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annad347
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Okay… 890
Meaning?..Lunam_Meam:
Okay… 890Again, one can know, and many do know that mankind is not coerced, because God gave man His image and likeness: the soul(Gen. 1:27, 5:1, Wis. 2:23). It is an unquestionable sign of His Most Holy Paternity that shows signs of the qualities characteristic of Him Who creates it. It is therefore intelligent, spiritual, immortal, free like the Father Who created it. Free as in “not subject to the control or domination of another”.
If you disagree on the characteristics of the soul, feel free to explain why.Lunam_Meam:
Okay…Again, one can know, and many do know that mankind is not coerced, because God gave man His image and likeness: the soul (Gen. 1:27, 5:1, Wis. 2:23). It is an unquestionable sign of His Most Holy Paternity that shows signs of the qualities characteristic of Him Who creates it. It is therefore intelligent, spiritual, immortal, free like the Father Who created it. Free as in “not subject to the control or domination of another”.
You are correct @annad347, Catholic theology proves it.Any choice we make is all be part of God’s plan… because He is always in control. Thank God.
Confusing. If our will [desire] is free, then you can’t also say it’s controlled. Furthermore, the soul is the unquestionable sign of His Most Holy Paternity that shows signs of the qualities characteristic of Him Who creates it. Upon being created it’s therefore intelligent, spiritual, immortal, free like the Father Who created it. Free as in “not subject to the control or domination of another”. So, if after God created our free soul He decided to control, or force it, then what is the point of having a soul, which is God’s image and likeness (Gen. 1:27, 5:1, Wis. 2:23), or existing at all?…as for the characteristics of the soul, we all have one, we are given free will to make choices…
Any choice we make is all be part of God’s plan… because He is always in control.
To see what we do.…then what is the point of having a soul, which is God’s image and likeness (Gen. 1:27, 5:1, Wis. 2:23), or existing at all?
God gave man His image and likeness: the soul (Gen. 1:27, 5:1, Wis. 2:23). It is an unquestionable sign of His Most Holy Paternity that shows signs of the qualities characteristic of Him Who creates it. It is therefore intelligent, spiritual, immortal, free like the Father Who created it. Free as in “not subject to the control or domination of another”.Is there an explicit verse in the Bible that states we have free will?
You may be someone who needs to read “mankind has free will”, but you also need to realize there’s more than one way to say something.Lunam_Meam:
Not explicit.God gave man His image and likeness: the soul (Gen. 1:27, 5:1, Wis. 2:23). It is an unquestionable sign of His Most Holy Paternity that shows signs of the qualities characteristic of Him Who creates it. It is therefore intelligent, spiritual, immortal, free like the Father Who created it. Free as in “not subject to the control or domination of another”.
Could God coerce (force) our will? Yes, but He chooses not to, because to do so would be to put disorder into His own ordered Thought, by no longer wanting what He previously wanted: free will. There would be no merit if there were coercion.
I think that the idea itself that man could not have a free will came up much later in history in philosophical setting. I think that the first idea everyone has intuitively about oneself is that we have a free will, and the fact that the Bible does not mention explicitly free will is due to the fact that it was taken for granted.Is there an explicit verse in the Bible that states we have free will?
You are correct @RootKitWarrior.Not explicit. sorry no dice.
God gave man His image and likeness: the soul (Gen. 1:27, 5:1, Wis. 2:23). It is an unquestionable sign of His Most Holy Paternity that shows signs of the qualities characteristic of Him Who creates it. It is therefore intelligent, spiritual, immortal, free like the Father Who created it. Free as in “not subject to the control or domination of another”.In Catholic Theology there are two types of free will.
Libertarian free will and aided free will.