Fr. Francis Mary Stone takes leave of absence to discern vocation

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Dear Father Francis I write to you as a person who has too many times been ruled by my emotions. All of us in our small Lay Missionary Movement here in Slovakia www.redletterkids.com are absolutely devasted by hearing your news. For us and for thousands maybe millions you are a roll model in a world which is ruled by emotions instead of allowing God to rule. I wept for this situation this morning as we said the Rosary together pleading with our Mother to pray strongly for your return. Please Father Francis reconsider and stay faithful to your Priestly calling. In the long run i.e. eternity you will reap such a great reward for returning to your vows. We will continue to hold you up in our prayers remebering the story of the Prodigal Son and the great joy there was when he returned. I would love to see you reinstated and maybe a much wiser and more humble person than ever before. From all 17 of us we sayWE LOVE YOU Come back home!!!
Hello, Mike…Just went to your website at redletterkids…and found it so interesting and INSPIRING! Very open and honest testimony, too! šŸ™‚ Suffice to say, this may be one of the first positive things to have come out of this (Fr. Francis’) sad, sad situation - i.e., knowledge of your group’s evangelical work - and hopefully donations to help you in Slovakia and wherever else you may go. Romans 8:28 ALWAYS prevails!!!
**I know your prayers, and those of the beautiful children, will help Fr. Francis! **
We must all PRAY very, very, very, seriously for a GOOD and proper decision by Father, and hopefully soon.
By the way, if you haven’t read the letter from the woman in Japan (VerOnica) - or also the one in Australia - on this thread, then I encourage you to do so. SO excellent! I think it shows us what a far-reaching positive effect EWTN, and LOTR is having across the whole world!!!
Fr. Francis is missed - His ministry will hopefully continue somewhere, somehow, to youth - and old folks like me!
God bless you all.
 
That is indeed strange. I wonder if he requested that they be removed, or perhaps the demand for his old episodes was too high and EWTN didn’t have the bandwidth so they pulled them.
While I, obviously, can’t comment upon their reasons here, history has shown that they tend to pull programs involving any sort of controversial statements or persons from their online archives. It would appear that this is just a continuance of that practice.
 
Sad news. Even if he wanted them to read the letter, they should only have announced a leave of absence to discern vocation, not the reason, in my opinion. It is no sin to fall in love, priest or not, only an opportunity for sacrifice. It would be wrong to break chastity. And wrong not to avoid occasions of sin. But we don’t know if any of those happened. We should all pray for him. EWTN gave opportunity for scandal where none needed to be given.
 
Pax Christi!!! John Paul II made a comment on priests leaving their vocation saying ā€œGod does not take back what He givesā€. Fr. Francis Mary will eventually experience this. My mother was a widow and we grew up benefitting from the special grace God reserves for widowed mothers and their children. We’re all here to learn humility–yes, even those on EWTN. I’m sure the prayers of uncountable faithful of EWTN will cause God to shower all involved with His Grace. It will be interesting to see if the secular media carries this story at all. The last thing the enemy wants is more public awareness of the existence of EWTN ! Once again, the Almighty will draw good out of chaos. Worry about nothing, is She not Our Mother!!!
 
Now that another poster mentioned it, revealing details in the letter did seem to give it a sense of finality. Who knows why EWTN chose to handle things the way they did, but I know for a fact that much prayer and discernment went into their decision.

I’m in the process of converting to Catholicism and don’t have the knowledge that other posters do, and anyway, I am the biggest, fattest sinner of all (so there!). Please don’t take offense at my uneducated and clumsy remarks. But I was abashed by Father Anthony’s excellent homily of the November 2 Mass in which, with his trademark gentle humor, he reminded us to avoid succumbing to the temptation of gossip. It certainly hit home.

It is a difficult time for all involved. All I can do is pray for everyone who is affected by the situation. Peace to all, and enjoy your weekend.
 
Is it not amazing how God is already using this …

Here are people from all over the world - in a house of mourning …

In this month of Nov. when we esp. remember and celebrate death and sainthood …purification …departure of loved ones …all the times when persons who were to be there, could have been there also departed …or did not care …

All the prayers being raised , even if only in inexpressible groanings …The Spirit, sighing Abba …and He is there …

The One Rock that would satisfy all our hunger…and all these temporary pains only urging us forward …to that One Truth …

that He Is our Father …

Times of purification … may be of repentance …that any Father figure would be given the respect and reverence …esp. those such as Bishops …even if they seem fallen like Father Noah …that any bit of scornfulness towards such anointed is against God’s own Sacredness , who has anointed them …

That any glorification of values of the world against the supreme gift of Priesthood is a foundational defect that has to be torn down and rebulit …

Our Lord has revealed through the diary of Divine Mercy , how the grace for the faithful flow when we relate to the priests as Father figures …

And how it wounds His Heart ( may be because He knows that such sinful traits are going to wound us , His beloved children šŸ˜‰ when esp. persons such as nuns and priests cast even one glance at others that is against the roles and faithfulness called for their total relaionship …and His Promise that His yoke is light and the burden not heavy …may be when it is that of a child , in its Father’s arms…gazing at the Mercy and Goodness of that Father …who shares so much with us …

Can see how this incident is probabaly already helping many to search their own ways …and bringing repentance…for the tremedous joy it brings , to heaven …

May that Father coninue to pour out His Mercy …and win hearts

There is the promise of The Divine Mercy Feast , where the Father’s Mercy is esp. procalimed …and promised … to recieve graces like that of in a Baptism …

Yes, He can make all things new …

Today , The church celebrate the Feast of St. Martin De Poress -who was also a friend of St.Rose of Lima - a holy virgin ; may their prayers help us all from the slavery of passions , of vain glory …to experience our true poverty ,and of dependance on God , at every moment …
 
I am truly sorry of the impact this may have on so many. I am not unaware of the gravity and magnitude of the situation, yet after much wise counsel, it is really something that I must deal with now for the good of all.
With that said, it is best that I deal with it away from EWTN. Therefore, I have asked for and graciously been granted some extended time to prayerfully discern my vocation.
To those who are part of the EWTN family locally, and others throughout the world, especially all those who have supported me so faithfully in my priestly vocation and ministry here on Life on the Rock, I sincerely apologize. I ask for your prayers and understanding during this time that is so very difficult, but yet so very necessary.
Please lift me up in your humble prayers to Jesus through Mary, our Mother, in Grace and Mercy.
Fr Francis Mary, MFVA
We really have no right to judge Fr. Francis or the widow. None of us have walked in their very same shoes.

This letter sounds like someone who is experiencing much pain and remorse, letting his family down.

Let us humbly pray that God’s will be done and continue to love these people in our hearts.

I am going to Medjugorje soon and will joyfully offer up my prayers for this situation.
 
His particular ministry, leading the young to Christ, has got to be a special place of attack for the evil one. Fr. Francis AND LOTR need many prayers, as they are on the front lines of the battle.
 
May God grant Fr. Francis Mary the grace and strength to follow His Will.
May God grant US the grace to judge not,love much and to forgive as we need to be forgiven.
I am sure EWTN and Fr.'s fellow priests and brothers are ,like the rest of us, trying to be supportive and praying for God’s outcome.

That having been said, it disturbs me that some seem to want others to be" perfect" and are ready to offer an opinion when so much is not known. I feel sure Fr. is at a crossroad in his walk with God and that he is as good a priest and man as he has ever been. His faith messages are in no way diminished. (The Truth is God’sTruth, even if given by mere mortals.)

I venture to say that no matter how this sad experience was dealt with EWTN and FR. would be judged negatively. For me, I have my FAITH intact,continuing to thank God for the blessing of EWTN and all those who attempt to show the Catholic Church and faith as the way ,through forgiveness, to our heavenly home.

Ease up folks,pray much and just be grateful YOU aren’t under such scrutiny and judgement.
 
I am truly sorry of the impact this may have on so many. I am not unaware of the gravity and magnitude of the situation, yet after much wise counsel, it is really something that I must deal with now for the good of all.
We really have no right to judge Fr. Francis or the widow. None of us have walked in their very same shoes.

This letter sounds like someone who is experiencing much pain and remorse, letting his family down.

Let us humbly pray that God’s will be done and continue to love these people in our hearts.

I am going to Medjugorje soon and will joyfully offer up my prayers for this situation.

I totally agree, I am so sad about this, he must be in great pain.
 
This is always sad news, and I’ll pray for Fr. Francis Mary. I’ve got some good friends at EWTN, and I’m sure they’re hurting.

The following comments are in general, since I don’t know Fr. Francis Mary nor all the details of the situation. I just want to speak from my experience.

That said, at last count, I have about 6 former priests in my parish. Only a couple did not go through the process of laicization. Most are from the 60-70’s generation, and after leaving married.

Also, in my ordination class 4 of the 10 of us are left in active ministry. None of them left explicitly to marry, though one later did get married (to this point).

And in the two years since our bishop was installed, 9 men have left active ministry, most of them younger and recently ordained. That was also true of other ordination classes before and after mine. 2-5 years was the average retention rate for the newly ordained.

Because of all this, I’ve pondered and researched a lot the reasons why men leave the priesthood.
  • The primary reason is stress, coupled with disillusionment. The priesthood is not the seminary, and many young men find themselves doing 40 weddings a year in a large suburban parish with no priestly support, few days off, and few chances to see their friends.
  • Another reason is that perhaps they never should have been ordained in the first place. This is mainly due to narcissism, which until recently, was not given serious consideration in the psychologicals prior to entering seminary. The narcissists tend to divide parishes (building up a cult of personality around themselves) and eventually leave or are asked to leave after destroying more than one parish.
Even for the non-narcissist, the ā€œcult of personalityā€ is a very dangerous trap. I see this in the famous priests who are idolized by the faithful. e.g. I knew Ken Roberts pretty well, and some others I won’t name.
  • And I hate to put it this way, but there is the ā€œwidow trapā€. I’ve seen this on several occasions. Oftentimes, men enter the priesthood with a bit of a ā€œsavior complexā€. They’re sincere, but focus too much on what ā€œtheyā€ do, rather than on what Christ is doing through them. So a mourning widow with children comes along and the priest counsels her, but it doesn’t help, doesn’t fill the void. Eventually, the priest and the widow come to the conclusion that he is the solution - it’s his way of saving her. Not her fault, but his for not knowing the boundaries.
Young priests out there, be very careful. Counsel women in your office, with a glass door, during office hours, with your secretary and office staff in the next room, able to see you. Draw clear boundaries with those you counsel. You are not their savior. You are an instrument to bring them Christ’s healing. If you find yourself crossing boundaries, then stop the counseling completely and send her to another priest. If she starts pushing the boundaries, be gentle yet firm and let her know she’s crossing lines you prefer she doesn’t cross.

Women will push the boundaries, because oftentimes, the priest is everything their husband (current, ex-, or deceased) isn’t - someone who listens, is kind, compassionate, and so on. I saw this in one parish where at any given daily Mass, there were a half-dozen women (widows or divorcees) all in love with the pastor, competing for his attention, and getting jealous if he glanced at one and not another. Seriously.

My hope is that Fr. Francis Mary goes and talks with someone like Fr. Groeschel. I’ve seen Fr. G. put some guys back on the right track

Anyway, that’s my (name removed by moderator)ut for now.
  • Padrecito
 
Fr Francis has had a catastrophi spiritual CRISIS…These are always always extrodinarily painful…Always…

I pray for him, for her, and all at EWTN. This has got to rock them all to the core and be a spiritual knife to the heart.

They need love, they need support, they need prayers and they need to heal…
 
There is an old movie, The Cardinal, which would be advisable for viewing.

imdb.com/title/tt0056907/

Well done, intelligent and insightful, it is no mere sugar coated Catholicism. Rather, it raises very serious and pertinent questions which were particularly notable in its time of release (the early 60s) and offers a real look at the very human challenges of life and faith…
Great novel, superb movie, lots of insight!
 
He definitely has my prayers! We can’t even imagine the AGONY that he is going through.

It has been very enlightening reading all the thoughts of others.

Back in the 60’s when there was so much turmoil after Vatican II, a priest said to me, ā€œWe must be patient, the Holy Spirit is at workā€. I think the Holy Spirit has everything under control.šŸ‘
 
I am Jewish by birth. My wife is Catholic. I cannot in my wildest dreams imagine being apart from her…EVER…! I love my wife so much…
So glad to hear that. We need men such as yourself in this world. We need men like you in the Church.
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jimbol51:
I would like to hear from those of you who are Catholic what will be the implications to him and EWTN if Father Francis decides to stay with this woman. I’m sorry to be somethat uninformed of what these implications might be, but you have to understand that I have learned more about Catholicism from watching EWTN than I ever learned about the Jewish faith that I was born into. Thank all of you for your help in this trying time…jim in San Diego
This is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says:

Paragraph 1583 of Article 6 Section VII of the CCC
It is true that someone validly ordained can, for grave reasons, be discharged from the obligations and functions linked to ordination, or can be forbidden to exercise them; but he cannot become a layman again in the strict sense, 75 because the character imprinted by ordination is for ever.

The vocation and mission received on the day of his ordination mark him permanently.

Just as in Baptism, the Sacrament of Holy Orders confers an indelible and permanent mark on the soul of the man that is being ordained. It is permanent. A priest is a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.

I don’t know what Fr. Francis will do but I know one thing, he will be committing adultery if he decides to stay with this woman and therefore will become a ā€œdead memberā€ of the Church if he does not repent. I guess there is some kind of process they can go through such as a married person can go through an annulment. I would have to search that. We NEED to PRAY for Fr. Francis so that he will not fall.

This is a huge cross for Father and I hope he is offering it up right now to Jesus through Mary.

Pray, pray and pray some more. Fast and mortify yourselves for Father. He needs us right now.
 
While I can see a younger priest, in his 30’s, feeling he is on the wrong track, it is difficult to understand one in his 40’s or 50’s leaving. His situation is terrible. He is abandoning what he has spent his life building just at the time he should be using it to its fullest. He is a penniless immigrant arriving on a strange shore with no marketable skills.

It is difficult to find employment after one is 40. With no skills and no experience it is near impossible. I know at least one priest who left who experienced this. I know another in his 70’s who is still working because he will never live long enough to retire and his family has to eat.

Add to this his feeling at each mass of the great gulf between where he sits in the congregation and where he used to be at the altar.

They need all the prayers we can provide.
 
I wish to compare this situation that Fr. Francis faces to what happens when you sign the papers for divorce. Until that moment, you have no clue as to what is about to happen. You have signed your name, the deed is done and like lightening you descend into a dark abyss that stays with you forever. You can pretend to the outside world that all is well but you know that dark place is ever present. God is quoted in Malachi saying, ā€œI hate divorceā€. When God says he hates, you know that it is unfathomable. :signofcross: :crossrc:
 
While I can see a younger priest, in his 30’s, feeling he is on the wrong track, it is difficult to understand one in his 40’s or 50’s leaving. His situation is terrible. He is abandoning what he has spent his life building just at the time he should be using it to its fullest. He is a penniless immigrant arriving on a strange shore with no marketable skills.

It is difficult to find employment after one is 40. With no skills and no experience it is near impossible. I know at least one priest who left who experienced this. I know another in his 70’s who is still working because he will never live long enough to retire and his family has to eat.

Add to this his feeling at each mass of the great gulf between where he sits in the congregation and where he used to be at the altar.

They need all the prayers we can provide.
He lived a secular life before he became a priest. He has a degree and worked in the business world as a consultant and litigation specialist for a firm specializing in business valuations and economic litigation support. That is just information I found here. I already emailed them so that they can update their website. Not only for what is happening right now but because he hasn’t been the Vocation Director for a long time, Fr. Anthony is Vocation Director and has been for a while now.
 
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