Fr. Raymond Gravel is suing Life Site News

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I’d have to read all the facts first. It makes me a bit sad when priests sue people, because I thought we are supposed to “turn the other cheek”.
 
He has been reported to be a dissident Priest. He is up in Canada and has received quite a bit of media attention. I am asking the question because my first inclination is to contribute to Life site news for their defense, yet I wonder if that is ethical. I would like to see what the CAF community has to say about it.
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It looks to me like life site news is using a rather frivolous lawsuit as a fund-raising vehicle. I seriously doubt a lawsuit based on being called pro-abortion when you consider yourself to be pro-choice is going to have much traction
 
Should christians sue other christians? Are we told how to handle disputes ?
 
It looks to me like life site news is using a rather frivolous lawsuit as a fund-raising vehicle. I seriously doubt a lawsuit based on being called pro-abortion when you consider yourself to be pro-choice is going to have much traction
It is still going to cost a lot to fight it, even if it is thrown out of court.

Here are some more related links:
catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=40380
youtube.com/watch?v=137COGlAHQw
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Gravel
 
It looks to me like life site news is using a rather frivolous lawsuit as a fund-raising vehicle. I seriously doubt a lawsuit based on being called pro-abortion when you consider yourself to be pro-choice is going to have much traction
Unfortunately many “frivolous” lawsuits are successful. In addition, this lawsuit is taking place in Canada where this priest apparently is a “rock-star” of the left. A liberal anti-Catholic judge may well levy a decision against what appears to be a pro-life advocacy news group.

Yes it is possible that this could be a fund-raising tool. Either way, most of these pro-life organizations are operating day to day on nothing more than a shoestring budget.
 
If you find LSN to be a worthy apostolate, there’s nothing to prevent a Catholic from contributing to them financially, even if it is to fund this lawsuit. If a priest were suing them for something legitimate, then it might be a different story.

I am not a fan of LSN, but that is a bit of a ridiculous law suit. It does seem they are using the law suit as a fund-raising vehicle. Not that they’re not genuinely scared. Maybe they are. However, I cannot imagine this law suit making it very far. But then again maybe the Canadian courts will surprise me. 🤷
 
If you find LSN to be a worthy apostolate, there’s nothing to prevent a Catholic from contributing to them financially, even if it is to fund this lawsuit. If a priest were suing them for something legitimate, then it might be a different story.

I am not a fan of LSN, but that is a bit of a ridiculous law suit. It does seem they are using the law suit as a fund-raising vehicle. Not that they’re not genuinely scared. Maybe they are. However, I cannot imagine this law suit making it very far. But then again maybe the Canadian courts will surprise me. 🤷
Why not a fan of LSN?
 
If you find LSN to be a worthy apostolate, there’s nothing to prevent a Catholic from contributing to them financially, even if it is to fund this lawsuit. If a priest were suing them for something legitimate, then it might be a different story.

I am not a fan of LSN, but that is a bit of a ridiculous law suit. It does seem they are using the law suit as a fund-raising vehicle. Not that they’re not genuinely scared. Maybe they are. However, I cannot imagine this law suit making it very far. But then again maybe the Canadian courts will surprise me. 🤷
This lawsuit is frivolous but that doesn’t mean it can’t be won for Gravel. Consider this case in the US:
This year’s runaway First Place Stella Award winner was Mrs. Merv
Grazinski, of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, who purchased a new 32-foot
Winnebago motor home. On her first trip home, from an OU football game,
having driven on to the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and
calmly left the driver’s seat to go to the back of the Winnebago to make
herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the freeway,
crashed and overturned. Also not surprisingly, Mrs. Grazinski sued
Winnebago for not putting in the owner’s manual that she couldn’t actually
leave the driver’s seat while the cruise control was set. The Oklahoma jury
awarded her, are you sitting down, $1,750,000 PLUS a new m otor home.
Winnebago actually changed their manuals as a result of this suit, just in
case Mrs. Grazinski has any relatives who might also buy a motor home.
 
That’s a great example of the insanity that takes place in our “justice” system.:whacky:
 
His face in that photograph reminds me of that of Mayor Frank Jackson of Cleveland. Anyway, this case does seem to be rather frivolous. That being said, I hope that this lawsuit is an attempt to restore his honor rather than just to get a lot of money. I also hope that he can curb his apparent arrogance; he obviously has a problem with obedience.
 
Why not a fan of LSN?
I don’t want to take the thread far off topic or start a debate, but since you’re the OP, I’ll answer your question. 🙂

I very much appreciate their mission to give more widespread exposure to life issues in the media. It is very much needed. But I have found some of their articles to be misleading, and at times, a bit too harsh concerning the bishops.

Now, if I lived in Canada and had to go through some of what they have had to go through, I might feel differently!

That’s just my opinion, though. Maybe I just caught a few bad articles, or maybe they’re getting better. That’s entirely possible.
 
This lawsuit is frivolous but that doesn’t mean it can’t be won for Gravel. Consider this case in the US:
I think you are quoting from one of those “tall tale” emails which circulate around the internet for months or years at a time, getting forwarded (and enhanced) repeatedly by those eager to support its views.

Snopes.com cites the origin of this particular false tale going back more than a decade.
snopes.com/autos/techno/cruise.asp

Reportedly, it was tacked onto a list of other false stories about lawsuits.
 
I think you are quoting from one of those “tall tale” emails which circulate among the web for months or years at a time, getting forwarded (and enhanced) repeatedly.

Snopes.com cites its origins going back more than a decade.
snopes.com/autos/techno/cruise.asp
You know what? I hope I am wrong on this. I would much prefer it as I can’t see how any sane person could award that verdict for it!!
 
I don’t want to take the thread far off topic or start a debate, but since you’re the OP, I’ll answer your question. 🙂

I very much appreciate their mission to give more widespread exposure to life issues in the media. It is very much needed. But I have found some of their articles to be misleading, and at times, a bit too harsh concerning the bishops.

Now, if I lived in Canada and had to go through some of what they have had to go through, I might feel differently!

That’s just my opinion, though. Maybe I just caught a few bad articles, or maybe they’re getting better. That’s entirely possible.
I appreciate your feedback because the purpose of the thread. For my benefit and for others participating in this discussion, I am interested in your observation. However, I am compelled to ask will you please site specific examples of their misleading?
 
FYI I’ve been hearing the RV cruise control story on RV forums for about 8 years now! Totally phony.

Also don’t go believing the one that always pops up when gas prices spike up that has the street punk attempting to start siphoning gas from an RV only to find he’s sucking out of the sewage tank… 😛
 
I appreciate your feedback because the purpose of the thread. For my benefit and for others participating in this discussion, I am interested in your observation. However, I am compelled to ask will you please site specific examples of their misleading?
The example that always springs to mind first (and yes, it’s a bit of a trivial example) is their coverage of Pope Opposes Harry Potter Novels. It always irks me when the secular media tries to inflate every offhanded, out-of-context remark the Pope ever said as being some sort of dogmatic pronouncement, but to see a Catholic news outlet make the same blunder bugs me all the more. Jimmy Akin has a couple articles that do a good job of articulating why LSN was off base in this instance (LifeSiteNews Calls Kettle Black and Pre-16 on Harry Potter).

I don’t care in the least that they don’t like Harry Potter or even that they think Harry Potter is dangerous. But when they start taking the pope’s words out of context and ascribing to him sentiments which he never intended to express, it bothers me greatly.
 
The example that always springs to mind first (and yes, it’s a bit of a trivial example) is their coverage of Pope Opposes Harry Potter Novels. It always irks me when the secular media tries to inflate every offhanded, out-of-context remark the Pope ever said as being some sort of dogmatic pronouncement, but to see a Catholic news outlet make the same blunder bugs me all the more. Jimmy Akin has a couple articles that do a good job of articulating why LSN was off base in this instance (LifeSiteNews Calls Kettle Black and Pre-16 on Harry Potter).

I don’t care in the least that they don’t like Harry Potter or even that they think Harry Potter is dangerous. But when they start taking the pope’s words out of context and ascribing to him sentiments which he never intended to express, it bothers me greatly.
Thank you for enlightening me. I very much respect Jimmy Akin. I am not sure if that one article from 2005 outweighs their overall mission but thanks for pointing it out none the less.
 
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