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VWcrazy
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This is a false belief.
The LDS Church wasn’t founded by Jesus but by Joseph Smith.
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The LDS Church wasn’t founded by Jesus but by Joseph Smith.
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VWcrazy
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HUH??? That statement makes no sense.
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zerinus
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Sir_Knight
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And how does it trace it’s origins back to Peter and the Apostles and at what point did the Catholic church become invalid?
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ralphinal
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It is the flip of the parable: he who was given much and was faithful was rewarded.
I would guess that zerinus was kindly pointing out that we are apostate as well. Much was given to the early church and they squandered it.
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zerinus
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The authority was restored to the LDS Church by revelation and ministration of angels.
See here.
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catharina
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Did your brain go into melt-down as you were second-guessing zerinus? Really?
The very fact that we are here, Catholics by Faith, is prrof that the Church squandered nothing!
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catharina
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That would be because the Word of Jesus failed?
Fascinating - or something like that.
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zerinus
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Sir_Knight
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If it had to be RESTORED, then that implies that it was lost in the first place but it couldn’t have been lost because Jesus promised that the “gates of hell” and the “power of death” would not overcome it – meaning that it could not go astray.
The entire LDS religion is based on the belief that Jesus FAILED to keep that promise. And if that is the case, why bother believing anything else that God says – if one promise COULD be false, so could other promises.
How does the LDS reconcile that?
It doesn’t say. It just says that it happened over a period of time but as I said above, if it did happen, then that would mean that Jesus lied to us.
As a Catholic, I am not willing to accept that but in order to accept their faith, that is exactly what Mormons HAVE TO accept – otherwise there would be no reason why the Catholic faith was the one true church established by Christ.
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zerinus
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The Blog post I had given you does answer that question. You did not read it carefully enough.
It does, you did not read it carefully enough. See above. If you read to the end of the article, the last two objections I had answered, Objections 6 and 7, address your specific question. These two posts also partly addresses your question.
zerinus.blogspot.com/2007/08/upon-this-rock-i-will-build-my-church.html
zerinus.blogspot.com/2007/07/foundational-premise-of-mormonism.html
See above.
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catharina
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**Sir Knight - exactly! You said it all so well.
For LSD to exist, there must be a rejection of Our Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Father, Savior of the world. LDS deems Him to be a failed liar, One Who broke His promise to be with His Church always. The basis of that cult is as simple as that.
(Regarding the comments to you from z, by way of “explanation,” you ‘didn’t read it carefully enough’ is pitiful and laughable.)**
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Two things:
- I’m also from Alabama and the Masons there are definitely 80% Klansmen or descendants of Klansmen
- Sir Knight, you definitely stated the major problem in the LDS church beliefs
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ralphinal
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Welcome to my fellow Alabamian. I have been saying that (Masons = Klan in Alabama) for days!!!
Where are you from?
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catharina
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… and in Chicago, masonry might as well be Klan
since it’s anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish and anti-black …
that equals the total Klan platform.
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Brazzy
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Mobile…yourself?
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ralphinal
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Near Birmingham. I live in Moody (just east), but I grew up in Trussville.
There are several Alabamians on here, but I think you are the first from the Port City. I am glad you are here.
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Sir_Knight
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And this link explains why the points made in your link are incorrect.
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zerinus
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I saw nothing in that article that refutes anything I had said. I only saw in it blatant falsehood about what Mormons believe. That is the best that Catholic Answers can do.
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