I love riding bikes; I love worshiping God more than riding bikes. I love Mary, but I love God more than anyone… Much, much more than anyone, anything, ever.I don’t quite understand the concept of discussing love as being something that can be measured. Love isn’t like a currency. In which you only have a set amount of love dollars to give. For my older brother I love him with 10 love dollars but for my younger brother I love him more with 20 love dollars. Therefore I love my younger brother twice as much as my older brother. However I also have 10 love dollars for my cousin therfore I love my older brother and my cousin equally. Doesn’t this sound ludicrous? To me it sounds ludicrous to ask someone if they love Mary more than or equally to God.
Love is an immeasurable emotion. It’s silly to discuss it as something that can be measured using terms such as I love someone more than, less than or equal too.
I have an immeasurable love for my son. I express my love for him as a mother loves her child.
I have an immeasurable love for my husband. I express that love for him as a wife loves her husband.
Do you see where I’m going here? We don’t love anybody more, less, or equal to. My love is immeasurable and is not finite. It is just expressed differently according to the relationship. It would be in appropriate for me to express my love for my husband as if he were my son.
Likewise my love for Our blessed mother and our God is immeasurable. So try not to discuss our Catholic love for our mother as being greater than or equal to God. The concept is confusing to me.
I have an immeasurable amount of love for our blessed mother. I love her as my own mother. That is the nature of my relationship with her.
I have an immeasurable amount of love for God. I love him as my God. I love him as my father, creator, savior. My love for God is not the same as it is for my blessed mother or any other relationship that I have or expressed the same way as in my other relationships. …I adore and worship him.
I just assume Catholics love God more than anything or anyone.I don’t know how to put it to you more clearly.
I owe obedience only to God the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit.
Therefore I try to do as God said to do because He is God-love
everyone. He never told me to love this one more or this
one less. He said love Him with all my heart and my
neighbor as myself.
I think He made Himself very clear and I don’t understand
why this is so difficult for people.
I also don’t understand what you mean by analogy.
It is not analogy- it is reality. God is my Father, Jesus
my brother and Mary my Mother. Where is the “analogy”?
You keep asking which I love more? Love the same?
Love the less? Love differently?
Makes no sense.
So how much less do you love Mary than you love GodI love riding bikes; I love worshiping God more than riding bikes. I love Mary, but I love God more than anyone… Much, much more than anyone, anything, ever.
Matthew 10:37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
You should read the Book of Numbers Chapter 30 and attempt to understand the seriousness of Vows of chastity made unto the Lord … a young girl could make a vow while still in her father’s house - unless he countermanded that vow immediately - the vow stood and compelling her to break it made her Father guilty of the sin … similarly if a wife made that vow unto the Lord - her husband must immediately countermand it or be bound to the vow or be guilty of the sin of breaking a vow unto the Lord ……Looking back now,it is not so much a question of was I " worshiping Mary" but was I honouring that Mary revealed in the word of God ,as I would now claim.
According to Paul’s instruction for the married wife is that she is to be in submission to “her own husband” and ( 1Cor11:3 ) " the head of the woman is the man".
This I believe,is the order In Scripture, my former beliefs seems to me to make Mary the head of the man( Joseph).If not why does not Joseph receive the credit ( for example) for Mary being ever virgin because as head of the house : the final decision would have been his?In any case would not Mary who was so faithful to" the " Word of God"( or Jesus her Son) be faithful in the decision of Joseph if it was that of the marriage bed ; which according to Paul ,“is undefiled”?
It’s hard to say really. To me God is so amazing, so perfect, so above and worthy of all love and adoration that everything else in His presence is extremely small. I love everything and everyone far less than I could ever love God. But I still love everyone very very much, I just love God in a way that can’t be explained. He’s perfect, He’s my only hope in life, He’s everything to me and I’m nothing without Him.So how much less do you love Mary than you love God
I think it’s best to do what He said in BOTH the OldI love riding bikes; I love worshiping God more than riding bikes. I love Mary, but I love God more than anyone… Much, much more than anyone, anything, ever.
Matthew 10:37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
I’m still extremely confused. Can you please explain to me how love is measuredIt’s hard to say really. To me God is so amazing, so perfect, so above and worthy of all love and adoration that everything else in His presence is extremely small. I love everything and everyone far less than I could ever love God. But I still love everyone very very much, I just love God in a way that can’t be explained. He’s perfect, He’s my only hope in life, He’s everything to me and I’m nothing without Him.
It’s not like by loving God with all my heart soul and strength that I’m not loving my neighbor as myself as well. But I certainly love God in a way that is unexplainable; after all, He controls my entire life. He loves me in a way that no other can, He’s perfect.I think it’s best to do what He said in BOTH the Old
and New.
He never said give this big bit to one and a tiny morsel
to another. He said " If you love me, keep my word".
It’s all very well to claim love and worship of Him but
what good is it if you ignore His Word in the so-called
Golden Rule?
Well, people often love things more than other things. For example, I love my fiance more than my cat but I love my God more than my fiance.I’m still extremely confused. Can you please explain to me how love is measured
I still don’t understand this. How much less do you love your cat than you love your fiance. 1/3rd less? How do you measure your love, how do you limit your love for your fiance? and how do you express your love as if you only have a limited amount of love to give.Well, people often love things more than other things. For example, I love my fiance more than my cat but I love my God more than my fiance.
If I had to scale it, I would probably use a small percentage in comparison from my cat to God. I love God so much that perhaps my cat would be at a 0.0000001% in comparison? I think Jesus Himself had love for certain things over other things. For example:I still don’t understand this. How much less do you love your cat than you love your fiance. 1/3rd less? How do you measure your love, how do you limit your love for your fiance? and how do you express your love as if you only have a limited amount of love to give.
Dronald you’ve shown me that love is finite and is something that can be measured. Can you give me the mathematical equation that you used so I can be sure that I don’t love my dog more than my God. I want to be sure that God has 51% of my love. My family 48.% of my love. And I guess our blessed mother can have 0.5%. And strangers can have the other 0.5%. I Just want to limit my love for everyone to be sure that everyone receives the appropriate amount of love. Being how love is so limited and concrete and measurable.If I had to scale it, I would probably use a small percentage in comparison from my cat to God. I love God so much that perhaps my cat would be at a 0.0000001% in comparison? I think Jesus Himself had love for certain things over other things. For example:
Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. "
If I had to put money on it, Jesus loves us more than He loves money; and we’re told we can’t love both.
I’m glad I could help you with this, as I understand it can be confusing how one could love God more than hamsters or something.
You are being disingenuous. God never asked youIf I had to scale it, I would probably use a small percentage in comparison from my cat to God. I love God so much that perhaps my cat would be at a 0.0000001% in comparison? I think Jesus Himself had love for certain things over other things. For example:
Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. "
If I had to put money on it, Jesus loves us more than He loves money; and we’re told we can’t love both.
I’m glad I could help you with this, as I understand it can be confusing how one could love God more than hamsters or something.
Glad I could help.Dronald you’ve shown me that love is finite and is something that can be measured. Can you give me the mathematical equation that you used so I can be sure that I don’t love my dog more than my God. I want to be sure that God has 51% of my love. My family 48.% of my love. And I guess our blessed mother can have 0.5%. And strangers can have the other 0.5%. I Just want to limit my love for everyone to be sure that everyone receives the appropriate amount of love. Being how love is so limited and concrete and measurable.
But were we not also commanded to love God above all? Every person, thing… anything? I certainly do.You are being disingenuous. God never asked you
to lOve your cat hamster or dirt bike.
He said Love Him with everything you’ve got and your
neighbor as yourself.
Can you lay your life down for your fiancé or does
that only go to God?
Did He not also say:But were we not also commanded to love God above all? Every person, thing… anything? I certainly do.
The greatest act of love one can show for ones friends is to lay down ones life for ones friends. Likewise the same can be applied to God, as many have laid down their lives for God. If I was capable of laying my life down for my fiancé I would want to have the same capability for my God.Did He not also say:
No greater love man has than this, that a man
lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13.
So I ask you again- can you love your fiancé that
much or do you reserve that for God alone as well?
That’s not what I asked you. What I asked you is ifThe greatest act of love one can show for ones friends is to lay down ones life for ones friends. Likewise the same can be applied to God, as many have laid down their lives for God. If I was capable of laying my life down for my fiancé I would want to have the same capability for my God.
What do you make of this:
Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.
I would lay down my life for either. And assuming the greatest act of love towards God is not laying down ones life for God, rather that is a command reserved only for men then it still doesn’t change that I love God more than anyone else. The greatest act of love towards a friend does not change that I love God more than my brothers. Now, onto my question.That’s not what I asked you. What I asked you is if
as you claim you cannot love your fiancé as much as you
love God, can you lay down your life for them or
do you reserve that greatest act of love only for your
God?