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Theo520
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many of them did reach the press though. All I saw were his drinking buddies say he couldn’t have had perfect memory when they saw him hammered. The expressly did not say he was assaulting women after his sixth beer.
Former Justice John Paul Stevens suggests Kavanaugh should not sit on Supreme Court
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Victoria33
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True. And Dr. Ford looked clearly politically motivated.
And totally lacked credibility, yes, I’ sure some say she had credibility. I didn’t see it.
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The standard I presented. Extensive multiple investigations, open hearings to hear the parties.
With no corroborating evidence, a reasonable and appropriate decision
That would be the suggestion to the accuser and attorney, because those who have complained about the intensity of the investigation seem to think the nominee should be assumed guilty without evidence.
If you want him shown to be guilty, that is where they must go. Otherwise, he is innocent.
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dvdjs
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You presented the call the MD police standard. Are you withdrawing that standard?
No. If people want a something beyond the extensive FBI investigation, which is not designed to investigate criminal charges, they need needcto file a complaint. Without it, we have a presumption of innocence, one that is not questioned at all br the evidence provided.JonNC:
You presented the call the MD police standard. Are you withdrawing that standard?
My point was the 7th FBI investigation was unnecessary.
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dvdjs
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It was have been pointless but there was a need. After the testimony there were doubts about Kavanugh. The astute move was to have a supplemental investigation that was limited in scope and duration. And a secret report out that leaked information about its favorability for Kavanuagh. It bought some time to make a coutner attack against accusers and gave cover to wavering Republicans.
Not doubts based on evidence, because there was / is no evidence.
It did serve its purpose.
No counter attack was waged by the committee. They treated her with respect and deference. What did was confirm what was already known: no evidence. None.
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Jeanne_S
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I have to wonder if a Monica McClain CBF bff and FBI agent ,didn’t have a hand in cooking up this entire specious allegation.Now that we know how corrupt the FBI is,this makes perfect sense
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Theo520
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She was the only friend or family member who joined her in the hearing if I recall.
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Jeanne_S
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Yes this is true.I guess they weren’t counting on the fact that Leland Keyser might not be a willing participant in this shameful scam.Truth willed out!
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Theo520
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I wonder if there will be blowback on her and Patrick Smyth.
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Ana_v
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The interviewees in the FBI supplemental investigation should have included the people that Ford named as the friends who she confided in about the assault. To say there is “no evidence” is patently false.
If what you want to say is “there is no evidence that is satisfactory to me”, then say that.
There has been no direct or first-hand evidence presented by Ford, but whether you like it or not, past confessions to a other people about the alleged assault does count toward evidence in favor of (not against) her testimony. Remember, her testimony does NOT simply consist of the core allegation (sexual assault by Kavanaugh) but other details about her life, including circumstantial details.
Thus, many other of Ford’s claims given during her testimony could have been investigated.
Was she really a member or frequenter of the Columbia Country Club in her teens? Investigate.
Who were Ford’s closest friends when she was 15 / durong her sophmore year in high school? Investigate.
What can those friends tell us about Ford and any social events she went to?Investigate.
Do they recall any time in 1982 when Ford was acting noticeably different or affected by something? Investigate.
Did Mark Judge really work at the supermarket Ford says he did around the time she says she did 1982?
Investigate.
Did Ford and Kavanaugh have mutual friends/social links? Investigate.
Was there ANY party or social gathering in which Kavanaugh and Ford were both present? INVESTIGATE.
That last one could easily be investigated by opening up the interviews to former classmates and acquaintances.
Not only Ford’s former classmates and acquaintances, but also Kavanaugh’s. Especially those who were willing and offering to come forward (they could provide other leads).
What we do know is that there are three unknown/uidentifies people who the FBI interviewed.
If what you want to say is “there is no evidence that is satisfactory to me”, then say that.
There has been no direct or first-hand evidence presented by Ford, but whether you like it or not, past confessions to a other people about the alleged assault does count toward evidence in favor of (not against) her testimony. Remember, her testimony does NOT simply consist of the core allegation (sexual assault by Kavanaugh) but other details about her life, including circumstantial details.
Thus, many other of Ford’s claims given during her testimony could have been investigated.
Was she really a member or frequenter of the Columbia Country Club in her teens? Investigate.
Who were Ford’s closest friends when she was 15 / durong her sophmore year in high school? Investigate.
What can those friends tell us about Ford and any social events she went to?Investigate.
Do they recall any time in 1982 when Ford was acting noticeably different or affected by something? Investigate.
Did Mark Judge really work at the supermarket Ford says he did around the time she says she did 1982?
Investigate.
Did Ford and Kavanaugh have mutual friends/social links? Investigate.
Was there ANY party or social gathering in which Kavanaugh and Ford were both present? INVESTIGATE.
That last one could easily be investigated by opening up the interviews to former classmates and acquaintances.
Not only Ford’s former classmates and acquaintances, but also Kavanaugh’s. Especially those who were willing and offering to come forward (they could provide other leads).
What we do know is that there are three unknown/uidentifies people who the FBI interviewed.
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Theo520
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Lots of details to chew on for months there!
None of it would shed any light on the 30+ yr old groping allegation
None of it would shed any light on the 30+ yr old groping allegation
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Theo520
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this just in, could change everything.
FBI discover ice in Kavanaugh’s kitchen, more stashed in garage freezer. The footage shows agents carrying boxes with evidence, each ice cube thoroughly labeled and documented.
FBI discover ice in Kavanaugh’s kitchen, more stashed in garage freezer. The footage shows agents carrying boxes with evidence, each ice cube thoroughly labeled and documented.
I think we should abolish ICE.
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ProVobis
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There’s no commandment against gloating, I guess.
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Theo520
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Wouldn’t that be Pride?
However, I find some humor on the recent arguments helps put them in their proper perspective.
A student threw some ice in a bar ? ! ? ! ? That never should have gotten any coverage. The people pushing such bad character attacks should reflect a bit.
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Ridgerunner
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I don’t think the analogy really works, but let’s think about it a little more. If one was interviewing another person for a job, the very last person the prospective employer would listen to about the interviewee would be someone who coveted that same job.
So the Repub senators were supposed to listen to the uncorroborated allegations of the Dems?
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