Fr. McBrien on 60 Minutes

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Did anyone see Fr. McBrien’s (of Notre Dame) horrible remarks on 60 Minutes tonight concerning women and married men to the priesthood and also how he belittled the Pope by saying that he was just a man that should have a term limit. How are we (the good Catholics) going to survive, especially now that Pope John Paul II is gone, when Satan is so easily in the mouths of these so-called priests?
 
Well, first of all we contact Notre Dame and the responsible bishop and complain – we have a right to do that under Canon Law.
 
Funny you should say that, I just sent an e-mail to Father McBrien himself stating more-or-less, that he should be-careful the way he guides people and if I were him I would fear excommunication.
 
Yup! I thought he was disgusting…eluding to next pope will have to start thinking about married priests, ordaining women, etc, ect, and terms of office!!!:eek:
When is someone going to censure him anyway???
He was awful!!!
 
Why should we be surprised? 60 minutes is on CBS {Catholic Bashing Station}. They are always drawn to the most liberal Catholics they can find and they got it with Father McBrien. Yes we need to stand up and say that Father McBrien is speaking his own opinion and that we think he is in the wrong and we should pray for him also.
 
We, the people, already are censoring 60 Minutes and Fr. McBrien. He is old and tired and getting to sound like a broken record. When will 60 Minutes learn? We have to boycott them. They really aren’t a friend to us as Catholics, and well we know how they feel about the United States. Why does anyone still watch them? Gee, when the Pope died did any of you really wonder what Dan Rather thought of the Pope?

The fact that they made sure to find a dissenting Catholic priest to comment, well that tells me what they think of my faith. Does the word Bias ring true? Where have I heard that before? Read the book and then tell me you watch 60 Minutes. It is not only a waste, it is a crime.
 
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Gee, when the Pope died did any of you really wonder what Dan Rather thought of the Pope?
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:rotfl: He’s one of the first to come to mind!!!
 
I was sucked into the first story about JPII’s soldiers. They had great future priests on there talking about how wonderful the Pope was and how they will keep his strong moral outlook alive because of his daily influence on them. One seminarian even was so wonderful to point out the fact that there have only been two Popes named “Great”, Pius and Gregory, and that John Paul will and should be given that title. 60 Minutes was so close… and then McBrien :banghead:
 
vern humphrey:
Well, first of all we contact Notre Dame and the responsible bishop and complain – we have a right to do that under Canon Law.
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Who is the responsible bishop in this case? Would it be the one in South Bend or the one from whose diocese McBrien comes (some New England one, I think)?

I, for one, have worn out my fingers emailing O’Reilly about him and emailing Donohue about Mort Kondrake. I admire the Catholic League, but if they don’t act on Kondrake, I really will cease to support them financially.

What else can one do? Send boycott letters to sponsors? Well, I suppose so. :banghead:

Anna
 
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msproule:
Funny you should say that, I just sent an e-mail to Father McBrien himself stating more-or-less, that he should be-careful the way he guides people and if I were him I would fear excommunication.
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Unfortunately, those are exactly the kind of people who will not consider what you say and will not respond to you. They are so caught up in their own importance that nothing else is noticed.
 
I agree, Fr McBrien is not the greatest spokes person on Catholicism but who do you think the liberal media will call on when they want one?

After saying that I must now reply on something I have seen in many of these replies.

The ordination of married men to the priesthood is a discipline, yes in the Latin Church it is a long standing one, but it is in no way a tradition from the beginning.

The Eastern Churches have always had a married clergy. This is our tradition and we are starting to return to it here in the USA now.

That being said, I am against the Latin Church changing this. I am for upholding tradition. In the Eastern Churches that is a married priesthood, in the Latin Church that is a celibate priesthood.

It just seems that some here think that the married priesthood is something more than just a discipline.
 
I wouldn’t bother contacting The Most Rev. John M. D’Arcy here in Ft. Wayne/South Bend unless you’re going to organizing a massive campaign that would force him to act. I’m not sure, but I think as the local ordinary he does have some power over universities in his diocese. A possibly (although not probably) more fruitful avenue would be to contact his own ordinary in Connecticut(?). Of course if I were his bishop I’d probably be grateful to have a rogue priest off my hands and in Notre Dame’s hair. If he revokes his permission to teach here he’ll have to do something with him back home, after all.
 
I just saw Father McBrien on 60 minutes. I thought that what he said was just fine. Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t mean you have to put him down. I thought Father McBrien looked happy, peaceful, and joyful - the fruits of the Spirit.

Maybe some of the people on this forum don’t understand that the Church has had married priests in the past (many centuries ago), and has some married priests right now (Episcopalian priests who switched denominations). The Church has within its power to allow married priests without violating any moral law. There is a strong tradition for an all-male priesthood, so the Church probably isn’t going to have women priests any time soon (if ever). If someone speculates about the possibility of female priests, it means that he/she has a different opinion than you do. It doesn’t make them a terrible sinner who should be scorned.

I think he also mentioned that birth control is the least of the Church’s problems. Well, he may be right about that, I don’t know. If birth control was central to our faith, you would think that Jesus or Saint Paul would have said something about it. It is my understanding that a large percentage of Catholics don’t obey the birth control rules, but I don’t know for sure. In any case, the man is a priest and he deserves some respect from us.

In short, I think that Father McBrien did a fine job on 60 minutes.
 
I had to laugh I was reading the CNN webiste and it referenced Fr MacBrien as a dissident theologian. I mean even the liberals at CNN have figured out this guy as having very little to do with real catholicism. Unfortunately they and MSNBC actually talk to this guy but at least CNN has some level of truth in advertising.
 
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I just saw Father McBrien on 60 minutes. I thought that what he said was just fine. Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t mean you have to put him down. I thought Father McBrien looked happy, peaceful, and joyful - the fruits of the Spirit.

Maybe some of the people on this forum don’t understand that the Church has had married priests in the past (many centuries ago), and has some married priests right now (Episcopalian priests who switched denominations). The Church has within its power to allow married priests without violating any moral law. There is a strong tradition for an all-male priesthood, so the Church probably isn’t going to have women priests any time soon (if ever). If someone speculates about the possibility of female priests, it means that he/she has a different opinion than you do. It doesn’t make them a terrible sinner who should be scorned.

I think he also mentioned that birth control is the least of the Church’s problems. Well, he may be right about that, I don’t know. If birth control was central to our faith, you would think that Jesus or Saint Paul would have said something about it. It is my understanding that a large percentage of Catholics don’t obey the birth control rules, but I don’t know for sure. In any case, the man is a priest and he deserves some respect from us.

In short, I think that Father McBrien did a fine job on 60 minutes.
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Whenever a person dissents againts Divine Revelation, that person, by definition, is a sinner. One cannot oppose God and be said not to be in a state of sin. Least there be any doubt about advocating that women should be ordained is sinful, STUDY what the Church has declared on the subject.

CONCERNING THE TEACHING CONTAINED IN ORDINATIO SACERDOTALIS RESPONSUM AD DUBIUM

Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

October 28, 1995

Dubium: Whether the teaching that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women, which is presented in the Apostolic Letter Ordinatio Sacerdotalis to be held definitively, is to be understood as belonging to the deposit of faith.

Responsum: In the affirmative.

This teaching requires definitive assent, since, founded on the written Word of God, and from the beginning constantly preserved and applied in the Tradition of the Church, it has been set forth infallibly by the ordinary and universal Magisterium (cf. Second Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church Lumen Gentium 25, 2). Thus, in the present circumstances, the Roman Pontiff, exercising his proper office of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32), has handed on this same teaching by a formal declaration, explicitly stating what is to be held always, everywhere, and by all, as belonging to the deposit of the faith.

The Sovereign Pontiff John Paul II, at the Audience granted to the undersigned Cardinal Prefect, approved this Reply, adopted in the ordinary session of this Congregation, and ordered it to be published.

Rome, from the offices of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, on the Feast of the Apostles SS. Simon and Jude, October 28, 1995.

Joseph Card. Ratzinger
Prefect

Tarcisio Bertone
Archbishop Emeritus of Vercelli
 
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msproule:
Please be aware, the views expressed are those of msproule’s wife and are not necessarily the way he would word them 😃 .
Did anyone see Fr. McBrien’s (of Notre Dame) horrible remarks on 60 Minutes tonight concerning women and married men to the priesthood and also how he belittled the Pope by saying that he was just a man that should have a term limit. How are we (the good Catholics) going to survive, especially now that Pope John Paul II is gone, when Satan is so easily in the mouths of these so-called priests?
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I cannot believe that this hack has not been silenced or disciplined by his bishop. You wonder why everyone considers the American Catholic Church a rogue element of Catholicism. WHERE IS THE PASTORAL LEADERSHIP OF OUR BISHOPS? Our country needs about 20-30 more leaders like Archbishop Chaput.
 
We need “Dial-an-Inquisition”. Get behind me on this one, guys 😛

That’s it, I’m going to get together with my artist brother and see if I can make a t-shirt with this concept 😃
 
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We need “Dial-an-Inquisition”. Get behind me on this one, guys 😛

That’s it, I’m going to get together with my artist brother and see if I can make a t-shirt with this concept 😃
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I wish the Holy See would institute an Inquisition in the American Church.
 
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Listener:
I just saw Father McBrien on 60 minutes. I thought that what he said was just fine. Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t mean you have to put him down. I thought Father McBrien looked happy, peaceful, and joyful - the fruits of the Spirit.

Maybe some of the people on this forum don’t understand that the Church has had married priests in the past (many centuries ago), and has some married priests right now (Episcopalian priests who switched denominations). The Church has within its power to allow married priests without violating any moral law. There is a strong tradition for an all-male priesthood, so the Church probably isn’t going to have women priests any time soon (if ever). If someone speculates about the possibility of female priests, it means that he/she has a different opinion than you do. It doesn’t make them a terrible sinner who should be scorned.

I think he also mentioned that birth control is the least of the Church’s problems. Well, he may be right about that, I don’t know. If birth control was central to our faith, you would think that Jesus or Saint Paul would have said something about it. It is my understanding that a large percentage of Catholics don’t obey the birth control rules, but I don’t know for sure. In any case, the man is a priest and he deserves some respect from us.

In short, I think that Father McBrien did a fine job on 60 minutes.
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He is a well known traitor and should have been formally excommunicated decades ago.
 
In reply to Listener, why should I have respect for a man that has no respect for the Church, JPII, or Christ’s teachings. Just because he is a priest doesn’t demand that of me. All priest’s have my respect from the beginning because they enter into a very strict profession, one of the hardest in the world…defending the faith. Fr. McBrien did not defend the faith on 60 Minutes. He made it easier for non-Catholics’s or people who should not be Catholic to put our faith down, thus losing my respect. As for the married priest thing, I ment being a priest and then getting married. A priest who is married prior to entering the church, I believe (correct me if I am wrong), has to still take the same vow of celebacy. That is what I am defending. A man that is a priest and then is allowed to married doesn’t make any since.
 
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