Fr. Corapi Responds to Some of His Order's Charges

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Personanongrata said:
He sounds like a male version of Sarah Palin -
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I haven’t posted on this thread for several days, but am still subscribed to it so I receive all the recent posts in digest format. I had to respond when I saw the above post.
First of all, not everyone feels the way you do about Sarah Palin. Secondly, if you or anyone insists on bringing politics into this discussion, it is going to get incredibly ugly. Finally, discussion of Sarah Palin or any other political figure is completely OFF TOPIC anyway!
 
New post on the BSD website theblacksheepdog.us/

Entitled: “Abortion: The Truth and the Hope”, advertising a new series, soon to be available to buy over the internet.

The only thing I’m noticing in the outline of the talk is that it is not overtly religious, here is the quoted outline:
"1. The Dark Origins of Abortion
  1. Code: 
    Roe vs. Wade: What Were They Thinking?
  2. Code: 
    The Social and Political Fallout of Abortion
  3. Code: 
    Hope for the Future: Is There Any?"
I can’t criticise what I haven’t seen or heard obviously, but it is sad to see the absence of any Christocentric message in this brief post to advertise the series. It’s like looking at a jigsaw which has the most important piece of it missing.
 
debraran said:
Where did it say he was going deaf? I heard he had migaines but not that.

I don’t think beyond sellling his book, this will go much futher. If he’s ill, he wont get better without help, The change in appearance was a big deal to me and I feel he is in need of good friends, not friends who want a “pal”, a guy with money to help them have a good time, but a real friend, who wants to save him, body and soul.

Too many things can be dug up by someone without anything better to do but I think as with other priests that have left, it will slowly fade.

Remember Fr. Francis, not as big as Fr. Corapi, but popular, and after a “heat rash” of intensity, he wisely took down his web site, his autobiography never appeared (as of yet) and he hopefully found employment to help his child. Life does go on and my only concern is that “enablers” don’t hurt Fr. C more than help him.
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His office managers have told phone interviewers for years that he is hard of hearing (which is one reason he gives few phone interviews), and it was recently mentioned that MRIs he went through to diagnose his mystery illness in 2008 further damaged his hearing.
 
trials said:
New post on the BSD website theblacksheepdog.us/

Entitled: “Abortion: The Truth and the Hope”, advertising a new series, soon to be available to buy over the internet.

The only thing I’m noticing in the outline of the talk is that it is not overtly religious, here is the quoted outline:
"1. The Dark Origins of Abortion
  1. Code: 
    Roe vs. Wade: What Were They Thinking?
  2. Code: 
    The Social and Political Fallout of Abortion
  3. Code: 
    Hope for the Future: Is There Any?"
I can’t criticise what I haven’t seen or heard obviously, but it is sad to see the absence of any Christocentric message in this brief post to advertise the series. It’s like looking at a jigsaw which has the most important piece of it missing.
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Another notable point is that he has announced all future broadcasts/CDs will be in audio form. It’s possible that this will allow him to recycle earlier tapes, editing out the specifically Catholic references and not being seen in clerical garb. The “author” of these broadcasts/CDs is The Black SheepDog–no Corapi name anywhere.
 
J_Katherine said:
His office managers have told phone interviewers for years that he is hard of hearing (which is one reason he gives few phone interviews), and it was recently mentioned that MRIs he went through to diagnose his mystery illness in 2008 further damaged his hearing.
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His mystery illness was vitamin D deficiency. My mother has it. It can be detected via a simple blood test. I don’t know why he’s making such a big deal out of it, having to go to the Mayo Clinic, having to have mri’s. To me it reeks of story telling.

If MRI’s can cause hearing loss, this is news to me. But I’m open to credible evidence that this is so.
 
qui_est_ce said:
His mystery illness was vitamin D deficiency. My mother has it. It can be detected via a simple blood test. I don’t know why he’s making such a big deal out of it, having to go to the Mayo Clinic, having to have mri’s. To me it reeks of story telling.

If MRI’s can cause hearing loss, this is news to me. But I’m open to credible evidence that this is so.
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I mentioned it earlier, I believe this thread. He had a tumor on his parathyroid. The parathyroid is the organ that regulates calcium in the body. Vitamin D also helps absorb calcium. So it could follow that vitamin D helps that condition

I subscribed to his weekly video via e-mail a while back and he sent a video explaining this. He was ill, doctors could not figure out what it was. He went to the mayo clinic and they found the tumor. It was pay per view video, so I don’t have the link.
 
qui est ce His mystery illness was vitamin D deficiency. My mother has it. It can be detected via a simple blood test. I don’t know why he’s making such a big deal out of it, having to go to the Mayo Clinic, having to have mri’s. To me it reeks of story telling.
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Ayup, it sure does!

Sensationalized personal stories reduce the credibility of the speaker.

Looks as if his message became more about him.

Friends from church saw him earlier this year, and were quite disappointed about all of the references to his gun and his ranch. He talked mostly about himself. Not good at all.
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
I mentioned it earlier, I believe this thread. He had a tumor on his parathyroid. The parathyroid is the organ that regulates calcium in the body. Vitamin D also helps absorb calcium. So it could follow that vitamin D helps that condition

I subscribed to his weekly video via e-mail a while back and he sent a video explaining this. He was ill, doctors could not figure out what it was. He went to the mayo clinic and they found the tumor. It was pay per view video, so I don’t have the link.
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This is true. I, too, had to have a radium catscan of my parathyroid. They thought I had a tumour there. Praise God there was none but I was very sick. Your kidneys get involved big time during a period like this. You lose weight, etc etc etc I had a huge stone in my kidney that took 5 hours to laser out. One COULD correlate one to the other but not necessarily so. My problem is malabsoprtion from the crohn’s disease I have. It took 2 specialists to get to this point. The last word came from a nephrologist. But that is me.

Vitamin D regulates calcium in the body. If there is a lack, unregulated calcium causes havoc in the body in so many ways. Parathryoid tumours can also raise havoc in a body.

One case is different from others. We are all different. So, why be so critical and judgemental? Just because one case had no problems does not negate any other person who does. It was probably caught in time. The world does not revolve around one case. Let’s be real here.
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
I mentioned it earlier, I believe this thread. He had a tumor on his parathyroid. The parathyroid is the organ that regulates calcium in the body. Vitamin D also helps absorb calcium. So it could follow that vitamin D helps that condition
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Sorry, I missed that. 😊
I subscribed to his weekly video via e-mail a while back and he sent a video explaining this. He was ill, doctors could not figure out what it was. He went to the mayo clinic and they found the tumor. It was pay per view video, so I don’t have the link.
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When I saw him in St. Louis last year, he made no mention of the tumor, just his vitamin D deficiency.
 
At about this time last year, you revealed that you had a parathyroid tumor. How was that treated, and how is your health now?
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I probably went to physicians in my area 11 times for different physicals. They did all kinds of tests. They kept diagnosing pneumonia, virus this and that, and I just didn’t get better. So I went to the Mayo Clinic and had exhaustive testing, and they did diagnose a parathyroid tumor.
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As it turns out, it seems that was false. What it ended up being, of all things … [was] two things: chronic sleep deprivation and acute vitamin D deficiency — which, by the way, is an epidemic in northern climates. Most physicians still don’t know about it and still don’t routinely test for it. You wouldn’t believe how sick it can make you. The normal way to get it is sunlight. UVB rays stimulate your skin to synthesize what they call vitamin D.
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Living in a northern climate, we have hardly any sun for six months. I have to take supplements, which they gave me in massive doses, and got my levels up. I’ve got the sleep deprivation pretty well under control, which made me feel incredibly better within about a month.
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freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2242132/posts

The whole article has exactly what he said in his St. Louis talk in May 2010.
 
Robertanthony said:
Nice job, qui est ce. He got security advice from the FBI:confused: When I talked to Mr. Obama on the phone yesterday, he told me…
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The mystery illness evolved many times during his year or so away. First it was flu. Then cancer. Then high calcium levels. Then the extremely rare benign parathyroid tumor for which he was emergency airlifted to the Mayo Clinic for surgery “as I write” (in an email responding to a request to speak). Then the discovery that it was not a parathyroid tumor at all, but some kind of chemical imbalance. Then the diagnosis of severe Vitamin D deficiency from living in Montana (which is not, by the way, the sunless tundra), with a prescription of supplements and nude sunbathing (in “sunless” Montana). Tacked on to this last were: severe exhaustion, sleep apnea requiring the use of a CPAP machine, obesity requiring a medically directed 70-lb weight loss achieved solely through “eating right” and exercising, including working out 3 times a week with a personal trainer, and the report of worsened hearing caused by MRIs (which I don’t believe there is literature substantiating, either, but I’m just repeating his and his staff’s claims).

The flu, cancer, and parathyroid tumor diagnoses were shared with his followers during his absence, either by him, his staff, or EWTN on-air personalities. It was not until he began making personal appearances again in 2009 and people noticed his radically altered appearance that the Vitamin D deficiency and medically mandated weight loss were introduced, as explanations for the extreme tanning and gauntness. No explanation has been provided by him or his staff for the other obvious physical changes that occurred during the time off, including newly whitened, straightened, and replaced teeth (cosmetic dentistry), a smooth profile with higher, more symmetrical brows (a browlift or Botox injections, waxing), and the coloring of eyebrows and the new, trimmer goatee. The hair coloring has drawn the most attention, but the other changes are clearly visible in before and after pictures and not as easily accounted for medically.

With regard to his claiming to receive security advice from the FBI, that is actually one of the more plausible name drops, as he had worked with FBI agents in filing the qui tam suit in 2002. The ones I have a hard time believing are Mother Teresa’s calling him to sub for her in giving a keynote address at a pro-life rally (and taking his unsolicited advice on keeping her Sisters’ convents austere and without any luxuries–like lakeside views or fishing boats?–in order to keep them true to their mission); then-Cardinal Ratzinger calling him personally, as a favor, to urge him to give the Catechism lectures in Sacramento when he was hesitating; and of course every famous name he dropped or intimated in his conversion story. Maybe it’s all true. Wait, I have the Holy Father on Line 1 . . .
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
No problem at all, I might have posted it in the previous thread.

But that is odd he did not mention it in St. Louis.
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Read my post below. He says in an interview that he did NOT have a tumor. It was lack of sleep and vitamin D only.

It was another case of “They thought, but it turned out otherwise.” Kind of like the heart problems.
 
qui_est_ce said:
Read my post below. He says in an interview that he did NOT have a tumor. It was lack of sleep and vitamin D only.

It was another case of “They thought, but it turned out otherwise.” Kind of like the heart problems.
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Thanks. I did read your post.

Makes me a bit confused though (not you, just the way the information has been presented.) When I saw him as thin as he was, I was sure it had to do with his paratharoid problem. I hadn’t heard any of the other information, until he came out with the video on why he lost weight.

Seems odd that a quasi-senior citizen priest has such an extreme physical makeover. 😦
 
Years ago, people debated his stories, who would hear one thing, someone else another, the “fans” would make excuses “embellishing” was okay, the other end would say, no stretching or lieing about stories was good, and the in-between didn’t really care, they didn’t follow close enough.
Many just are too busy to follow too closely, some still think he has a tumor, others somethng else.

I also heard him say on TV (by phone) he didn’t have a tumor and thought he had something he just wanted to keep private or he just wanted to be left alone and people kept asking. He does have a right to his privacy, but being a public figure, people want to know things. Vitamin D definciency is an easy blood test, I have it, and I had a hard time thinking if he went to the Mayo Clinic they wouldn’t have tested for that, but again, he has a right to privacy, but don’t put things out there that can be disputed, just say, “It’s a private matter and I’ll update when I can. Period, the end.”

The fact he is still selling things is sad, why would any good Catholic need to pay to hear about abortion when so many good websites have plenty of info? Donate that money to them instead. They have commentary, picutres, videos, etc.

I heard his superior asked him to do the Catechism series in “Coronrary” I hope what the poster said about Rome was a tongue in cheek statement.
He left the priesthood after expreriencing 3 apparitions during his route to the priesthood, had a person pay for the seminary when he couldn’t out of the blue, had to defend his thesis for his doctorate in another language than he knew (and did it) and this was all signs he was meant to be a priest. He then oddly, didn’t want to do 90% of priestly work, sacraments weren’t important and he was unhappy for 10 years or more.
He started to drastically change his appearance, was never heavy but had to lose so much weight, so many things were warning signs, I hope it was his isolation that caussed this and not another church coverup,they just didn’t want to look too deep if his words were okay, but his body and soul were important also.
 
debraran said:
Years ago, people debated his stories, who would hear one thing, someone else another, the “fans” would make excuses “embellishing” was okay, the other end would say, no stretching or lieing about stories was good, and the in-between didn’t really care, they didn’t follow close enough.
Many just are too busy to follow too closely, some still think he has a tumor, others somethng else.

I also heard him say on TV (by phone) he didn’t have a tumor and thought he had something he just wanted to keep private or he just wanted to be left alone and people kept asking. He does have a right to his privacy, but being a public figure, people want to know things. Vitamin D definciency is an easy blood test, I have it, and I had a hard time thinking if he went to the Mayo Clinic they wouldn’t have tested for that, but again, he has a right to privacy, but don’t put things out there that can be disputed, just say, “It’s a private matter and I’ll update when I can. Period, the end.”

The fact he is still selling things is sad, why would any good Catholic need to pay to hear about abortion when so many good websites have plenty of info? Donate that money to them instead. They have commentary, picutres, videos, etc.

I heard his superior asked him to do the Catechism series in “Coronrary” I hope what the poster said about Rome was a tongue in cheek statement.
**He left the priesthood **after expreriencing 3 apparitions during his route to the priesthood, had a person pay for the seminary when he couldn’t out of the blue, had to defend his thesis for his doctorate in another language than he knew (and did it) and this was all signs he was meant to be a priest. He then oddly, didn’t want to do 90% of priestly work, sacraments weren’t important and he was unhappy for 10 years or more.
He started to drastically change his appearance, was never heavy but had to lose so much weight, so many things were warning signs, I hope it was his isolation that caussed this and not another church coverup,they just didn’t want to look too deep if his words were okay, but his body and soul were important also.
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Even now, he has NOT left the priesthood.
Clearly, I’m missing your point, I guess.
 
Sorry, misspoke, I meant his left his role as a priest, whether he wants to leave later, is his business. To me, a priest is always a priest, but if he isn’t in the role of one, isn’t called one, it’s hard to focus on that.

My point was his was a lone wolf in a sense uut I don’t believe anyone lives in that much of a bubble, but when things fall apart, fingers point and I feel this was unraveling for quite a while.
 
debraran said:
Sorry, misspoke, I meant his left his role as a priest, whether he wants to leave later, is his business. To me, a priest is always a priest, but if he isn’t in the role of one, isn’t called one, it’s hard to focus on that.

My point was his was a lone wolf in a sense uut I don’t believe anyone lives in that much of a bubble, but when things fall apart, fingers point and I feel this was unraveling for quite a while.
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Simply, he left public ministry as a priest
because he was ordered to do so by his religious superiors.

He is a priest who has been removed from public ministry.
He is most definitely to be ‘called’ a priest - because he is one.
 
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