Fort Myers woman defies church to be ordained Roman Catholic priest

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Funny! Love stories like this. Proves how ignorant, arrogant some human beings are!
Seems to me she lost her faith in the scriptures. Assured, she will not get favor from the Catholic Church. I can’t believe she’d make it one single day in the homeless camps gathering up drunks during a snip freeze heading below 0 degrees. For me, I’m happy to stay inside and pastor those who come through the door…frozen or not. :getholy:
 
I don’t get it. How will an ordination in a Lutheran Church convey Holy Orders upon her? Who is officiating? I don’t get the process. I guess I could have my mother ordinate me in her kitchen and call myself a priest too.

Nonsense.
I don’t get it either. My local United Church of Christ ecclesial community’s pastor told me she was Catholic but became a UCC pastor after she discerned a calling to serve as a pastor of a church. And of course the Church doesn’t believe that so she went into the UCC. But I know she doesn’t call herself a Catholic priest.
 
I don’t believe this “movement” is very significant. It’s best to simply not give it any attention but to simply contact local news or papers if they provide incorrect information regarding such “ordinations”.

Most, or all of these women, are older so just give it time- it’ll pass away.
 
Finally, the time comes when people recognize greatness.

Need a new job? I have Viceroy open. I just need you to assemble a legion or two first.
I’ll manage to raggle up a few, sure!
I don’t believe this “movement” is very significant. It’s best to simply not give it any attention but to simply contact local news or papers if they provide incorrect information regarding such “ordinations”.

Most, or all of these women, are older so just give it time- it’ll pass away.
My thoughts exactly, though you’d be surprised how many younger people are becoming involved with this movement…a whole 11! One is a man as well!
Just click here if your dare. Please make sure your food is properly and fully digested***. ***Possible side effects could include but are not limited to: heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, liturgical craziness, nightmares about puppets, sudden ringing in ears caused by ordination tambourines, and laugh attack. Please click at your own risk.
 
I’ll manage to raggle up a few, sure!

My thoughts exactly, though you’d be surprised how many younger people are becoming involved with this movement…a whole 11! One is a man as well!
Just click here if your dare. Please make sure your food is properly and fully digested***. ***Possible side effects could include but are not limited to: heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, liturgical craziness, nightmares about puppets, sudden ringing in ears caused by ordination tambourines, and laugh attack. Please click at your own risk.
Are the balloons a rendering of the three kings of Epiphany? 🤓
 
I defied mother nature by becoming a rabbit.:rolleyes:
No seriously. Don’t they realise that not even the pope himself could ordain a woman?
The thing is that many priests don’t really believe that. Last week on our local CBC radio station a priest who is Pastor and serves two parishes in the Archdiocese made it clear that he disagrees with the decision to not ordain women; not once did he make it clear that we are, as Catholics, bound to believe that the Church cannot ordain women. You can hear his answers to questions here:
cbc.ca/radionoonnl/2012/01/12/radio-noon—thursday-january-12-2012/

click on the podcast below the word “Crosstalk”
 
The thing is that many priests don’t really believe that. Last week on our local CBC radio station a priest who is Pastor and serves two parishes in the Archdiocese made it clear that he disagrees with the decision to not ordain women; not once did he make it clear that we are, as Catholics, bound to believe that the Church cannot ordain women. You can hear his answers to questions here:
cbc.ca/radionoonnl/2012/01/12/radio-noon—thursday-january-12-2012/

click on the podcast below the word “Crosstalk”
Oh yes, this Priest has done this before. This is not the first time.
 
Oh yes, this Priest has done this before. This is not the first time.
I just realized who this priest is. I knew I’d heard his name before but now I remember him being reprimanded by the former Bishop for his comments to his parishes about same-sex marriage.
 
I just realized who this priest is. I knew I’d heard his name before but now I remember him being reprimanded by the former Bishop for his comments to his parishes about same-sex marriage.
Yep! The very same one.
 
I defied mother nature by becoming a rabbit.:rolleyes:
No seriously. Don’t they realise that not even the pope himself could ordain a woman?
What if the Holy Spirit were to ever tell a Pope that times and customs are not what they were in the era Christ was on earth when only men would have been considered as apostles, and He was now going to allow women?
 
What if the Holy Spirit were to ever tell a Pope that times and customs are not what they were in the era Christ was on earth when only men would have been considered as apostles, and He was now going to allow women?
Jesus wasn’t afraid to break societal customs when they went against God’s will. People tried to pummel Him to death with rocks because of what He preached, and he eventually was crucified. If the right thing to do were to have women apostles, do you honestly think that Roman customs would have stopped Him? I doubt it.

Jesus assuredly chose all male Apostles for a good reason, and I don’t think we should question His judgment.
 
What if the Holy Spirit were to ever tell a Pope that times and customs are not what they were in the era Christ was on earth when only men would have been considered as apostles, and He was now going to allow women?
This makes no sense to me - will God now defy His own Church which is led by the Spirit? It is not the pope or the patriarchal Church which does not allow women to become priests and the ministry itself is not a function . Christ chose only men and if a bishop ordains a woman, it is simply both illicit and invalid.
 
What if the Holy Spirit were to ever tell a Pope that times and customs are not what they were in the era Christ was on earth when only men would have been considered as apostles, and He was now going to allow women?
What if the Holy Spirit were to ever tell a Pope to abandon Christ? What if the Holy Spirit were to ever tell a Pope to blaspheme? 'What if’s are nice and dandy, but just about anything ridiculous can be a ‘what if’. :rolleyes:

If God will provide the Church with a revelation, He will do so with the message He intends, at a time of His choosing. We should not be trying to anticipate what we think He will say. If we could do that, we probably don’t need God to direct us then.

Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition are our guide, not Day Dreaming.
 
This makes no sense to me - will God now defy His own Church which is led by the Spirit? It is not the pope or the patriarchal Church which does not allow women to become priests and the ministry itself is not a function . Christ chose only men and if a bishop ordains a woman, it is simply both illicit and invalid.
No. God leads His Church. And of course today it is invalid in the Catholic Church.
 
Jesus wasn’t afraid to break societal customs when they went against God’s will. People tried to pummel Him to death with rocks because of what He preached, and he eventually was crucified. If the right thing to do were to have women apostles, do you honestly think that Roman customs would have stopped Him? I doubt it.

Jesus assuredly chose all male Apostles for a good reason, and I don’t think we should question His judgment.
And yet Scripture tells us the custom was for women not to speak in churches but I thank God that one has been changed even in the Catholic Church. Women are often speaking in Catholic churches I’ve attended. Not only in the pews but for instance also by being lectors and ministers of Holy Communion.
 
What if the Holy Spirit were to ever tell a Pope that times and customs are not what they were in the era Christ was on earth when only men would have been considered as apostles, and He was now going to allow women?
Then the Pope would have had a vision of a demon. The Holy Spirit guides the Church, and isn’t about to mislead it. The Church does not ordain women, and the only women who want ordination either do not understand theology, or are too arrogant to submit to it.
 
…times and customs are not what they were in the era Christ was on earth when only men would have been considered as apostles, and He was now going to allow women?
Christ was put to death for violating societal customs. Women as apostles would probably not have been a deal breaker for Him or His followers who remained after the Crucifixion.
 
No. God leads His Church. And of course today it is invalid in the Catholic Church.
correct… and God doesn’t change His mind. Christ taught his disciples well and if women were to be priests, there would have been women priest among the Apostles. His own mother would have been most worthy to be the first.
 
What if the Holy Spirit were to ever tell a Pope that times and customs are not what they were in the era Christ was on earth when only men would have been considered as apostles, and He was now going to allow women?
Does God change?
 
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