Mary_Gail_36
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I wonder what that statute of limitations is on this type of lawsuit?
Fr John Corapi has Announced in a Video Message that he is Leaving the Priesthood
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TheRealJuliane
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He sounds angry and bitter, and very vindictive.
His new clip is Self-Pitying.
His new clip is Self-Pitying.
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NewEnglandPriest
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- The process was essentially 3 months old. To give up this early seems a bit odd. He wasn’t accused of sexual misconduct with a minor. Even if he was found guilty of consensual sexual relations with an adult woman that wouldn’t necessarily mean he would be kicked out of ministry.
- According to the NCReg , Father Gerard Sheehan, regional priest-servant of SOLT
stated that if he had simply agreed not to sue his accuser the process could have moved forward but he refused to do that. I’d like to think that clearing my name and continuing with my vocation would be more important to me than a civil suit against my accuser. - Fr. Corapi seems to have made the wrong move at every turn. His initial press release was awkward. Then his company started spilling details about the incident. Then he claimed the process was canonically illicit (did he ever appeal it?) and yet it continued on. And now he’s making a claim the woman tried to extort him, is an alcoholic, and mentally unstable. He spends way too much time attacking his accuser and also all the bishops. Strange.
- What happened to him happens to many people in public positions (police, firefighters, teachers, etc). When there’s an accusation they get suspended until there’s a resolution. He could have offered it up to be in union with them.
- He spends a lot of time saying that the Church has abandoned him. Yet he never experienced any financial hardship because of those situations. Yes, he had to pay out 1000’s of dollars in legal fees for certain situations. But he also personally profits from his own media company and sits on a multimillion dollar settlement from years ago. Most priests, especially religious, don’t have those resources. If the Church didn’t pay his legal fees its because there’s not a giant bottomless bucket of money and the Church only helps those who truly need it.
He claims he’s spend over $300,000 defending himself, I would question that but at the same time, he still never appeared to be hurting for money so its ultimately irrelevant. - He seems to make all of this about him. And that seems to be a pattern with him. Peppered into many of his talks/writings it seems that there’s people persecuting him at every turn throughout his entire priesthood. A little dramatic for me.
Despite what he thinks, even this process is ultimately not about him. Its about a consistent system that is able to make credible judgments, it doesn’t all change because he thinks everyone should presume his innocence.
And the music at the end, imho, is rather narcissistic. - His challenge to take a drug test for cocaine is laughable. For someone who wants to bask in the public glow, he sure is sensitive to internet slights.
- And finally, the graphics on his video and blog creep me out. Not that that matters, but still…
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markomalley
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Honestly, this reminded me of a scene from the Caine Mutiny. And I don’t say that mockingly…I really see a resemblance.
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markomalley
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I agree with all you say. Particularly #6. I am not an expert on the saints, but I cannot think of a single one who reacted similarly given even remotely similar circumstances.
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debraran
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SOLT said he had been wanting to leave for 3 years, because of physcial and spiiritual and mental anguish. He had changed over the years.
I read this today:
One thing that was disconcerting was a shift in his talks from something that was much more Christo-centric, to something ego-centric. Here is one testimony from a disspointed fan who went to the talk he gave in Cincinatti.
During the course of the day, we learned that Fr. Corapi owns a home in northwest Montana which he paid for with a million-dollar lawsuit settlement. He drives a fast car with lots of horsepower and keeps a loaded .45 in the glove compartment. He also rides a fat boy Harley Davidson motorcycle, owns a boat of unspecified size, and vacations in Key West. He works out six times a week, twice with a female physical trainer, and has lost seventy pounds and increased his strength by a hundred percent in the past year. The weight loss prompted him, at his charitable best, to donate two large bags of “fat clothes” to the local Salvation Army. I can only assume that the donated clothes did not consist of old habits and clericals. I don’t know why he chose to share these personal bits of information, but they did nothing to enhance his credibility as a witness to the gospel.
He made millions I learned, I read “Coronary” a book about his law suit, which showed how the business started and grew (100.000 a month the first time) He couldn’t hear confessions for years, something about not belonging to any one parish or diocese, he didn’t say mass often, didn’t marry couples or officiate at funerals, was rarely on EWTN other than his show which was taped, didn’t serve the poor, give money to charity’s that ever was mentioned, visit the sick, etc. He preached period and made money from every speech and DVD and book…nothing was ever free. The fact he repeated the Catholic doctrine alone, does that make him honest and trustworthy?
Does talking about a woman that no one knows and defaming her charitable? Did she go on a blog or public site and do that to him? Did she put the letter online? No, but he is tearing her to shreds.
I just can’t stomach it anymore…my one CD of his conversion, if that was entirely true is gone.
I pray he doesn’t go any more off the grid and ask Jesus and Mary to not have him hurt the church from this point on. If he needs help, I hope he gets it. He was saved from himself once, it can happen again.
I read this today:
One thing that was disconcerting was a shift in his talks from something that was much more Christo-centric, to something ego-centric. Here is one testimony from a disspointed fan who went to the talk he gave in Cincinatti.
During the course of the day, we learned that Fr. Corapi owns a home in northwest Montana which he paid for with a million-dollar lawsuit settlement. He drives a fast car with lots of horsepower and keeps a loaded .45 in the glove compartment. He also rides a fat boy Harley Davidson motorcycle, owns a boat of unspecified size, and vacations in Key West. He works out six times a week, twice with a female physical trainer, and has lost seventy pounds and increased his strength by a hundred percent in the past year. The weight loss prompted him, at his charitable best, to donate two large bags of “fat clothes” to the local Salvation Army. I can only assume that the donated clothes did not consist of old habits and clericals. I don’t know why he chose to share these personal bits of information, but they did nothing to enhance his credibility as a witness to the gospel.
He made millions I learned, I read “Coronary” a book about his law suit, which showed how the business started and grew (100.000 a month the first time) He couldn’t hear confessions for years, something about not belonging to any one parish or diocese, he didn’t say mass often, didn’t marry couples or officiate at funerals, was rarely on EWTN other than his show which was taped, didn’t serve the poor, give money to charity’s that ever was mentioned, visit the sick, etc. He preached period and made money from every speech and DVD and book…nothing was ever free. The fact he repeated the Catholic doctrine alone, does that make him honest and trustworthy?
Does talking about a woman that no one knows and defaming her charitable? Did she go on a blog or public site and do that to him? Did she put the letter online? No, but he is tearing her to shreds.
I just can’t stomach it anymore…my one CD of his conversion, if that was entirely true is gone.
I pray he doesn’t go any more off the grid and ask Jesus and Mary to not have him hurt the church from this point on. If he needs help, I hope he gets it. He was saved from himself once, it can happen again.
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Marie5890
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ncregister.com/daily-news/solts-superior-speaks/
“As the regional priest servant of the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity (SOLT), I issue the following statement on behalf of the society:
On 16 March 2011, the Bishop of Corpus Christi, Texas, and the SOLT received a complaint against Father John Corapi, SOLT. As is normal procedure and due to the gravity of the accusation alleging conduct not in concert with the priestly state or his promises as a member of an society of apostolic of diocesan right, Father Corapi was suspended from active ministry (put on administrative leave) until such a time that the complaint could be fully investigated and due process given to Father Corapi. In the midst of the investigation, the SOLT received a letter from Father Corapi, dated June 3, 2011, indicating that, because of the physical, emotional and spiritual distress he has endured over the past few years, he could no longer continue to function as a priest or a member of the SOLT. Although the investigation was in progress, the SOLT had not arrived at any conclusion as to the credibility of the allegations under investigation.
At the onset, the Bishop of Corpus Christi advised the SOLT to not only proceed with the policies outlined in their own constitution, but also with the proper canonical procedures to determine the credibility of the allegations against Father Corapi. We reiterate that Father Corapi had not been determined guilty of any canonical or civil crimes. If the allegations had been found to be credible, the proper canonical due process would have been offered to Father Corapi, including his right to defense, to know his accuser and the complaint lodged, and a fair canonical trial with the right of recourse to the Holy See. On June 17, 2011, Father John Corapi issued a public statement indicating that he has chosen to cease functioning as a priest and a member of the SOLT.
The SOLT is deeply saddened that Father Corapi is suffering distress. The SOLT is further saddened by Father Corapi’s response to these allegations. The SOLT will do all within its power to assist Father Corapi if he desires to seek a dispensation from his rights and obligations as a priest and as a professed member of the SOLT. We request your prayers and the intercession of the Blessed Mother for the healing of Father Corapi and for any who have been negatively affected by Father Corapi’s decision to end his ministry as a priest and a member of the SOLT.”
Read more: ncregister.com/daily-news/solts-superior-speaks/#ixzz1PrRHGrCm
“As the regional priest servant of the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity (SOLT), I issue the following statement on behalf of the society:
On 16 March 2011, the Bishop of Corpus Christi, Texas, and the SOLT received a complaint against Father John Corapi, SOLT. As is normal procedure and due to the gravity of the accusation alleging conduct not in concert with the priestly state or his promises as a member of an society of apostolic of diocesan right, Father Corapi was suspended from active ministry (put on administrative leave) until such a time that the complaint could be fully investigated and due process given to Father Corapi. In the midst of the investigation, the SOLT received a letter from Father Corapi, dated June 3, 2011, indicating that, because of the physical, emotional and spiritual distress he has endured over the past few years, he could no longer continue to function as a priest or a member of the SOLT. Although the investigation was in progress, the SOLT had not arrived at any conclusion as to the credibility of the allegations under investigation.
At the onset, the Bishop of Corpus Christi advised the SOLT to not only proceed with the policies outlined in their own constitution, but also with the proper canonical procedures to determine the credibility of the allegations against Father Corapi. We reiterate that Father Corapi had not been determined guilty of any canonical or civil crimes. If the allegations had been found to be credible, the proper canonical due process would have been offered to Father Corapi, including his right to defense, to know his accuser and the complaint lodged, and a fair canonical trial with the right of recourse to the Holy See. On June 17, 2011, Father John Corapi issued a public statement indicating that he has chosen to cease functioning as a priest and a member of the SOLT.
The SOLT is deeply saddened that Father Corapi is suffering distress. The SOLT is further saddened by Father Corapi’s response to these allegations. The SOLT will do all within its power to assist Father Corapi if he desires to seek a dispensation from his rights and obligations as a priest and as a professed member of the SOLT. We request your prayers and the intercession of the Blessed Mother for the healing of Father Corapi and for any who have been negatively affected by Father Corapi’s decision to end his ministry as a priest and a member of the SOLT.”
Read more: ncregister.com/daily-news/solts-superior-speaks/#ixzz1PrRHGrCm
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Sonic
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The allegations were found to be not credible. I don’t understand Fr. Corapi’s reaction.
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Marie5890
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I think you misunderstood the statement.
The investigation never went forward because of a civil suit Fr. had against the woman making the allegation.So there wasn’t the ability for the investigation to determine if it was or was not credible.
The whole investigation was derailed by Fr.'s actions.
Hope that clears up the confusion.
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mike0219116
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This situation seems to get sadder by the minute. There is no doubt in my mind that Fr. Corapi’s action will create significant and long-lasting divisions is the U.S. Church, and the last thing Catholicism needs in this country is another source of division.
In his new audio update, I’m stuck by the way the rebutted the man who speculated that Fr. Corapi may be using cocaine again. I can appreciate Fr. Corapi’s need to make a strong denial of that allegation, but I thought his rebuttal had a vicious bite to it. He also seemed to flaunt his wealth somewhat by offering to put up a $100,000 bet on a clean drug test (he could pay off the money in twenty-four hours, while he seemed to imply this blogger would need to liquidate his car, house, etc… to pay off the bet).
And what about the repeated characterizations of his accuser as a life-long alcoholic? Talk about potentially libelous accusations…
In his new audio update, I’m stuck by the way the rebutted the man who speculated that Fr. Corapi may be using cocaine again. I can appreciate Fr. Corapi’s need to make a strong denial of that allegation, but I thought his rebuttal had a vicious bite to it. He also seemed to flaunt his wealth somewhat by offering to put up a $100,000 bet on a clean drug test (he could pay off the money in twenty-four hours, while he seemed to imply this blogger would need to liquidate his car, house, etc… to pay off the bet).
And what about the repeated characterizations of his accuser as a life-long alcoholic? Talk about potentially libelous accusations…
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the_phoenix
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Praying for Fr. John Corapi:
St. Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the Devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
and do thou,
O Prince of the heavenly hosts,
by the power of God,
thrust into hell Satan,
and all the evil spirits,
who prowl about the world
seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.
St. Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the Devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
and do thou,
O Prince of the heavenly hosts,
by the power of God,
thrust into hell Satan,
and all the evil spirits,
who prowl about the world
seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.
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Sonic
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Sorry, but your explanation doesn’t clear anything up.I think you misunderstood the statement.
So there wasn’t the ability for the investigation to determine if it was or was not credible.
The whole investigation was derailed by Fr.'s actions.
Hope that clears up the confusion.
The process didn’t go forward because Fr. Corapi requested to resign from active ministry and religious life. It was not because of the civil lawsuit. You have your facts mixed up.
Now compare the information above to the new information being provided:
At the onset, the Bishop of Corpus Christi advised the SOLT to not only proceed with the policies outlined in their own constitution, but also with the proper canonical procedures to determine the credibility of the allegations against Father Corapi. We reiterate that Father Corapi had not been determined guilty of any canonical or civil crimes. If the allegations had been found to be credible, the proper canonical due process would have been offered to Father Corapi, including his right to defense, to know his accuser and the complaint lodged, and a fair canonical trial with the right of recourse to the Holy See. On June 17, 2011, Father John Corapi issued a public statement indicating that he has chosen to cease functioning as a priest and a member of the SOLT.
source: ncregister.com/daily-news/solts-superior-speaks/
Notice, there is no date given for when the civil lawsuit was initiated in these articles. I think that is a very important fact we should be made aware of.
Edit: Was the civil lawsuit initiated before or after the allegations were made?
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irishpatrick
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We have learned a critical lesson from Father Corapi:
A cult of personality is a very dangerous thing.
We have seen similar emotional ties to other Priests, like Father Pfleger in Chicago. The Church, in its wisdom has always known that Priests must reduce while the Lord increases, because if the Priest increases, the Lord is hidden from view.
A cult of personality is a very dangerous thing.
We have seen similar emotional ties to other Priests, like Father Pfleger in Chicago. The Church, in its wisdom has always known that Priests must reduce while the Lord increases, because if the Priest increases, the Lord is hidden from view.
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Abba
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Amen.
In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
Most glorious Prince of the Heavenly Armies, Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in “our battle against principalities and powers, against the rulers of this world of darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places” (Eph., 6,12). Come to the assistance of men whom God has created to His likeness and whom He has redeemed at a great price from the tyranny of the devil. Holy Church venerates thee as her guardian and protector; to thee, the Lord has entrusted the souls of the redeemed to be led into heaven. Pray therefore the God of Peace to crush Satan beneath our feet, that he may no longer retain men captive and do injury to the Church. Offer our prayers to the Most High, that without delay they may draw His mercy down upon us; take hold of “the dragon, the old serpent, which is the devil and Satan”, bind him and cast him into the bottomless pit … “that he may no longer seduce the nations” (Apoc. 20, 2-3).
Amen.
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Abba
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Sonic, it has happened to me that sometimes when I have read bad news I have easily misread what I read in part due to the emotional reaction etc… A reading that makes everything right is nice.
Unfortunately, what Marie5890 is pointing out is correct. Read it again. They were investigating and had not arrived at an official decision when they had to stop the investigation due to Father Corapi’s civil actions against the woman that alleges to have been sexually molested by him. And, ultimately, his recent public statement to have decided to leave the priesthood.
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Marie5890
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Sorry for the confusion Sonic; I was trying to address your above comment that the “allegations were found not to be credible.”
I was trying to point out that wasn’t true. The investigation was stopped so there is no conclusion as to whether or not they were credible.
My apologizes.
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Sonic
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We just misunderstood each other. I see what you’re saying more clearly now. Thanks.Sorry for the confusion Sonic; I was trying to address your above comment that the “allegations were found not to be credible.”
I was trying to point out that wasn’t true. The investigation was stopped so there is no conclusion as to whether or not they were credible.
My apologizes.
Edit: Just to clarify, I didn’t mean to say that the allegations were not found credible. I was trying to square the two articles with each other along with the other events. My post was too vague to communicate that. No big deal.
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debraran
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I don’t think she said she was molested, she said he was having sexual realations with multiple women over a period of time and was using drugs of some type again.
One source said she was an employee who worked for him for many years and was trusted,and now she is “crazy”.He is too smart to have people work for him that are impaired unless he felt it would look better if something like this happened, but that is far-fetched. The fact he had his employees sign something like that gives me pause, maybe others might not think so. Unless I worked for the FBI., things like that (and I probably wouldn’t) I would NEVER sign that for a priest…it just wouldn’t feel right.
He wanted to stop the investigaton in part I feel because he was leaving all along, the copyright of his new name was a year ago, the book title, his telling his superiors he wasn’t happy, his void in appearances for years, mystery illness’s, so many odd things.
One source said she was an employee who worked for him for many years and was trusted,and now she is “crazy”.He is too smart to have people work for him that are impaired unless he felt it would look better if something like this happened, but that is far-fetched. The fact he had his employees sign something like that gives me pause, maybe others might not think so. Unless I worked for the FBI., things like that (and I probably wouldn’t) I would NEVER sign that for a priest…it just wouldn’t feel right.
He wanted to stop the investigaton in part I feel because he was leaving all along, the copyright of his new name was a year ago, the book title, his telling his superiors he wasn’t happy, his void in appearances for years, mystery illness’s, so many odd things.
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Therese_Martin
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Teelynn
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Just a thought on the subject. I have read so many responses to this that seem to compare his decision/actions to those of many saints. For instance for the actions of Padre Pio when he was undergoing a similar trial. These comparisons are even coming from clergy. It seems to me that in most circumstances and in most lives, it takes our good Lord a lifetime to do the molding so to speak. I’m not quite sure that He is completely through with Fr. Corapi just yet.
Both concerning his saintliness and a resolve to this crisis, it ain’t over till the fat lady sings.
Both concerning his saintliness and a resolve to this crisis, it ain’t over till the fat lady sings.
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