Fr John Corapi has Announced in a Video Message that he is Leaving the Priesthood

[debraran]

It’s funny to listen to youtube excerpts from him on obedience and humility and not being confrontational, how he wasn’t a quitter…things change,but it still was strange,

 

[SunnaB16]

This was put up earlier; but no one commented: (#160)
(Change “this message” to “his actions”.)

An apology if someone else has already said this.

One of Father Corapis mottos is "Surrender is NOT an Option". Could this message be his way of forcing the issue regarding the treatment of accused priests (not just himself) ? Maybe, in his own way, hes exercising heroic virtue by sacrificing his good name, and taking advantage of his high profile, for the sake of other priests… He DID say: “I don`t care what anybody thinks of me.”.

Robertanthony: (Post #286)
How do you know what Fr Corapi did with the settlement money?

The baying of hounds makes me sick!

 

[Robertanthony]

This was put up earlier; but no one commented: (#160)
(Change “this message” to “his actions”.)

Robertanthony: (Post #286)
How do you know what Fr Corapi did with the settlement money?

I don’t know him personally, so how would I know? This I know: he said he was willing to wager $100 000 that a cocaine/drug test performed on him would come back negative, but if it came back positive, that he’d give the money the next day. That could be an indication of how well-off he is, and it wouldn’t be over the top to think his financial werewithal comes partly from the settlement money.

 

[SunnaB16]

I don’t know him personally, so how would I know?.. That could be an indication of how well-off he is, and it wouldn’t be over the top to think his financial werewithal comes partly from the settlement money.

You seem a bit quick to judge, though.

This involves risk; but there`s been a question rolling around in my mind for the past couple of days:
Will the public lynching of Father Corapi be televised?

 

[Robertanthony]

You seem a bit quick to judge, though.

You could be right. Perhaps you’ll be interested to know that I give (Father) John Corapi full credit (along with God’s love) for my change of heart toward God and the Catholic Church, both of which I had written off. I don’t enjoy witnessing this.

 

[coco2]

I was responding to the quote posted by Father Groeschel. It was not meant specifically about Father Corapi. However, to be fair, I did notice a difference in his later videos as compared to his earlier ones. The early ones were more humble in my view as compared to his later ones. Perhaps I am just seeing things which are not there but I do remember getting that impression…

There is a huge difference in Fr. Corapi, from his older videos and the newer ones. His conference in Cincinnati last year was quite strange, in my opinion. He talked about buying his Harley in cash, his Montana ranch and how he sleeps with a loaded gun next to him. Something has clearly happened to him. I’m very concerned about his mental health. However, when I heard that he had this name Black Sheep Dog registered for over a year now, it makes me sit back and wonder if this whole thing was planned. ( This is just me wondering, mods.) How convenient to have this happen and a book coming out right alongside this scandal. I won’t be buying it,

By the way, from what I understand, priests do NOT take a vow of poverty which is why Fr. Corapi has been able to keep his millions. Maybe it depends on their Order, but Diocesan priests don’t take this vow. I know he isn’t a Diocesan priest, but he has clearly been able to keep money earned from preaching.

JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU.

 

[guanophore]

When a man is laicized, he receives what is known as a “rescript of laicization.” This is basically a boilerplate document that says what he may and may not do as a lay person.

Back in 2006, Jimmy Akin published a concise summary of what this boilerplate looks like. The key points are below (go to this link to see the actual boilerplate):

The main do’s and don’ts that pertain to how the priest is to conduct himself on an ongoing basis are found in sections 4 and 5 of the rescript and can be summarized as follows:

1. He can’t celebrate any of the sacraments except for hearing deathbed confessions. It is especially noted that he can’t give homilies.
2. He can’t serve as an extraordinary minister of holy Communion.
3. He can’t serve any “directive office in the pastoral field” (e.g., serving as a parish administrator).
4. He can’t do anything at all in a seminary.
5. He can’t serve as a director or teacher in a Catholic university.
6. He can’t teach theology or any closely related discipline (e.g., religious studies, history of theology) in a non-Catholic university.
7. He can’t serve a director (e.g., school principal) in a parochial school.
8. He can’t serve as a teacher in a parochial school unless he gets the bishop’s permission.
9. He shouldn’t live in or frequent places where his status as an ex-priest is generally known, unless he gets the bishop’s permission.
   So, again, unless Father Corapi’s intent is to leave communion with the Church, his ability to do his job will be severely limited. That is, of course, unless he works out some special deal with the Vatican that limits him far less than the above. See point #9. Father Corapi would have a hard time functioning just about any place without people knowing who he was and that he is a priest.

I don’t see how any of this applies. I never saw anything that said he asked to be laicized.

 

[guanophore]

I buried a baby boy, 2 years, 7 months and 1 day old after a tragic accident at home. The suffering is unbearable. His death was not and will never be a ‘gift’.

You can’t say that the pain another person suffers is a gift from God that should be accepted with open arms. You don’t know that to be true. Maybe God will bring good from what happened to Fr Corapi but to insinuate that this is some painful gift to be embraced is awful.

For the Christ centered person, all suffering is a gift. Our example is Christ Himself.

Heb 12:1-2
12:1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us, 2 looking to Jesus the pioneer and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.

We may despise the shame and the pain of the crosses we are given in life to bear, but for the joy that is set before us, we endure them. Jesus embraced the wood of His cross, setting the example of how we need to embrace ours. John Corapi spoke often of this, and I trust will not run from this cross either.

1 Thess 5:16-19
16 Rejoice always, 17 pray constantly, 18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

We are taught to give thanks IN all circumstances, not FOR them.

There are few experiences in all of human life more painful than losing a child. Our Mother Mary felt a sword pierce her own heart also as she watched the life of her son leak out of His body. Her consolation is there for us as well. I will keep you in prayer during this grievious loss. :hug3:

 

[JM3]

One of Father Corapis mottos is "Surrender is NOT an Option". Could this message be his way of forcing the issue regarding the treatment of accused priests (not just himself) ? Maybe, in his own way, hes exercising heroic virtue by sacrificing his good name, and taking advantage of his high profile, for the sake of other priests… He DID say: “I don`t care what anybody thinks of me.”.

catholicmediacoalition.org/persecuted_priests.htm

After reading this article, I think you may be correct.

Jesus, I trust in You. Help us.

 

[dfp42]

This is all starting to make a little sense now with his story now…

Watch this video and listen to 1:50. There are no names mentioned but it’s clear there was problems and he knew it. youtube.com/watch?v=MmehVX4FNoU&feature=youtu.be

This was his very last conference he did from Newark, NJ, on October 30, 2010. He did mention some personal stuff about his life in this conference. I was there. I dunno what to really think but I sure he had his problems and wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Sad.

 

[guanophore]

I don’t recall Fr. Corapi saying he barely knew the woman.

I do, but given that he has never been privy to the source or the content of the complaint, he may have initially thought it came from someone else - besides the former employee that he tried so hard to help.

 

[guanophore]

OK so just an hour ago Fr. made a tweet on twitter from his black sheep dog page and said…

“Please love the Church. You follow the Church. I am not against the Church, I am still a priest, just not ministering publicly.”

But the question now is well…what kind of priest does or will the Church see him as? And if he continues going on with his new program to preach will the Catholic Church support this. Anyone?

At the moment he was placed on administrative leave, he was put in a position where he was not able to minister publicly as a priest. Nothing has changed, except that he has decided not to fight with them about it. He is going to move on in the direction he believe that God has called him, which is to preach, and guard the flock of God. If the authorities forbid him to do so publicly as a priest, then he will obey them.

 

[dfp42]

Sorry link didn’t work try this at 1:50 youtu.be/MmehVX4FNoU

 

[Abba]

It seems that Father Corapi will be in Massachusetts next month. Tickets are being sold on Ebay for $136.25 .

cgi.ebay.com/1-8-Tickets-Father-John-Corapi-8-6-11-TD-Garden-/200580488499?pt=US_Tickets_all_in_one&hash=item2eb3875d33

 

[guanophore]

I completely reject any suggestion that John Corapi (or any man) has been somehow set apart by God such that he is above responding to the rules and authorities that apply to ordinary men.

But this is exactly the case! All who are ordained as priests are set apart by virtue of their vocation. Much more is expected of them than “ordinary men”. They have responsibilities and obligations that laypersons do not, and they answer to canon laws that don’t apply to those who are not priests. It is these very canon laws that are being implemented right now. No layperson would ever be in this situation. He does have to answer to rules and authorities that others do not, because he is a priest.

Even if one were to credit the above stories (which all appear to come exclusively from the person supposedly being afforded this unique divine attention), we do not have a tradition of excusing certain allegedly holier-than-the-rest-of-us individuals from oversight or from adhering to proper standards.

I don’t hear him saying that he believes he is exempt from anything. On the contrary, he has consistently supported the authority of the bishop to act, even though he believes the action is wrong.

If anything the opposite is true. Even St. Francis sought permission from the Pope to preach as he did, and submitted to Rome’s investigation of his stigmata.

In accepting the suspension of his faculties, he is recognizing the authority of the bishop and his superiors to take this action. I am sure if he develops any stigmata, he will submit to Rome’s investigation of them.

I don’t find it particularly holy or merit-worthy for a priest to refuse his superior’s request to conform to the rules of his order, to refuse to meet with his bishop before quiting the priesthood, or to threaten lawsuits to prevent his superiors from talking to his accusers.

If he cannot submit to the rules of the order, he will need to leave the order. This is not uncommon either. The order changed the constitutions, and he no longer fits. He may belong in a different order, or none at all.

It was the bishop that initiated the suspension of his priestly activities. What would be the purpose of a meeting? He has been given clear direction, and has accepted it. I still have not seen anything that indicates he has requested to leave the priesthood.

As far as the lawsuits, the non-disclosure agreement was implemented with a disgruntled employee when she separated. He cannot know for certain that this is the source of the complaint, because he is not allowed to have the information on the identity or nature of the accusation.

He is a good speaker, and I would like to believe he was well-intentioned, but neither excuses bad behavior or exempts him from scrutiny and oversight.

I agree.

 

[guanophore]

That is part of the problem. A claim like that is scandalous, especially without giving solid evidence to support the accusation.

According to his superior, they couldn’t do a complete investigation because he filed the civil lawsuit. If the unamed bishop told him to file the lawsuit to keep the investigators from gathering information, then he should have ignored the advice.

I have been a fan of Fr. Corapi, but this turn troubles me greatly.

Peace

Tim

No, the lawsuit and the separation of the disgruntled employee predated all this recent scandal. That will be clear when the police report is located.

 

[dfp42]

No, the lawsuit and the separation of the disgruntled employee predated all this recent scandal. That will be clear when the police report is located.

Is a police report or a civil lawsuit considered public information to the world to see?

 

[SunnaB16]

catholicmediacoalition.org/persecuted_priests.htm

After reading this article, I think you may be correct.

Jesus, I trust in You. Help us.

Great, but distressing, article!
Many thanks.

During one of his talks, Father Corapi mentions a priest who was accused by a woman who had a (known) history of mental instability. The bishop sacked him. Father Corapi`s final words were" “Father now drives a taxi cab, at the age of 70.”.

 

[annem]

After listening to Father Corapi’s audio tape I was worried by the hoarseness in Father’s voice. I wondered if some Doctor could have given him a prescription for a benzodiazepine such as Ativan or some other mild drug due to lack of sleep or anxiety. So many drugs are fine for the majority of people…but can have bad effects on a few. And I also worried that he appeared to be looping back again and again into the same thought pattern.

I just loved Father Corpai’s tapes so much and I am now so worried for him.

Am I the only one who noticed the change in his voice?

God bless, Anne

 

[guanophore]

  There is no room for disobedience to the bishop.

I don’t understand this statement. I mean, of course, he has an obligation to obedience, but I don’t see where he has not?

The bishop wanted his public ministry as a priest suspended, and he has accepted this. How is this disobedient?