Freemasonry Conspiracies

[2towers]

Well you might want to come down here and tell him that. I guess he missed the memo.

 

[Wic]

The story doesn’t seem right but I’m sure we can find examples of Catholics acting out of turn or doing something contrary to the Church.

 

[Augustinian]

I have been asked several times by individual Masons…a couple suggesting how good it is for business. No thanks, I won’t join anything if I can’t find out what it is about before joining. It has its roots in the building of Solomons temple. Hiram, from Abiff, a master mason supposedly murdered one night and came back to life. The new recruit goes through the re-enactment of the murder and resurrection on initiation night.

Actually, freemasonry has its roots in the 16th century in Great Britain. Nothing to do with Solomon or the Holy Land

 

[Saxum]

Actually, freemasonry has its roots in the 16th century in Great Britain. Nothing to do with Solomon or the Holy Land

Freemasonry has nothing to do with Christianity. The ideology of the organisation is based on religious indifferentism. It teaches that man can be saved without Jesus Christ and his Church. In Catholic nations, it has always operated as organised opposition against the Church. This is why the Catholic Church has constantly spoken out against this sect. If freemasonry was harmless, the Popes would not have consistently condemned it.

 

[Wannano]

Wannano:

I have been asked several times by individual Masons…a couple suggesting how good it is for business. No thanks, I won’t join anything if I can’t find out what it is about before joining. It has its roots in the building of Solomons temple. Hiram, from Abiff, a master mason supposedly murdered one night and came back to life. The new recruit goes through the re-enactment of the murder and resurrection on initiation night.

Actually, freemasonry has its roots in the 16th century in Great Britain. Nothing to do with Solomon or the Holy Land

Well that is very interesting because I have personally had Masons tell me that it is based on what I said …and with the hopeful expectation that it would be acceptable to religious people. I have a book that is written by a former Mason who went through the ranks to the top and he also shares that info.

 

[Wannano]

The story doesn’t seem right but I’m sure we can find examples of Catholics acting out of turn or doing something contrary to the Church.

Speaking of which…I know a man in our community very well, and he is Catholic, and even more confusing…he is a Mason.

 

[Ann_Stanton]

Which branch of masonry? There are three types that I know about. My paternal grandfather was a Mason and a Shriner before his death in the 1980’s.

 

[ZMystiCat]

The story doesn’t seem right but I’m sure we can find examples of Catholics acting out of turn or doing something contrary to the Church.

I heard that there was a man in our parish’s Knights of Columbus who was a Mason. He kept trying to get KofC to have get-togethers with the Masons. According to the person I heard this from, the members of KofC weren’t sure if this was allowed, so they went to the priest. The priest took the guy aside and basically explained that he had to choose between the Church and the Masons. Thankfully, the guy chose to remain in communion with the Church.

 

[Wannano]

Wannano:

The story doesn’t seem right but I’m sure we can find examples of Catholics acting out of turn or doing something contrary to the Church.

I heard that there was a man in our parish’s Knights of Columbus who was a Mason. He kept trying to get KofC to have get-togethers with the Masons. According to the person I heard this from, the members of KofC weren’t sure if this was allowed, so they went to the priest. The priest took the guy aside and basically explained that he had to choose between the Church and the Masons. Thankfully, the guy chose to remain in communion with the Church.

Definitely a better bet!

 

[Wannano]

Which branch of masonry? There are three types that I know about. My paternal grandfather was a Mason and a Shriner before his death in the 1980’s.

I don’t claim to be an expert but I have had several conversations with individual Masons. Either you are Freemason or you’re not, there is varying degrees of Masonry. Shriners are all Masons but not all Masons are Shriners, just like all Knights of Columbus are Catholic but not all Catholics are Knights.

 

[2towers]

I looked and couldn’t find any ad asking for people to join Freemasonry so I do not believe there is such a video.

Then look again, but if I see you calling Irishmom2 or anyone else in this thread a liar, youll be discussing it with the moderators.

 

[pnewton]

Are you saying he is a liar for saying he cannot find such an ad? Of course not. “Liar” is not a word that should be used casually, especially when it does not apply. It is not too much to ask for one to post evidence of a statement, though such a demanding tone should have been avoided. It puts people off.

Maybe the confusion came from this ad:

One can always search himself. I came up with zip, which proves little, except maybe if they do exist they aren’t very common. (Avocados from Mexico!)

 

[2towers]

Are you saying he is a liar for saying he cannot find such an ad?

Ahhh, I just noticed. Both of us are guilty of misreading here. I was not calling WIC a liar, I was calling out WIC for calling someone else a liar.

 

[pnewton]

i know you didn’t. He did not lie. He said he could not find that ad. That is nothing but a statement of his experience. I too found no such ad, so I think such ads are very rare indeed.

 

[2towers]

They should not. It may seem like a lot of nonsense to you, but they should not.

Papal ban of Freemasonry - Wikipedia

I have seen nothing from the Holy See that says the prohibition to join freemasonry has been lifted. The desire to become Catholic should not come with caveats. Why would someone who knows how most Catholics and Catholic Clergy feel and say about this issue put up their desire to be a mason over that of being a Catholic? You should read what the Saints have written about Freemasons, not to mention past Popes.

 

[Wic]

I don’t know what the problem is, I asked for the proof, the video…nothing was posted. I couldn’t find it. Can anyone else find the video?

 

[Irishmom2]

What are you searching under? Go to YouTube. Type Freemason tv ad in the search bar. Take your pick.

 

[Augustinian]

The Catholic Church first prohibited Catholics from membership in Masonic organizations and other secret societies in 1738.

Certainly a clue as to when freemasonry started. If the lodges were started during antiquity at the Solomon temple building, the Church would have commented on it long before 1738.

 

[Wic]

I wasn’t able to find any Masonic ad asking people to join. At this point, it no longer matters, we are just flogging a dead horse.

 

[Augustinian]

I wasn’t able to find any Masonic ad asking people to join.

There was a billboard on Josephine St. here in Pittsburgh touting Masonic membership.

I have no idea how “kosher” it was to Masonic “ideals”, but it seems obvious that membership in the lodges has plummeted over the years. But that’s the same with a lot of fraternal outfits. It seems like a lot fewer KofC councils have bar rooms than they did back in the day.