Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe fired

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He is not the first to be fired because of lying under oath. I think this action is consistent as there were precedents before him
Hmmm
Have the details of the case been revealed?
BTW, the action appears to have been highly accelerated as compared to other such investigations.
 
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Wow, so you’re just envious. Okay, got it.
Why would you think that? Noting that someone has it easy doesn’t mean you are jealous or even envious. I like sleeping well at night more than money.
Frankly, you sound very much as if you are extremely resentful that you did not have the ability to plan your employment and subsequent retirement so that you have a pension.
Most people don’t have pensions these days. That is just a fact. Actually I used to work for a company that had a pension which they reneged on.
Yeah, this one should have come with a keyboard alert so we wouldn’t spit coffee all over the keyboard and monitor!
Why? I’m not the only one who criticizes the FBI or has considered it something which should be ended. I think almost everyone agrees under Hoover it was a real problem and a sort of shadow government. Why would anyone think a more powerful modern FBI would be less so?
 
Yes this. and what people don’t seem to be getting here is as stated before, He was fired on the recommendation of the F.B.I’s own Office of Personal Responsibility. (OPR)
We do not know all the facts or why, but if they recommended it, perhaps they had good reason.
The left is just fine with those two you mentioned being prosecuted and going to jail, on the lack of evidence that we the public currently have now.
 
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Most people don’t have pensions these days. That is just a fact. Actually I used to work for a company that had a pension which they reneged on.
My husband’s education was in computer science, and in the 1970’s he was recruited by a high tech company out of the Navy. When he was 40, he decided to make an employment change that would allow him more family time. He actually took a humble, much, much lower paying job in the mailroom of a State agency just to get his “foot in the door.” He was quickly promoted out of the mailroom, and subsequently worked his way through a number of positions until over time he became the manager of a large State network.

After 25 years, he retired with a pension and healthcare for both of us. It wasn’t an accident nor some gift from the government; in fact he sacrificed his ambition so that he could be present for our family. His lifetime earnings were much less than he could have earned in the private sector even as his work for the State benefited businesses throughout CA.

The firing of Mr. McCabe is a travesty and yet another Trump affront to American values. Because you were deprived of your private sector pension, I would expect that you would be able to better understand this injustice.
 
I worked for a company which quit vesting upon a takeover but they did it for everyone. They no doubt would have been sued had they discriminated.
 
The left is just fine with those two you mentioned being prosecuted and going to jail, on the lack of evidence that we the public currently have now.
I am not sure that the ™left is just fine with. But the post that your are reposding to as addressed to me, and my answer was clear:
I am not only fine with, but would prefer that charges be brought against McCabe if there were evidence of criminal misconduct. Moreover, I pointed out the lack of action of Justice on the matter of Sessions and Kushner to undercut the suggestion that was made that the Justice seizes on errors and omission to “get” people.

So whatever it is that you feel comfortable saying on behalf of the ™left, it is not what I think, as I had already made clear.
 
After 25 years, he retired with a pension and healthcare for both of us. It wasn’t an accident nor some gift from the government; in fact he sacrificed his ambition so that he could be present for our family. His lifetime earnings were much less than he could have earned in the private sector even as his work for the State benefited businesses throughout CA.
You have your experiences and I have mine. But in addition to mine we have the objective fact that government workers make more than private sector workers, have great benefits, and actually get a pension. Additionally there is little risk of being fired for poor work or even incompetence by the government.

A short trip to both my local post office and UPS store is enough to demonstrate the difference in quality of work. That isn’t to say that some individuals might not work hard. But they seem to be the exception. And that is ignoring the question of whether the work is even useful in the first place.
 
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You have your experiences and I have mine. But in addition to mine we have the objective fact that government workers make more than private sector workers, have great benefits, and actually get a pension. Additionally there is little risk of being fired for poor work or even incompetence by the government.

What you have is a bunch of meaningless generalizations and your own emotional resentment.
 
Well, that’s good. Perhaps I shouldn’t have added that last part.
I’ve been fighting friends who seem to think Trump fired him.
Anyway, I was just trying to point out that the FBI’s own OPR recommended to Sessions he be fired, and so far we don’t know what they know. It must be something serious I would think.
 
Again, as I understand it, if some Democrat senator or congressperson hires McCabe for a week in an official capacity as an aide or something, McCabe will get his pension.

Now, let’s see which one of them is sufficiently convinced of McCabe’s innocence to do it before the whole basis for his firing is known.
 
The independent office of professional responsibility recommended McCabe to be fired. These were McCabes own colleagues. He’s a dirty cop and will lose more than his pension.

Peter Strzok, note to self:

Don’t leave 3000 pages of self incriminating text messages to mistress next time you try to stage coup.
 
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You have your experiences and I have mine. But in addition to mine we have the objective fact that government workers make more than private sector workers, have great benefits, and actually get a pension. Additionally there is little risk of being fired for poor work or even incompetence by the government.
However, the CBO cautioned that its estimates “do not show precisely what federal workers would earn if they were employed in a comparable position in the private sector” and that the differences “could be larger or smaller” depending on traits the study did not attempt to measure, such as job security. Further, it said, the value of benefits is “much more uncertain” than data on wages, largely because of the difficulty of projecting the future value of retirement benefits.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...average-cbo-concludes/?utm_term=.1b3b438ee677
 
What you have is a bunch of meaningless generalizations and your own emotional resentment.
What exactly do you imagine I resent? And I think common experience that corresponds to expectations isn’t meaningless.
 
Exactly what I expect based on experience. Less skilled workers make out like kings. More skilled workers make less in return for having a much easier job. All make out like kings in retirement and benefits. And all have far less fear of ever being fired. They especially don’t have to worry about being fired because their position is being eliminated. The government only ever grows.
 
Now, let’s see which one of them is sufficiently convinced of McCabe’s innocence to do it before the whole basis for his firing is known.

Also there’s a lot of confusion about McCabe’s pension. He’s earned his full pension and will receive it when he turns 57. What he’s missing out on is an enhancement for federal law enforcement officers that allow them to retire early at age 50. If the firing stands and a temporary hiring by a member of Congress doesn’t pass muster he’ll miss out on about $400k in pension payments over the next seven years.

In other news:

Andrew McCabe, formerly the deputy director of the FBI, has lawyered up. Michael Bromwich of the Bromwich Group confirmed to The Daily Beast that he is representing McCabe for the purposes of the matter that led to his firing.

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Bromwich, who has been representing McCabe for several weeks, was formerly the inspector general of the Justice Department.
And Bromwich’s statement:

http://www.bromwichgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Bromwich-statement.pdf

haha goodnight irene
 
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From Bromwich’s statement:
It should make all federal government employees, who continue to work in an Administration that insults, debases, and abuses them, shudder in the knowledge that they could be next.
Exactly. I don’t think this will turn out to have been a good move for President Trump.
 
Bromwich represents McCabe. Did you think maybe he would say something different from this? And, of course, he knows his audience. Lot cheaper and better advertising than the back of the phone book.

And it’s interesting, too, that Bromwich is out there practicing law in his own group. McCabe knows all the ins and outs of the FBI and lots of federal charges. He isn’t going to be missing any meals in the future either.
 
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