Friends: help me know what to do with in-laws this x-mas

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Princess_Abby:
Sparkle,
If they are truly abusive and you know your husband will not defend nor protect you, then do not go and subject yourself to a toxic situation that will ruin your Christmas and emotionally harm you.
Is it worse to let your husband and children go over there by themselves, or is it worse to go with them?
If your husband isn’t going to be your protector in this situation, you need to protect yourself. You are not obligated to submit to him in situations that harm you. Your husband is not loving you as Christ loves the Church by asking you to submit to abuse and leaving you without support, compassion or protection.
It is time for you to get some backbone for yourself. Your husband is probably sick of hearing about how mistreated you are by his mother–so let him know that he’s right, as you are equally sick of being the one who is mistreated. Tell him that he is more than welcome to spend time with his mother on the holiday, and to take the children with him, but that you choose to not participate in unhealthy activities any more.
If your mother in law complains, just be honest. What have you got to lose anymore, anyway? I would not try to go into any major descriptions of how abused you feel, but if she calls and asks why you won’t be joining her for Christmas, I would just say “Because I choose not to.” And leave it at that. She can ponder all she wants to and ask again and again, but only reveal as much as you want to. Battling with her is a waste of time. Repeat the same phrase again and again until you’ve reached your tolerance and then politely end the conversation.
Make Christmas Eve and Christmas morning extremely special so that you feel you’ve had YOUR holiday as well. Go to mass together on Christmas Eve, come home and read a Christmas story (maybe even the REAL Christmas story, in the gospel, for reiteration :)), make hot chocolate and have everyone share a favorite memory from the last year. Or, play the “Remember when you were little…” game. (My parents do that with us, and tell the most hilarious stories from when my siblings and I were young. We all listen raptly and feel so special when our parents single each of us out for a special story-telling.) For Christmas day, wake up and open presents, etc., then make a special breakfast for your family.
When it is time for them to go to grandmother’s house, be generous in your spirit and wish them all a good time.
You mentioned being in counseling, and perhaps this issue will be worked out at a later date. But for now, please protect yourself. Everytime you submit to their abuse, it leaves your self-esteem even more torn up and your resentment toward your husband builds. He might be totally shocked that you are willing to stand up for yourself. If he learns by example, you might just find him standing up for you in the future. We teach people how to treat us!!! If we won’t accept bad behavior, they won’t dish it out.
Abby
Dear Abby:

YOU are so sweet to offer your response. I thank you so much. I’m just soooo sad to think if I don’t go, here I will sit on Christmas night *without *my family-- MY immediate family --my husband and my children–and who knows what they’ll be saying about me, my little children’s ears hearing it all–(“your mother has a problem”…)hubby just ignoring it, saying nothing. Suppose we could have our X-mas eve and we will, Mass and all, and make it very special but it just hurts my feelings so much to think hubby sides with his mom over me most the time. I could go to one of the many great movies playing that evening–and give an excuse like I don’t feel well enough to come–then sneak off to a movie. For afterall, it will ruin my Christmas completely to be over there, it will be like completely entering the snake pit. So in essence, I don’t feel well enough to be there, and enter the pit of abuse. My parents, my hubby loves and all my relatives, they adore him and are so sweet to them. My husband doesn’t have any relatives except his sick parents and one brother, who is also completely sick–a pot-head, had about 20 live-in girlfriends in the 16 years I’ve been married. X-mas is totally and utterly miserable over at their home. Abby: I will really take you up on your advice. Maybe we’ll have our own X-mas eve, and X-mas day–then let hubby and kids go to his parents on X-mas nite, and I’ll enjoy my solitude and a movie alone. I don’t see anything at all wrong with this alternative.

Thx again~~
 
So many people have such good advice. What keeps nagging at me is that despite what the secular world tells us, the real meaning of Christmas is not family (big pet peeve of mine :mad: ) Clearly it is the Christian thing to do to show love to your family, but it bugs me that this obligation to “be together” is always on Christmas Day, not the day after etc. And often this being together keeps us from focusing on the incarnation rather than celebrating it. I’d say start a tradition of showing love to the poor on Christmas or doing something Christlike for a stranger etc, and have the family visit some other day. But obviously there is already a plan to go to the in laws.

If you decide to go and if you set a time limit, is your husband likely to try to stretch that out once you’re there? If so, make a plan for something you have to do afterwards, so you have a reason to leave on time.

If you don’t go, rather that framing it as you NOT doing what the rest of your family is doing, see it as you DOING something extra for Christmas that they aren’t doing. Do you have the opportunity to go to a Church and pray in front of the blessed sacrament? What about a special rosary or other prayer? Or dedicate an hour of prayer (while your family is gone) for the sake of your mother in law? I find that time alone with the Lord is really needed for me to appreciate Him. Maybe this time alone with him is the perfect way for YOU to celebrate His coming into the world, especially after working so hard to make the holiday special and holy for your family.

Saying a prayer now for you all. God Bless You.
TKC
 
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Sparkle:
… Well, surely we all know it is HIS problem first and foremost, …
😦

Sparkle,

Taking this approach will not help you, your husband, your marriage or your family. Ultimately, focusing on who’s to blame, unless you are focusing on yourself, whom you can change, will do nothing for you. I am not saying you must accept blame, but placing it on anyone else puts the situation outside of your reach to change. The only person you can change is yourself. Others may change as a result of your change but you can’t even count on that.

One problem I have with the lastest edition of Facinating Womanhood, they focus too much on do this and the result will be that, rather than do this because it’s the right thing to do, as taught in scripture.

Lily,

I’m sorry you don’t understand where BLB and I are coming from regarding the reality of joining in the sacrifice of Christ. No, you don’t have to look for ways to put yourself in harms way, but when it comes to you, how you respond is up to you. And having a family that is difficult falls under “it comes to you”. We don’t avoid our families except in the most extreme cases, and being nasty, especially that ugly subtle nastiness described here, isn’t something I recommend avoiding. If it were a stranger or even a “friend,” moving on would most likely be the correct thing to do, but God gives us our family and He knows better than we do what we need to learn for our salvation.

In “Welcome to Carmel” a book I’ve been studying in group, there is an entire chapter devoted to challenges one might encounter with family, especially when one becomes more religious than their family members. Remember, the devil seeks to disrupt the lives of those who grow close to God. If he can’t work on us, he’ll try to get to us through our families. So what you’re encountering is in no way unusual.

Here are a few quotes from the chapter titled “Opposition - How Do You Cope?” in the section “So How Do We Respond?”

"Most of us like to see ourselves responding to opposition … calm, dignified, spiritual, and noble. …
    • …begin by being totally honest… see our own flaws and be open to the elements of truth in what the other one says…
    • …pray during the “storm” …don’t ask for God’s help in beating down your opponent. God loves him too. … This brief prayer … will help you make a stand in a truly spiritual direction … at least one tiny part of you belongs to God and NOT to your raging emotions. … your commitment to God in stress, will grow
    • Try to “respond,” not react impulsively. … weigh the situation. … I may grow to a wise response.
    • … you’re human, … commend your weaknesses to God. … think in terms of starting over again. … “Progress consists in making new beginnings.”
    • Try not to plan your strategy of conflict. …
    • St. Therese of Lisieux … had a very bad temper. … When she was just about ready to explode and couldn’t hold back any longer, … she always ran. “… My last plank of salvation was in flight…”
    • …Don’t preach… Jesus sent us to serve, not to straighten others out. … “When I am willful and noisily busy about my holiness, I am unable to lilsten to either the egocentric rumblings within me or the silent voice of grace at the core of my being…”
    • … In time, selfless (not selfish) love conquers all.
    • When the storm subsides, always remember to forgive… “Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us”
    • Finally, be aware that, as strange as it may sound, this is part of your purification. …
    I hope this helps. I’ve been trying to put some of this into action in my own life and my own circumstances. It hasn’t changed those with whom I’m in conflict, but boy has it finally begun to change me. I’m feeling OK about myself, even when I’m in the middle of the storm, with others thinking that I’m still holding onto old hurts or expectations. I’m letting go much more quickly and I’m not feeling the junky emotions begin to well up. I hope it works for you.

    Go get’um! 🙂

    CARose
 
Sparkle,

Instead of a movie, find a perpetual adoration chapel and go and pray before the Lord. You can pour out all your concerns to your loving Christ and he will make you feel peace. Also, you can pray for your mean MIL. It will help. In fact, maybe start a novena today for your MIL.

Don’t worry about your children hearing negative things about you from your MIL. Your kids know the truth and they will dislike their grandparents for what they say. Your kids, no matter how young, can see the Truth.

When I was young, we went to visit family for Thanksgiving (we did it every year). My Mom overheard my Dad’s family saying bad things about her. The tradition of spending Thanksgiving with my Dad’s family stopped that year. We loved having our own Thanksgiving without extended family. In fact, when I married and saw how my husband’s whole family got together each year, I thought THEY were weird.

I also grew up knowing to guard myself and my tongue around my Husband’s family because I knew that they thought ill of my Mom. It never made me feel bad about my Mom; I just felt bad about them.

Good luck.
 
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ThyKingdomCome:
So many people have such good advice. What keeps nagging at me is that despite what the secular world tells us, the real meaning of Christmas is not family (big pet peeve of mine :mad: ) Clearly it is the Christian thing to do to show love to your family, but it bugs me that this obligation to “be together” is always on Christmas Day, not the day after etc. And often this being together keeps us from focusing on the incarnation rather than celebrating it. I’d say start a tradition of showing love to the poor on Christmas or doing something Christlike for a stranger etc, and have the family visit some other day. But obviously there is already a plan to go to the in laws.
If you decide to go and if you set a time limit, is your husband likely to try to stretch that out once you’re there? If so, make a plan for something you have to do afterwards, so you have a reason to leave on time.
If you don’t go, rather that framing it as you NOT doing what the rest of your family is doing, see it as you DOING something extra for Christmas that they aren’t doing. Do you have the opportunity to go to a Church and pray in front of the blessed sacrament? What about a special rosary or other prayer? Or dedicate an hour of prayer (while your family is gone) for the sake of your mother in law? I find that time alone with the Lord is really needed for me to appreciate Him. Maybe this time alone with him is the perfect way for YOU to celebrate His coming into the world, especially after working so hard to make the holiday special and holy for your family.
Saying a prayer now for you all. God Bless You.
TKC
What an excellent idea and point TKC!!! There seem to be so many “obligations” at Christmas that it’s very easy to lose the whole sense of Christ’s beautiful presence in this world–and what it means to every person individually. I think I’ll really look for that Blessed Sacrament adoration on Christmas nite somewhere. You’re so right in that Christmas ultimately is NOT about pleasing our family as it is about recognizing the reason behind Christmas. WOW --your post was a first and I’m so thankful for it!!!

God Bless~~
 
Hi friends who replied to my question on this thread!

Just thought I’d keep you posted that I decided to go with hubby and kids to in-laws for Christmas dinner, despite their previous treatment of me. I knew what I was getting into. And despite the old dingy spotted card (not even a X-mas card) they gave me, (everyone else a nice one of course) and refusing to show me or or even lend me the videos my father-in-law took of my kids while they were babies, (very weird), it was bearable, at best. I did warn hubby that I would “give him the look” when it was time to go, and that I wanted HIM to be the one to announce it was time to leave, not me, which he did. I was happy about that. So…just thought I’d keep you all posted. Of course there was some other weird stuff said by my MIL, but I just blew it off my shoulder-----trying to have the most Christian attitude I could----knowing it’s the once a year cordial stuff you have to put up with, and after all, they are my hubby’s parents.

Thanks you guys for listening. Hope your X-mas’ were good!!!
 
Thanks so much for letting us know, Sparkle.
I’ve kept you in my thoughts and prayers ever since you posted this thread the first part of December. I knew you could pull it off with grace! As Christians we have to rise above the pettiness of people like your in-laws. I’m so glad to hear that your husband worked together with you on this. Keep setting the Christian example and God will bless you.
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sparkle:
Hi friends who replied to my question on this thread!

Just thought I’d keep you posted that I decided to go with hubby and kids to in-laws for Christmas dinner, despite their previous treatment of me. I knew what I was getting into. And despite the old dingy spotted card (not even a X-mas card) they gave me, (everyone else a nice one of course) and refusing to show me or or even lend me the videos my father-in-law took of my kids while they were babies, (very weird), it was bearable, at best. I did warn hubby that I would “give him the look” when it was time to go, and that I wanted HIM to be the one to announce it was time to leave, not me, which he did. I was happy about that. So…just thought I’d keep you all posted. Of course there was some other weird stuff said by my MIL, but I just blew it off my shoulder-----trying to have the most Christian attitude I could----knowing it’s the once a year cordial stuff you have to put up with, and after all, they are my hubby’s parents.

Thanks you guys for listening. Hope your X-mas’ were good!!!
 
It sounds like you made the best of what you had to work with, Sparkle. My MIL is similar to yours. I dreaded spending Christmas with her but grinned and beared it for my husband’s sake. She won’t even come over anymore or invite us over since my husband decided to leave the family farm almost 3 years ago. She blames me and barely talks to me and only talks to him when he calls her. The kids have become delivery boys for Christmas presents. She won’t talk to me but still gives me Christmas “presents” (my mother taught me never to criticize gifts from anyone so I won’t.)

I’ve just decided (after my priest suggested it) to pray for her and my BIL and his wife (her oldest son who can do no wrong and also won’t speak to either of us). I only want everyone to get along for my husbands sake and would dread anymore family get-togethers with them but would put up with it if they ever decide to include us again. Before the rift they were never very welcoming to me because I wasn’t born and raised on a farm - I was a “town” girl (even though I always lived in the country.)

I would recommend praying for her and continue to put up with family obligations for your husband’s sake. Offer it up and when you emerge without allowing her to get the better of you, you will feel like you survived the battle and can move on.
 
Good thing I didn’t find this until after Christmas, Sparkle. I think I would have suggested getting one of those neat plastic gardening sheds, such as the ones at Sam’s Club, and a portable heater for your in-laws. It would’ve given them loads of room to do their own thing while anybody else who wanted to could be in the house, doing those fun things such as playing cards and watching movies. You could have run electricity via one of the Christmas light extension cords. If it was in the backyard, you could’ve run the hose into it for water.

I know, I know…Even the thought of it is totally uncharitable.😦 I wouldn’t have had the guts to do it to my in-laws, either.I think you did really well.
 
Dear Sparkle,

I’m so glad that things went as well as any of us could have expected. I am sure that it was because of your attitude, and I’d like to think it was also because you knew that we were all out here praying for you. The strength you showed in this will help you through other things, as well! Nice going! 👍

God bless, and Happy New Year, 🙂
Anna
 
I’m glad you were able to have a Christian attitude!
One comment though and please do not take the wrong way.

Never ever take Christ out of CHRISTmas by using X-mas. It is sublt and shorthanded, but serves the purpose of getting people to leave Christ out of the “holidays”.
 
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sparkle:
I did warn hubby that I would “give him the look” when it was time to go, and that I wanted HIM to be the one to announce it was time to leave, not me, which he did.
Now THIS is good news!
 
Sparkle,

I only just found your update on your holiday with the in-laws. I am so happy to learn that you went there and gave witness to what a wonderful daughter-in-law you really are, even when they are unable to recognize it. Good for you!

I hope you’re happy with yourself and how well you handled all the pettiness, with a much classier approach of solid Christian Charity. I hope that you find that each time you find yourself in this situation, while fully committed to coming through with your dignity intact through accepting whatever comes your way with Charity first and foremost, that it becomes increasingly easier to handle.

Congratuations on your excellent accomplishment.

CARose
 
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