Foreplay when pregnant a sin if it doesn't go any further?

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Kage ar, you only converted 1998 but I’ll bet your wife tought you alot, and that is good to be with some one who knows about the faith it makes it alot easier when you get help. Congradulations on your years together, that is wonderful. Thank You for the links and by the way I still dont get it. Love of Christ Nancy I’m still in left field. Later!
 
Kage ar, you only converted 1998 but I’ll bet your wife tought you alot, and that is good to be with some one who knows about the faith it makes it alot easier when you get help. Congradulations on your years together, that is wonderful. Thank You for the links and by the way I still dont get it. Love of Christ Nancy I’m still in left field. Later!
Kage is a mommy and wife 😉
 
I told you the way it was told to me, by a Catholic, and I know the language was not good but I was told it that way, and I was mad, and that is another reason I stayed away from the church. Pardon me if that is wrong but,ive herd that word used just yesterday on this forum it is nothing new! only when someone new say’s it. You know I dont even care right now so dont barther answering this because I’m deleting all my threads I am in because all you can do is find fault, your no help.BY BY
gee… i’ve seen some short fuses here but this takes the cake…
 
I’m sorry I read half of this and I agreed with some but not all. I feel love making (Not Sex) should be between husband and wife, and the church should mind their business, and let people do what comes natural,animals do what comes natural, or do we condem them to? And dont say we dont have alot in common cause we do. Man Kills for nothing Animals kill for food. What is Grave matter? God Bless Nancy:)
the Church was put here on Earth to show us what is pleasing to God and waht is not… There are some sexual acts that are NOT… and we need to know aabout that because sometimes people can’t figure this stuff out on their own…

that is not saying they are stupid… and if it is saying that… I’m admitting i am not so bright sometimes…

for instance… one could say that test tube babies is a good thing (pleases God?) becaue life is brought into the world and "good " people who couldn’t otherwise have children now can…

yet, the Church studies this kind of thing, knows the details… and is in the position to tell us that this is NOT t he way God wants procreation done…

not all people think like the Church… until they hear the Church’s position… (and even then… :rolleyes:)…

it is the same with other sexual activities…
 
So if you dont do what the church wants you get xcomunicated? You know the MORMONS do that same thing. I feek real bad that peole cannot use theie won brains the goog Lord gave to us all. Praise be to the living God. Nancy
I use my own brain and it tells me that the Church was established by Jesus Christ Himself and therefore can be trusted in ALL its official teachings…

if that makes me someone who “can’t think for him/herself”… so be it…

I am a sheep… 🙂 and that’s quite all right…
 
You cannot be having to much fun with your Mate, if you have to think of what your doing all the time and wonder if you are sinning?Are you realy being honest? :
i rather think that this is not the case… that people are coming here to “learn” about what is appropriate… I mean, we all know that … what gays do is wrong … :eek: whether homo or hetero… other than that… why do people need advice on such matters??? :confused: :rolleyes: i think they post things like this for some other reason… could be wrong but…

i just don’t understand why people post this kind of R-rated stuff…

the main reason i came here was to complain about it…

some previous posts are pornographic to me…

call me a prude… i don’t care.
 
HI Newbetx, One more thing OK, Our priest in our Parish said we could get married at the alter in Easter after my husband was Baptized and was Catholic, not before. That is the truth, why would I lie about it? Where would it get me? God Bless You! Nancy:wave:
Sorry, I missed that. I didn’t think you were lying. Like I said, the church is patient. People not so much. Sounds great that he’s on the journey, too. Stay the course!
 
This is the exact point: We assume the original questioner is walking with Jesus and is being guided by the Holy Spirit and still does not know the most holy course of action.

What do you think they should do to take the holiest course of action?

Anthony
and could ask a preist… instead of bringing all this personal sexual stuff into a public forum… if i was married to a person who did this, i would get :mad:
 
the Church was put here on Earth to show us what is pleasing to God and waht is not… There are some sexual acts that are NOT… and we need to know aabout that because sometimes people can’t figure this stuff out on their own…

that is not saying they are stupid… and if it is saying that… I’m admitting i am not so bright sometimes…

for instance… one could say that test tube babies is a good thing (pleases God?) becaue life is brought into the world and "good " people who couldn’t otherwise have children now can…

yet, the Church studies this kind of thing, knows the details… and is in the position to tell us that this is NOT t he way God wants procreation done…

not all people think like the Church… until they hear the Church’s position… (and even then… :rolleyes:)…

it is the same with other sexual activities…
HI Distracted, So is test tube baby’s grave matter? Is that what you mean? I dont know much about that but if God didn’t want it and He creates all life how come a man can create one like that? would it still have a soul? I dont believe in bold (sex) love making either, thing’s I wont mention. This is the first time ever in my life I was ever able to talk abouit this stuff because we were taught never to talk about (sex) to our parents or anyone. We were not allowed to say to much about anything. I was very surprised when I came to this forum and I thought it was unbelieveable, so if I seem dumb to you just maybe I am a little. You people know so much, and things I would never have thought of learning is spoken of now, I must be to far in the woods, I should get out more. Boy do I feel stupid. Nancy:o Not that I never knew some things I sure did but not to any extent you are able to talk about. I better shut up I only get in trouble when I speak. LOL Nancy
 
i rather think that this is not the case… that people are coming here to “learn” about what is appropriate… I mean, we all know that … what gays do is wrong … :eek: whether homo or hetero… other than that… why do people need advice on such matters??? :confused: :rolleyes: i think they post things like this for some other reason… could be wrong but…

i just don’t understand why people post this kind of R-rated stuff…

the main reason i came here was to complain about it…

some previous posts are pornographic to me…

call me a prude… i don’t care.
If you think content is inappropriate, that is fine. Flag the post. Let the moderators sort it out. Sometimes, such detail is necessary and for adult level discussion, appropriate. We’ve had the debate before about what level of discussion is appropriate here. The decision is that proper discussion and terms are fine within the context of the question.

If you don’t like reading this stuff. Don’t. You have a choice. If you don’t like what you see. Inform the moderator.

But now, back to the OP’s thread and away from the side discussion please.
 
The forums are a discussion place for adults-- for all topics pertaining to our faith.
Anthony, Eat the cake, and be glad you are not pregnant.;)Distracted has the right idea, this is not faith, this is between two people, man and wife. We should be able to use our own mind in our own privacy of our homes, we should not have to run to the priest with everything.Go to my priest and see what he tells you"YOU are Exonerated, go in peace.Why if I had a husband who kept telling the pastor of the church about our sex life I’d be pritty upset with him, and vise versa.😛 Nancy
 
HI Distracted, So is test tube baby’s grave matter? Is that what you mean?
well, it is bad enough to create life in ways that God didn’t original intend … but it is another to create many lives in a lab dish and then destroy some of them… but even if onlly ONE life was created this way the Chruch would be against it because the Church teaches that babies should be created through natural sexual relations in a sacramental marriage. Also, in order to create a test tube baby, the man must commit a serious sin… masturbation… to get the sperm…
i suppose I dont know much about that but if God didn’t want it and He creates all life how come a man can create one like that?
man thinks he is so smar but he cant create the sperm & egg…just put them together…
would it still have a soul?
yes
dont believe in bold (sex) love making either, thing’s I wont mention. This is the first time ever in my life I was ever able to talk abouit this stuff because we were taught never to talk about (sex) to our parents or anyone. We were not allowed to say to much about anything.
i was too but that’s not the reason i object to some of the posts here which are too graphic…

as in porno-graphic… :ouch:
 
If Sometimes, such detail is necessary and for adult level discussion, appropriate.[you don’t like reading this stuff. Don’t. You have a choice.
Do i really?? hmmm… thanks for enlightening me… :doh2:
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well, it is bad enough to create life in ways that God didn’t original intend … but it is another to create many lives in a lab dish and then destroy some of them… but even if onlly ONE life was created this way the Chruch would be against it because the Church teaches that babies should be created through natural sexual relations in a sacramental marriage. Also, in order to create a test tube baby, the man must commit a serious sin… masturbation… to get the sperm… man thinks he is so smar but he cant create the sperm & egg…just put them together… yes

i was too but that’s not the reason i object to some of the posts here which are too graphic…

as in porno-graphic… :ouch:
I agree! you are right it is pornographic, instead of watching it on tv you can come here and get all you could ever want YEP!👍 LOL Nancy
 
OK, since we have a choice, I have a question, here goes. You say that masterbation is wrong, right? OK, now when you make a baby you have a sperm that travels from point A to point B. now where do all the other sperms go? Dont they die? Distracted said Man can only put the sperm toghther with the egg, but without the egg their is no baby right? So how can it be a sin if they collect the sperm or they come out of a woman and die? A sperm is a sperm isn’t it? And how come all the woman on this forum sound like men? Love of Christ Nancy:confused:
 
Nancy - the way forums work, it is polite to begin a new thread when you have a new topic for discussion. I would suggest you ask your above question over in the Moral Theology forum.
 
Nancy - the way forums work, it is polite to begin a new thread when you have a new topic for discussion. I would suggest you ask your above question over in the Moral Theology forum.
Karge, this subject has been mentioned on this thread and not by me so why dont you go through the thread and find out why I asked this question OK? i asked bacause it just didn’t come out of the air. this is no new topic when ever you can’t answer a question you get defensive. As far as being polite i put it as it was put on this thread. read it and weep i’m not and i’m not appoligizing to you or anyone. All i have done since i came back to the church is appoligize and i’m not going there any more. Don’t try to give me a guilt trip that is over for me, after being on this thread. I am as Polite as you are.🙂
 
You sound very hostile.

The Catechism is available online for you to read at your own pace.

Here is the section on artificial insemination:

scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a6.htm#2376

2376 Techniques that entail the dissociation of husband and wife, by the intrusion of a person other than the couple (donation of sperm or ovum, surrogate uterus), are gravely immoral. These techniques (heterologous artificial insemination and fertilization) infringe the child’s right to be born of a father and mother known to him and bound to each other by marriage. They betray the spouses’ "right to become a father and a mother only through each other."167

2377 Techniques involving only the married couple (homologous artificial insemination and fertilization) are perhaps less reprehensible, yet remain morally unacceptable. They dissociate the sexual act from the procreative act. The act which brings the child into existence is no longer an act by which two persons give themselves to one another, but one that "entrusts the life and identity of the embryo into the power of doctors and biologists and establishes the domination of technology over the origin and destiny of the human person. Such a relationship of domination is in itself contrary to the dignity and equality that must be common to parents and children."168

"Under the moral aspect procreation is deprived of its proper perfection when it is not willed as the fruit of the conjugal act, that is to say, of the specific act of the spouses’ union . . . . Only respect for the link between the meanings of the conjugal act and respect for the unity of the human being make possible procreation in conformity with the dignity of the person."169

2378 A child is not something *owed *to one, but is a gift. The “supreme gift of marriage” is a human person. A child may not be considered a piece of property, an idea to which an alleged “right to a child” would lead. In this area, only the child possesses genuine rights: the right “to be the fruit of the specific act of the conjugal love of his parents,” and "the right to be respected as a person from the moment of his conception."170
 
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