thing to say based merely upon your own prejudices.As a Catholic with a conservative bent especially socially I find that statement outrageous and offensive and most importantly grotesquely misinformed.
It was liberals who brought us abortion,euthanasia,and so-called same sex marriage.Are you confusing Jesus with someone else.Preposterous.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top