Francis urges priests not to push cohabiting couples away

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What I would really like to discuss is what does the Pope mean when he says this:
The Pope told priests they should welcome couples that live together and championed the courageous and creative choices involved in going out to the “existential peripheries”, RomaSette says in its article. But the truth factor is crucial here. “The truth must always be told,” not just in the dogmatic sense of the world but in the sense of “love and God’s fullness”. The priest must “accompany” people.
 
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What I would really like to discuss is what does the Pope mean when he says this:
It simply means to go out and invite them into the Church fully and not to block their return. living together is not a death sentence. He is saying to be open and invite them home! Praise God!!! He in no way is saying cohabitation is okay or that the Church will endorse the life style.
 
It’s very similar to comments Pope Benedict made about those who are divorced and remarried without an annulment. Even though they can’t partake of the Eucharist, they should be welcomed to Church and gently encouraged to regularize their situation.
 
It’s very similar to comments Pope Benedict made about those who are divorced and remarried without an annulment. Even though they can’t partake of the Eucharist, they should be welcomed to Church and gently encouraged to regularize their situation.
Unfortunately they’ll see it as an invitation to the Eucharist.
 
Unfortunately they’ll see it as an invitation to the Eucharist.
Not if they are invited with truth and love. Pope Francis stated that the “truth must be told”. This is not rocket science, just meet them where they are as Jesus did with the woman at the well, then as He did, lift them out of the situation. Love can change hearts, truth will save souls!
 
I’m having a very hard time believing that priests are telling the divorced and cohabiting couples they are beyond redemption and permanently excommunicated.
 
Hopefully the Pope will open the Eucharist to divorced and remarried couples, who have a desire to get closer to Jesus.

It makes no sense to use the sacrament as a whipping tool to make people conform.

But that’s just me.

Jim
 
Hopefully the Pope will open the Eucharist to divorced and remarried couples, who have a desire to get closer to Jesus.

It makes no sense to use the sacrament as a whipping tool to make people conform.

But that’s just me.

Jim
First of all, it isn’t necessary to receive Holy Communion when one attends Mass.

Second of all, if there has been no annulment, how could they be admitted to holy communion in the state of adultery? There are many things that would follow from that…for instance, all people with un-absolved sins of adultery would also have to be admitted to communion, and if that is allowed, then all with unabsolved sins of fornication would also be admitted, and the list goes on…

I think he is referring to types of approaches and how to help those in this situation to participate more fully (even if not in the fullest sense) in the life of the Church.

That’s just my opinion. I guess we will see what he means not too far in the future.
 
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First of all, it isn’t necessary to receive Holy Communion when one attends Mass.
But it’s a great blessing when you do.
Second of all, if there has been no annulment, how could they be admitted to holy communion in the state of adultery?
Probably not committing adultery. Especially a couple who have been married for over thirty years. Either way, not for us to decide.
There are many things that would follow from that…for instance, all people with un-absolved sins of adultery would also have to be admitted to communion, and if that is allowed, then all with unabsolved sins of fornication would also be admitted, and the list goes on…
I think he is referring to types of approaches and how to help those in this situation to participate more fully (even if not in the fullest sense) in the life of the Church.
That’s just my opinion. I guess we will see what he means not too far in the future.
So you’re saying that all couples who divorced and then remarried without an annulment, are committing fornication ?

I see their situation as inordinate and one that needs to be made right. But I think Pope Francis is look at the path to help these people to come back in full union with the Church.

God Bless Pope Francis.

Jim
 
So you’re saying that all couples who divorced and then remarried without an annulment, are committing fornication ?

I see their situation as inordinate and one that needs to be made right.
It’s both, unless of course the spouse has died. But you are right to say that Francis is telling priests to focus on how to heal the situation rather than harp on the faults.
 
Just another example of great progressive ideals this Pope, and the Church, espouses!

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It simply means to go out and invite them into the Church fully and not to block their return. living together is not a death sentence. He is saying to be open and invite them home! Praise God!!! He in no way is saying cohabitation is okay or that the Church will endorse the life style.
They wont see it as that, they’ll see it as condoning what they’re doing. If they’re cohabitating then they’re already not educated in the faith, so they’ll go up and receive communion even though they’re in sin.
 
They wont see it as that, they’ll see it as condoning what they’re doing. If they’re cohabitating then they’re already not educated in the faith, so they’ll go up and receive communion even though they’re in sin.
I’m one of those ministers whom Pope Francis is speaking, I handle marriage prep and many other parish ministry issues, if a couple in this situation does not know the full truth after we meet then shame on me and I truly will bare the fault for leading them to sin by receiving when they should not.

Pope Francis did not say in any of his statements to change or forget about truth, he actually said truth must be shared.

Besides, what would you like priests, deacons and bishops to do, not invite sinners back? You do realize this would exclude me and you also, right?
 
Just another example of great progressive ideals this Pope, and the Church, espouses!

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The Pope is not progressive, please don’t pollute his statements with simple politics. The Church is not right nor left; She is center.
 
It simply means to go out and invite them into the Church fully and not to block their return. living together is not a death sentence. He is saying to be open and invite them home! Praise God!!! He in no way is saying cohabitation is okay or that the Church will endorse the life style.
Where does repentence come in?
 
This statement is no different that what Jesus taught that a good shepherd does. He leaves the 99 and chases after the one. Pastorally, while a priest is not to deny the truth, speaking about fornication upon learning of a couple’s condition is not going to bring the sheep back. What Pope Francis said is, "Sanctity is stronger than scandal.” Use the attraction of holiness and let the Holy Spirit bring a couple like this through their sin and back into full fellowship. When one thinks about it, this is no different than what we all face. Unfortunately, we are too quick to rate the sins of others as rock barriers and look are our own sin with more mercy. Yet we are all on the same pilgrimage.
 
This statement is no different that what Jesus taught that a good shepherd does. He leaves the 99 and chases after the one. Pastorally, while a priest is not to deny the truth, speaking about fornication upon learning of a couple’s condition is not going to bring the sheep back. What Pope Francis said is, "Sanctity is stronger than scandal.” Use the attraction of holiness and let the Holy Spirit bring a couple like this through their sin and back into full fellowship. When one thinks about it, this is no different than what we all face. Unfortunately, we are too quick to rate the sins of others as rock barriers and look are our own sin with more mercy. Yet we are all on the same pilgrimage.
I’m not saying don’t go after them. You obviously have to go after them to tell them to repent. When Jesus went after the lost sheep, He didn’t mince words about what the sinner needs to do.
 
I’m not saying don’t go after them. You obviously have to go after them to tell them to repent. When Jesus went after the lost sheep, He didn’t mince words about what the sinner needs to do.
A priest does not “tell them to repent” at least in the manner such a short four word directive indicates. The Pope said do not push them away. He is the boss. He is also wiser than your average street corner preacher. He is said that holiness is stronger. Teach holiness. Teach reconciliation. Teach Church doctrine. Jesus never first said to repent. Even the most poignant example of the woman caught in adultery, he first helped her in her trouble. Then he showed mercy. Third, he told her to go an sin no more. All this was done* after* establishing himself as a friend to sinners, a feeder of the hungry, a healer of the sick and a teacher of truth.
When Jesus went after the lost sheep
:confused: In the parable, Jesus did not say what should be said or how it should be said. I do not know what you mean “mince words”, but Jesus did not always speak directly. He was not a street corner preacher yelling at passer-bys to repent. I can see that the Holy Father has found a good topic that needs to be taught to the “elder son.”

From the Holy Father’s interview
The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently.
nytimes.com/2013/09/20/world/europe/pope-bluntly-faults-churchs-focus-on-gays-and-abortion.html?_r=1&

Pope Francis is trying to offer us instruction grounded in prudence on the right way of evangelizing without ostracizing.
 
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