Fr John Corapi has Announced in a Video Message that he is Leaving the Priesthood

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Does anyone have any thoughts of what they think could happen if the accuser was to come clean on this? What would it change or would it change anything anyway at this point?
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
So many posters who ‘know what Father needs’ or ‘should’ be doing.

It all comes down to: “He’s not doing this MY way! And I don’t like it!”

May you be judged with more charity should the need ever arise.
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If only they had eyes to see this, and ears to hear…:mad:
 
Lampo said:
I wonder what is more important to him (Corapi) than changing the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus?** Or will he always be able to do that for as long as he lives no matter what happens to him?**
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Yes, he will but only in private.
 
dfp42 said:
Does anyone have any thoughts of what they think could happen if the accuser was to come clean on this? What would it change or would it change anything anyway at this point?
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It would change the objective truth of the situation, but it is the subjective truth that seems to cause so many problems.
 
Praying for all here who are hurt, disappointed and angry at this whole situation and each other in the thread.

This certainly has exposed our own human weaknesses and ability to finger point at each other. May God have Mercy and help us to be more Christ-like towards each other.

🙂
 
I am really shocked by this news…poor Father Corapi…

He will always be ‘a priest forever’ because of the special character that Holy Orders placed on his soul, even though he will not be doing a priest’s duties. That won’t change.

I saw him twice in my life, once in Rochester, NY and then at Auriesville Shrine, also in NY (the place of his ‘conversion’). I had a picture taken with him at the latter place.

I will still pray for him-and I will still call him FATHER Corapi!
 
Ella said:
Perhaps folks that had stopped doing so could give EWTN some support and consideration now? They are really hurting for funds and have done nothing wrong in this whole Fr. Corapi matter.
I don’t see how making EWTN go off the air could help anyone but the devil. And it would be quite an accomplishment for the devil to pull not only Fr. Corapi down but EWTN off the air as well, all with this one scandal.
I continue to pray for Fr. Corapi and EWTN.
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*Thank you for that Ella. Yes, we must also pray for EWTN.

Cinette*
 
Corapi and the Blogs
Vort-2011-06-23
Hello everyone … and welcome to the Vortex … where lies and falsehoods are trapped and
exposed … I’m Michael Voris.
Fr. Corapi and his decisions and recent actions are NOT the topic of this Vortex. What IS
the topic is the Catholic Media’s response to his actions.
The sanctimonious and self-righteous condemnation of Fr. John Corapi is frankly
disgusting.
And let me be very clear … this is not a defense or condemnation of his actions.
Frankly … I don’t know enough about the case to have an opinion. There are lots and lots
of unanswered questions.
But again … his actions and decisions are not the topic here today. The tone of the
“professional Catholics” on the internet however is.
And yes … we said TONE. Faithful orthodox Catholics who are sick of the corruption in
the hierarchy . sexual … financial and political … are constantly being slammed for the
amorphous TONE issue … as in too much Clarity but not enough Charity.
Well … if how these professional Catholics have ripped and derided Fr. Corapi is what
they mean by charity … then they need to go back to catechism 101.
I find it singularly interesting that none of them go out of their way to lay out full
disclosure … meaning … they don’t say repeatedly that they draw their paychecks directly
from the establishment Church or live off it on the fringes through broadcasts or writings
or being invited onto the public speaking circuit.
They are disingenuous at best to not fess up to that.
Here’s a clear picture. Corapi … among many things he said in the past … pointed out the
corruption in the Church. He unabashedly talked about the angry homosexual subculture
that controls so much of what goes on.
He blasted unfaithful bishops … meaning not only the obvious ones but also the ones who
quietly and cowardly sit back and let heterodoxy and heresy spread unchecked.
It isn’t a stretch of the imagination to conclude many of the enemies he made and noses
he got out of joint among the bishops and their lapdog media lackies are glad to see all of
this going on.
And now … the professional Catholics on the internet … are piling on … first stating their
supposed concern and prayers for Fr. John and then launching into a stream of criticism
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that they themselves would wither under.
No matter what Fr. Corapi has done … and no matter how he responded … it is absolutely
certain that there are many who are quietly enjoying this sad case. As far as they are
concerned … one of their opponents is now gone.
And many of those who are quietly happy about it are making their views known through
websites with Catholic “celebrities” who have spared no time excoriating Corpai …
demanding he respond as Padre Pio did which is to suffer in silence.
One professional Catholic even went so far as to insist that Corapi adopt the attitude of
St. Thomas Aquinas and shut up.
That’s all well and good … and we should model the saints but it’s the tone they use in
saying it. Not to mention the overt hypocrisy.
While they insist that Corpai become an instant model of sanctity … a good number of
these professional Catholic celebrities are among the most back-biting spite filled
individuals you will ever encounter in private.
They have no business removing the splinter from Corpai’s eye until they remove not the
plank … but the FOREST from their own.
I don’t know the details of what went on in the curious case of Corpai nor do I fully
understand exactly what is going on right now.
What I do know is that the professional Catholics on the internet who have extremely
close ties to the very people who Corpai tore into need to be a bit more upfront about
their close ties.
They need to stop slamming Corapi … enough is enough … and start turning their invective
toward the people destroying the Church form the inside … and they could have the
courage and grace to start with the influential people at whose table they are happy to sit
and feather their own nests and fatten their own bellies in the process.
And while they are blasting Fr. Corapi for his approach … they might recall that Our
Blessed Lord saved his most extreme language for the professional crowd of religious
hypocrites.
“**But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites,
because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men:
for you yourselves do not enter in and those that are
going in, you suffer not to enter. [Mt. 23:13]
**GOD Love you.
I’m Michael Voris
realcatholictv.com/free/index.php?vidID=vort-2011-06-23
 
Um, what does “they don’t say repeatedly that they draw their paychecks directly
from the establishment Church” mean?
 
Shoshana said:
Corapi and the Blogs
Vort-2011-06-23
Hello everyone … and welcome to the Vortex … where lies and falsehoods are trapped and
exposed … I’m Michael Voris.
Fr. Corapi and his decisions and recent actions are NOT the topic of this Vortex. What IS
the topic is the Catholic Media’s response to his actions.
The sanctimonious and self-righteous condemnation of Fr. John Corapi is frankly
disgusting.
And let me be very clear … this is not a defense or condemnation of his actions.
Frankly … I don’t know enough about the case to have an opinion. There are lots and lots
of unanswered questions.
But again … his actions and decisions are not the topic here today. The tone of the
“professional Catholics” on the internet however is.
And yes … we said TONE. Faithful orthodox Catholics who are sick of the corruption in
the hierarchy . sexual … financial and political … are constantly being slammed for the
amorphous TONE issue … as in too much Clarity but not enough Charity.
Well … if how these professional Catholics have ripped and derided Fr. Corapi is what
they mean by charity … then they need to go back to catechism 101.
I find it singularly interesting that none of them go out of their way to lay out full
disclosure … meaning … they don’t say repeatedly that they draw their paychecks directly
from the establishment Church or live off it on the fringes through broadcasts or writings
or being invited onto the public speaking circuit.
They are disingenuous at best to not fess up to that.
Here’s a clear picture. Corapi … among many things he said in the past … pointed out the
corruption in the Church. He unabashedly talked about the angry homosexual subculture
that controls so much of what goes on.
He blasted unfaithful bishops … meaning not only the obvious ones but also the ones who
quietly and cowardly sit back and let heterodoxy and heresy spread unchecked.
It isn’t a stretch of the imagination to conclude many of the enemies he made and noses
he got out of joint among the bishops and their lapdog media lackies are glad to see all of
this going on.
And now … the professional Catholics on the internet … are piling on … first stating their
supposed concern and prayers for Fr. John and then launching into a stream of criticism
1
that they themselves would wither under.
No matter what Fr. Corapi has done … and no matter how he responded … it is absolutely
certain that there are many who are quietly enjoying this sad case. As far as they are
concerned … one of their opponents is now gone.
And many of those who are quietly happy about it are making their views known through
websites with Catholic “celebrities” who have spared no time excoriating Corpai …
demanding he respond as Padre Pio did which is to suffer in silence.
One professional Catholic even went so far as to insist that Corapi adopt the attitude of
St. Thomas Aquinas and shut up.
That’s all well and good … and we should model the saints but it’s the tone they use in
saying it. Not to mention the overt hypocrisy.
While they insist that Corpai become an instant model of sanctity … a good number of
these professional Catholic celebrities are among the most back-biting spite filled
individuals you will ever encounter in private.
They have no business removing the splinter from Corpai’s eye until they remove not the
plank … but the FOREST from their own.
I don’t know the details of what went on in the curious case of Corpai nor do I fully
understand exactly what is going on right now.
What I do know is that the professional Catholics on the internet who have extremely
close ties to the very people who Corpai tore into need to be a bit more upfront about
their close ties.
They need to stop slamming Corapi … enough is enough … and start turning their invective
toward the people destroying the Church form the inside … and they could have the
courage and grace to start with the influential people at whose table they are happy to sit
and feather their own nests and fatten their own bellies in the process.
And while they are blasting Fr. Corapi for his approach … they might recall that Our
Blessed Lord saved his most extreme language for the professional crowd of religious
hypocrites.
“**But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites,
because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men:
for you yourselves do not enter in and those that are
going in, you suffer not to enter. [Mt. 23:13]
**GOD Love you.
I’m Michael Voris
realcatholictv.com/free/index.php?vidID=vort-2011-06-23
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Mr. Voris,

How much money do you make by attacking our Bishops?

People have the right to defend Holy Mother Church.

You have the freedom to attack her. Please do not worry about our Bishops bringing down our Church from within.

Matthew 16:18

And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
 
So with the latest update do any experts here know the answer to the question that was posted below?
  1. I have requested laicization/I am going to be laicized.
  2. I have not requested laicization/I am NOT going to be laicized.
?

What does it all mean?
 
dfp42 said:
So with the latest update do any experts here know the answer to the question that was posted below?
  1. I have requested laicization/I am going to be laicized.
  2. I have not requested laicization/I am NOT going to be laicized.
?

What does it all mean?
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In all the statements and stories I have seen, the only thing I have seen in regards to laicization is from the statement from Corapi’s religious order:

The SOLT will do all within its power to assist Fr. Corapi if he desires to seek a dispensation from his rights and obligations as a priest and as a professed member of the SOLT.

Thus, I would not presume anything at this point. We simply do not know.
 
He is still vague, but that is his choice. To be laicised means you can marry but if that isn’t a desire for the future, I have heard of priests not functioning and not laicized. We had one have a disagreement with his bishop and leave to go to another state, he doesn’t belong to a parish, but is able to help at masses from what I hear.

I don’t know how 3 months is so long, but maybe he didn’t want to postpone his law suit which it sounds like they wanted him to do.

Guess, months from now, more will be known.
 
This whole affair has become a circus. Enough with the division of Corapi supporters vs. Church supporters. These arguments become emotional and inevitably lose focus. This leads to speculation and prognosticating and uncharitable remarks. Instead, I think it’s important that we just look at what we do know, based on public facts:
  1. Father Corapi was suspended from his public ministry pending outcome of the investigation.
  2. Father Corapi had already secured non-disclosure agreements with his employees, prior to this situation emerging.
  3. The investigation requires taking depositions of potential witnesses either supporting or contradicting the accuser.
  4. After the investigation began, Father Corapi filed a lawsuit against the accuser for breach of contract, most likely sending a very strong warning shot to other employees who had also signed NDA’s.
  5. The inability to secure interviews with others witnesses severely (fatally?) impaired the diocesan investigation, which now became a case of he said/she said.
  6. Four months into the investigation, Father Corapi announces he is permanently removing himself from public ministry (as opposed to being “indefinitely” suspended during the investigation), thereby nullifying the investigation by SOLT.
  7. Father Corapi directs followers to his new website, and declares that he is formerly known as “Father” Corapi, now the black sheepdog.
  8. Father Corapi reveals that it was on the advice of his canon lawyers and his advisors (Fr. Flanagan and the retired bishop of Corpus Christie) to file the breach of contract lawsuit (most likely in anticipation of leaving the priesthood and bringing the SOLT investigation to a halt.)
  9. Father Corapi complains that the deck is stacked against him, the process is too slow, he was being stonewalled by SOLT’s lawyers, and he had no choice but to premptively de-rail it,
  10. Father Corapi castigates the bishops.
  11. Father Corapi says follow the bishops.
  12. Father Corapi says he wishes only well for his accuser.
  13. Father Corapi lashes out at his accuser as a whack-job “alcoholic”.
  14. Father Corapi states that the Sacramental aspect of his priesthood was miniscule, and so, his work will not be impacted by the situation in the long run.
  15. Father Corapi challenges rumor-mongers to a $100,000 urine test wager, and boasts he can back it up with a check immediately, if he fails.
  16. Father Corapi promises to release audio phone messages proving his accuser is unstable.
  17. Father Corapi states that he is not leaving the priesthood, even though he has already conceded he does not need to perform any Sacraments (which are essential to the priesthood. In fact, the only thing he cannot leave is being a “priest”.)
  18. Father Corapi says he won’t release the audio messages.
  19. Skeptical followers of the situation are labeled as judgmental and cruel; it is presumed by outspoken supporters that there is no truth to the charges
  20. Father Corapi (presumably?) has the power to release his other employees from their NDA’s for the sake of giving testimony to the diocese, by amending the contracts. (His lawyers might think otherwise).
  21. Father Corapi has not released anyone from their NDA for this purpose, even though his innocence and his accuser’s “illness” can be corroborated under such circumstances, if true.
  22. Scandalous information about his accusers begins to leak on the Internet. Speculation begins (with relative certainty) on exactly who the accuser is and their personal failings.
  23. Father Corapi has still not appeared, except in audio.
  24. The retired bishop of Corpus Christie advocates that his supporters turn on his successor bishop and write the papal nuncio; he applauds Father Corapi’s legal activities and opines that the canonical process is deeply flawed in most dioceses.
  25. Four gentlemen supporters of Father Corapi launch an impassioned plea on YouTube that he will do the right thing and, in humble obedience, return to his community.
  26. Father Corapi insists he is always a priest, still Catholic, and only looking to continue sharing his gifts in whatever forum is feasible. He promises to release un-answered letters to the investigating lawyers, as well as further clarification of what his new appellation means.
These are substantially the facts to date. Let us pray fo Father Corapi, the bishops, and his accuser, that it is always the narrow path which is taken.
 
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