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starshiptrooper
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I agree however I would substitute ‘matriarchal’ for ‘patriarchal’. Patriarchy is what we have had for most of history and it works.
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mikekle
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If this or anything similar ever became law, christians could no longer justify paying taxes.
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Regular_Atheist
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Could you elaborate? What demographic are you referring to here? Are young people more likely to support the criminalization of abortion?
What? Free childbirth would definitely benefit a lot of men as well, namely those men who have sexual relationships with women and become fathers. Having a child certainly shouldn’t be financially crippling, and I would have thought somebody like you would understand that. It’s not a good way to promote childbirth.
This post just comes across as you being bitter towards women.
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friardchips
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Apparently, in the U.K, taxes do go towards funding abortion because the NHS carry out 98% of procedures.
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friardchips
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Sorry, my bad: In the UK, taxes go towards abortion, because 98% of abortions were funded by the NHS.
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TheAmazingGrace
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They never will. Abortion/infanticide has been around since the beginning of time.
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TheAmazingGrace
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Nobody’s saying anything about endless handouts.
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Sarcelle
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So is theft but you don’t see people pushing to make and keep it legal because people will continue to keep stealing.
You can say the same about murder.
Speaking of murder, why is it okay to kill the most defenseless of humans?
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randomuser
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Well, if there’s no maternity coverage for the mother and she could lose her job for choosing life, how is that not killing the most defenseless of humans? The phrase “most defenseless of humans” gets tossed around a lot, and yet, it’s nothing but crickets chirping when it comes to things like infant mortality rate and the increasingly expensive costs of delivery – which are unavoidable sanctity of life issues.
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Luke6_37
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How can you blame women when lesbian sex doesn’t produce children.
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ATraveller
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Adding to friardchips, you could theoretically justify it right now. Unjustifiable wars, unnecessary subsidies to certain corporations, ‘free’ condoms and so on.
The funny thing is Christians are told they should have no say on how ‘government funds’ should be spent but they have absolutely no qualms on seizing it from us. It’s like the ‘government’s money’ comes from a magic money tree (to borrow that from the UK’s recent election) and the government is some entity completely independent of only religious citizens. They tell us religious morals have no role in politics as they cheerfully watch the state confiscate a portion of your earnings.
I used ‘seizing’ and ‘confiscate’ because that’s what it’s starting to become. I don’t encourage people to not pay their taxes or tax evasion in anyway, I’m simply describing what this process is morphing into.
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friardchips
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You are absolutely right. Good post, IMO.
With that in mind, it would be wrong to cause civil unrest, in the form of rebellion. Yet, it is not the Church who is in rebellion, but rather, the state. Therefore, people would be quite entitled to stop paying taxes, objectively, out of civil (peaceful protest) duty. Not that I am saying to tax evade. I mean, transparently, in protest. Furthermore, there being probably over 1.2 billion Catholics now, worldwide, not to mention all the other people who are pro-life, or rather, more simply put, not part of the death-culture, would equal quite an outspoken majority opposition if everyone got it together to oppose, and we would be justified in our claim to choose (peacefully) where taxes are to be spent; in fact, I am surprised that we are all so silent compared to the justice we have on our side. The state, who allows abortion, are in a state of rebellion against life, and are not justified in being where they are, because position comes with the responsibility to serve and protect; not kill, indiscriminately. Abortion is a most disgusting abomination. To protest worldwide would be ‘just-defense’ against unjust aggressors. Of course, the ideal is that people learn to see that abortion is wrong, for themselves, and yet, if people were to wait that long, then the tally would carry on increasing, in the meantime. Aztecs would sacrifice millions of lives, including babies, but at least they thought they were reaching God. What is the excuse given from our rebellious leaders who don’t care about the opinions of their own citizens whose claim is righteousness as their appeal. Who is their sacrifice made to?
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josh987654321
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The Earth, fueled by dubious climate change predictions, it’s all about de-population, through contraception, abortion, euthanasia and making it harder for anyone else to have children.
This is why I have no sympathy for those who espouse climate change and are silent on the murderous practices of abortion and euthanasia.
“for the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.”
I hope this has helped
God Bless You
Thank you for reading
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Luke6_37
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The Jews felt the same way about Rome, but Jesus said to pay your taxes, even though the money went towards the military, the worship of false gods and the spread of Roman culture which commonly practiced infanticide, pederasty, and live pornography as entertainment.
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friardchips
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Sure, Jesus did say that money was tainted, but I am not sure that there aren’t contextual issues here. Romans, and those they conquered, didn’t necessarily know that their taxes were going on such things. Nowadays, we are talking about people who pay taxes - who know their taxes are going towards funding abortion - having to go against their enlightened consciences. And it is not necessarily the case that taxes went towards some of those things you have mentioned, in Biblical times. Tax-funding for the military is not wrong. Military presence is required in order to defend one’s position. Also, the Romans didn’t believe in God as we do or as the Jews did. We have to deduce sensibly where the line is. Modern television, the Internet and films coming out of Hollywood, contain vile content, but does that mean taxes ought to not go towards funding the media and arts. No, because these are general subjects. We live in a world in which we know for certain, by following trails, with information that is made widely known to us and is easily accessible, that money goes directly towards certain things. And because we know this, that makes us partly responsible. Also, I doubt taxes went towards some of those things you listed, because accounts would have to have been made, for how the taxes were being spent. That is not to say that Roman leaders did not use taxes for their own entertainment but that it wouldn’t have been the norm. It would have been more likely that they used their own personal wealth for such things. Leaders have to be trusted and so this is why taxes have to be paid. There is room for personal and even government error, but for abortion to be legal, and for people to know and to continue without complaint, is another matter. We are talking about mass-culling (as another poster helpfully stated).
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mikekle
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Actually Jesus told them to ‘give caesar what is caesars and God what is Gods’, in other words, give Caesar only what he is due not everything he asks, big difference.
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St_Pancake
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It would be great if not having sex was easy but it is incredibly obvious that is not true.
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St_Pancake
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They can’t continue to insult our intelligence and claim to be the enlightened ones when it is them that so obviously ignores science.
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St_Francis
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Abstaining from sex is difficult, but so is raising a child. Life is filled with difficult things that we need to learn to deal with, and that is what helps us to become mature adults.
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St_Pancake
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No offense but I do believe that what you suggest isn’t practical. Recorded history is filled with tales of the mighty and the weak that could not properly control their sexuality. It is not “extremely easy” to refrain from sex for whatever reasons.
People will get pregnant. The best thing that can happen is that they will be born to be cared for.
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