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tomarin
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I wonder were the killers French citizens? What a horrible story - that poor priest killed like an animal while celebrating mass. This makes my blood boil.
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Padres1969
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They yelled ‘Daesh’ before they attacked the priest? Daesh typically hates that term for their organization. That alone means this is likely copycat killers. :sad_yes:telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/26/two-men-with-knifes-take-hostages-in-normandy-church/
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The men shouted “Daesh” and cut the priest’s throat before being “neutralised,” police said.*
"The unspeakable has happened"
“The unspeakable has happened,” the archbishop of Rouen Dominique Lebrun said in reaction to the attack in Normandy.
Pope 'shares in grief and horror of this violence’
Father Federico Lombardi, head of the Vatican press office, has issued a statement about the attack.
“It’s terrible news that comes unfortunately after a number of violent attacks in recent days that have already upset us and created immense grief and concern,” he said.
"The Pope has been informed and shares in the grief and horror over this perverse violence, condemning in the most dramatic way every form of hatred and offering prayers for the people affected.
"We are particularly struck because this horrible violence, with the barbaric killing of a priest and the involvement of the faithful, happened in a church, a sacred place which stands for the love of God.
“We express our closeness to the church in France, the archdiocese of Rouen and affected community and to the French people.”
May the priest rest in peace and praying for the nun’s recovery.
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zz912
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Of course he’s a martyr. Muslims killed him because of his Christian faith, while he was saying Mass. It’s a clear case of martyrdom.This is so sad. I just wonder if this makes the priest a martyr or not.
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Adonia
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So Mr. Hollande says France is at war with ISIS, okay then, when will he be sending French ground troops and the rest of the French military to Syria to destroy them? Don’t hold your breath because we have heard though talk from him before and besides dropping a few bombs he has so far done nothing to prosecute this “war” of his.Francois Hollande says France is at war with ISIS after two Islamist knifemen butchered a French priest and left a nun fighting for her life before they were both shot dead by police in Normandy.
One of the men who stormed into the church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray near Rouen during mass was a 19-year-old French national, who was being monitored by electronic tag after being jailed for trying to join fanatics in Syria.
The 86-year-old priest, named as Jacques Hamel, was beheaded while a nun is critically injured in hospital following the raid which saw five people held hostage by ISIS assailants shouting Allahu Akbar.
This afternoon it emerged that the murdered clergyman was deputising while the parish priest was on holiday. French authorities say they have arrested a third man in connection with the attack.
The two killers were ‘neutralised’ by marksmen as they emerged from the building, which is now being searched for explosives. French president Hollande said France is ‘at war’ with ISIS while the terror group has claimed responsibility for the killing.
It comes as it emerged that the building was one of a number of Catholic churches on a terrorist ‘hit list’ found on a suspected ISIS extremist last April.
There are also reports that one of the attackers was a local resident who was under electronic tag surveillance having been jailed in France for trying to travel to Syria in 2015. His bail terms allowed him to be unsupervised between 8.30am and 12.30pm - the attack happened between 9am and 11am.
Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3708394/Two-men-armed-knives-people-hostage-French-church.html#ixzz4FWTu8jRF
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tomarin
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Right. Heavy on rhetoric, light on any meaningful action.So Mr. Hollande says France is at war with ISIS. Okay, when will he be sending French ground troops and the rest of the French military to Syria to destroy them? Don’t hold your breath because we have heard though talk from him before and besides dropping a few bombs nothing has happened.
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rmartensjr
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Attacking an elderly priest and defenseless nuns shows that these ISIS “fighters” are nothing but COWARDS.
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Entwhistler
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I wonder how long the French people will stand for these acts of violence before the government decides to do something useful.So Mr. Hollande says France is at war with ISIS, okay then, when will he be sending French ground troops and the rest of the French military to Syria to destroy them? Don’t hold your breath because we have heard though talk from him before and besides dropping a few bombs he has so far done nothing to prosecute this “war” of his.
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tomarin
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All of these terrorists are.Attacking an elderly priest and defenseless nuns shows that these ISIS “fighters” are nothing but COWARDS.
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Padres1969
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Most of these attacks aren’t being carried out by foreigners, but by citizens. Tight borders might stop new trouble from arriving, but much of it appears home grown as well.It’s just going to keep happening. And if Poland, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Hungary, etc open there borders it’s going to happen to them too.
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zamyrabyrd
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Hungary got it right - to be kind (to their own citizens) sometimes is to seem cruel (to the unfiltered mob at the gates).It’s just going to keep happening. And if Poland, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Hungary, etc open there borders it’s going to happen to them too.
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redbaron162
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This is why I advocate to carry at Mass (and anywhere else for that matter) .
I believe many Mexicans had to carry weapons to church to protect the church during the Cristada War
I believe many Mexicans had to carry weapons to church to protect the church during the Cristada War
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queenofheartscv
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What is daesh?They yelled ‘Daesh’ before they attacked the priest? Daesh typically hates that term for their organization. That alone means this is likely copycat killers. :sad_yes:
May the priest rest in peace and praying for the nun’s recovery.
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zamyrabyrd
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Right, they are called “knife wielding teen” or “French and Belgian citizens” until we find out they were shouting “Allah Akbar”. Meanwhile CNN, BBC, etc., are scratching their heads to figure out the motives.Most of these attacks aren’t being carried out by foreigners, but by citizens. Tight borders might stop new trouble from arriving, but much of it appears home grown as well.
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GEddie
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Those are for the French Government, and the Vatican, respectively to decide.Just awful . … perhaps it is time for France to let citizens own guns for self defense and concealed carry
Rip father Jacques. He is truly a martyr
May LORD have mercy on all involved.
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GEddie
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It is always animal to be killed. Death is the biggest thing we share with the animals.I wonder were the killers French citizens? What a horrible story - that poor priest killed like an animal while celebrating mass. This makes my blood boil.
But in this case, the Padre shared this indignity with our LORD Himself.
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Seamus_L
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This is becoming the new normal for Western Europe. This isn’t all that’s going on in France at the moment, they’ve just had several nights of violence in immigrant communities with cars and even buildings being torched over the death of an African by the name of Adama Traore in police custody. I think it’s time the police were issued shoot to kill orders for anyone throwing a fire bomb, but I expect alot of innocent people will have to die first before people come to there senses.
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Pope condemns ‘absurd violence’ after priest is killed in French church
Vatican City, Jul 26, 2016 / 07:27 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Pope Francis has decried the “absurd violence” which has left an elderly priest dead after his church in northern France was taken hostage during Mass.
In a statement released Tuesday by the Vatican, the Pope, having been informed of the situation, “participates in the pain and horror of this absurd violence,” while radically condemning “every form of hatred.”
The statement said the pontiff is praying for those affected by the tragedy, which took place in the Normandy region, adding that the Vatican is following the situation.
Fr. Jacques Hamel, 84, was killed Tuesday after two armed gunmen stormed a church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray during Mass, the BBC reports. The assailants entered the church and took the celebrating priest and four others hostage.
The BBC further cites police sources which say the priest’s throat was slit in the attack.
Reuters reports that both of the hostage takers were shot dead by police. Authorities say one of the hostages has been critically wounded, the BBC reports.
According to the ISIS-linked Amaq news agency, the assailants were “two soldiers of the Islamic State,” the BBC reports.
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Vatican City, Jul 26, 2016 / 07:27 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Pope Francis has decried the “absurd violence” which has left an elderly priest dead after his church in northern France was taken hostage during Mass.
In a statement released Tuesday by the Vatican, the Pope, having been informed of the situation, “participates in the pain and horror of this absurd violence,” while radically condemning “every form of hatred.”
The statement said the pontiff is praying for those affected by the tragedy, which took place in the Normandy region, adding that the Vatican is following the situation.
Fr. Jacques Hamel, 84, was killed Tuesday after two armed gunmen stormed a church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray during Mass, the BBC reports. The assailants entered the church and took the celebrating priest and four others hostage.
The BBC further cites police sources which say the priest’s throat was slit in the attack.
Reuters reports that both of the hostage takers were shot dead by police. Authorities say one of the hostages has been critically wounded, the BBC reports.
According to the ISIS-linked Amaq news agency, the assailants were “two soldiers of the Islamic State,” the BBC reports.
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pepipop
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Not sure if this has been mentioned, below:
If they have a database of these fanatics, round them all up and then deport them. The problem is that most of the perpetrators have been nationals of the countries involved. But some of these, I believe, were also known to the police as having sympathies with ISIS.
*One of the men who stormed into the church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray near Rouen during mass was a local man, who was being monitored by electronic tag after being jailed for trying to join fanatics in Syria.
Mohammed Karabila, president of the Regional Council of the Muslim Faith for Haute-Normandie and head of the local Muslim cultural centre, said ‘the person that did this odious act is known, and he has been followed by the police for at least a year and a half.’
He said the attacker ‘went to Turkey and security services were alerted after this.’ He had no information about the second attacker.
Mr Karabila said he was ‘appalled by the death of his friend’ and hoped that interfaith dialogue in his region would not be damaged.
Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3708394/Two-men-armed-knives-people-hostage-French-church.html#ixzz4FWk12ZI4
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If they have a database of these fanatics, round them all up and then deport them. The problem is that most of the perpetrators have been nationals of the countries involved. But some of these, I believe, were also known to the police as having sympathies with ISIS.
*One of the men who stormed into the church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray near Rouen during mass was a local man, who was being monitored by electronic tag after being jailed for trying to join fanatics in Syria.
Mohammed Karabila, president of the Regional Council of the Muslim Faith for Haute-Normandie and head of the local Muslim cultural centre, said ‘the person that did this odious act is known, and he has been followed by the police for at least a year and a half.’
He said the attacker ‘went to Turkey and security services were alerted after this.’ He had no information about the second attacker.
Mr Karabila said he was ‘appalled by the death of his friend’ and hoped that interfaith dialogue in his region would not be damaged.
Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3708394/Two-men-armed-knives-people-hostage-French-church.html#ixzz4FWk12ZI4
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