Fortune telling

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(this isn’t something I’ve done or planned on doing, just a thought I was having)

Is it really immoral to go see a fortune teller or something similar if you don’t have the slightest belief that what’s going on is real?

I mean don’t get me wrong, I can clearly see the moral issue if you’re going there with the thought “wow I can’t wait for this person to use some supernatural power that doesn’t come from God”, thats essentially idol worship.

But lets say you went in just to be entertained, or to get a kick because you knew it was all a scam. I don’t see how that’s morally different from paying to go through a haunted house, which claims to be full of demons or monsters. I mean without the belief that this person sitting in front of a crystal ball has the power to do something I can’t do, I’m essentially paying to observe someone playing D&D.

Is there something about that which would make it immoral/sinful?
 
I recently met someone at the mall who told me, ‘you cant go back.’ This was a stranger who approached me, and also told me that i will be leaving my job soon.
Then i had a ’ healer,’ non denominational tell me i needed healing and gave me several catholic medals.

I attract weirdos. Stay away from fortune tellers. They are experts on reading people. And its against catholic teaching.
 
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There is a reason they are in one of the deepest layers on hell in Dante’s Inferno and their punishment is their heads are attached to their torso backwards so they can’t see where they’re walking.
 
yeah no fortune telling are frauds, but some are in the ocult you know using “magic” and sacrifices.
 
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It was mentioned in a previous thread that if playing DnD was okay for catholics and the answer was that Its just a board game, fortune telling isnt a game. Even if you dont take it seriously, the objective isnt a game and aint good for us catholics.
 
all forms of divinity are ALL BAD

the issue is that God told us not to do this. So we either choose to obey God or disregard God and just do what we want.
 
I think you mean “divination”. I’m pretty sure the divinity of God is a very good thing. 😉
 
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I think you mean “divination”. I’m pretty sure the divinity of God is a very good thing.
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I think you know what I meant. WE are not talking about the Divine nature of God. So as not to confuse people. 🙂
 
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Bad idea. Always and everywhere.

Unless you enjoy the company of demons.
 
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Stay away the vast majority of them are egomaniacal frauds or just money grubbers. And just in case a small percentage of them aren’t frauds those are dangerous. Though I believe they are all frauds and cynical money grubbers.
 
Seeing a fortune teller is placing yourself into communion with the devil.
 
Just for the fun of it, I’ve always wanted to go to a soothsayer and ask “When is the 2nd coming of Christ?” and see how they would react. But I never dared to, fearing that I might get killed within no time. 🤣🤣🤣
 
Yes what would make it immoral and sinful is that God has told us not to do it and that it is playing with the devil. The devil does not require you to believe in him or his antics to mess with you. Don’t put yourself in that position. Also if the person is doing something harmless, it is not nice to make fun of someone. Pray for them instead and if you have the opportunity speak to them kindly about another way of earning a living then do so, but don’t go to gawp at them. That is unkind.
If you want to be entertained, go to the cinema with a friend (I hear Love and Mercy - the movie about St Faustina is out on the 18 Nov - well in the UK anyway) or play a game with someone or read a book, I am sure you know better ways to entertain yourself than at another’s expense.
 
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nfinke said:
(this isn’t something I’ve done or planned on doing, just a thought I was having)

Is it really immoral to go see a fortune teller or something similar if you don’t have the slightest belief that what’s going on is real?

I mean don’t get me wrong, I can clearly see the moral issue if you’re going there with the thought “wow I can’t wait for this person to use some supernatural power that doesn’t come from God”, thats essentially idol worship.

But lets say you went in just to be entertained, or to get a kick because you knew it was all a scam. I don’t see how that’s morally different from paying to go through a haunted house, which claims to be full of demons or monsters. I mean without the belief that this person sitting in front of a crystal ball has the power to do something I can’t do, I’m essentially paying to observe someone playing D&D.

Is there something about that which would make it immoral/sinful?
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Divination is evil because the person is seeking for powers other than God to reveal the future or obtain some other benefit supernaturally. God is our Father and we can trust him to take care of these things. It’s the equivalent of a child ignoring their parents and instead listening to a strange man in a van down the street.

Hypothetically, as far as going to a fortune teller for kicks and giggles, I think this would be uncharitable. In one respect, the person involved in the fortune telling business is leading people astray and doing something that abases the dignity of their own nature. So it’s not good to make light on that situation when the fortune teller is a human being with infinite value and dignity, and then the sad and sinful profession they are in is used for fleeting amusement by somebody who doesn’t believe in it but is bored. You should be praying for them and hoping for their eternal happiness.
 
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the person involved in the fortune telling business is leading people astray and doing something that abases the dignity of their own nature.
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Ah I never thought about it from that angle. Almost like paying a stripper or something if you look at it like that.

Like I said it’s not something I was thinking about doing. I was just wondering about the morality of such a thing.
 
When you go to the Delta Gamma Haunted House, no one expects there to be real monsters. The people dressing up and making noises do not believe they are real monsters. It is like going to a play, both the audience and the actors understand that this is theatre, play-acting.

When you seek a fortune teller, while you may not believe in it, 99.999999% of the other patrons DO believe they are getting knowledge that is occult (hidden). The fortune teller, while there are frauds who take advantage of gullible people, there are just as many who truly seek to get knowledge that is occult (hidden).

If soothsayers were all fake, the Catechism would not warn us against them.
 
I don’t believe it is possible for one person to tell another person’s fortune.
So, I do not understand why anyone would listen to a so-called “fortune teller.”
 
nfinke said:
Is it really immoral to go see a fortune teller or something similar if you don’t have the slightest belief that what’s going on is real?
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I’m not sure it’s immoral, but there are better ways to spend your money. Basically, it’s like throwing 25$ down the drain.
 
Agreed. In my pre-Catholic days, I “dabbled” in this crap. Tarot cards, fortune telling, astrology, and palm reading are all deliberately vague in a way that sounds convincing but really could apply to anybody.

“People see your happy-go-lucky side, but there’s an inner you that you don’t show others.” (No @#$%$! That’s everybody!)

“You’re going to face some financial struggles in your future.” (Um, you and everyone else! Except maybe Jeff Bezos . . . )

Taurus, don’t let others take advantage of you today. (But if you’re any of the other eleven signs, by all means be a doormat :roll_eyes:).
 
Exactly. It’s vague, it’s open to interpretation, and people will only see what they want to see. Tragically, I know of people who swear by these things.
 
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