future of the muslim religion

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Man’s hubris is such that he believes that there is some value in projecting far into the future the judgment of an unknown humanity based on a selective “look-back” at one narrow aspect of history.

My wife’s father witnessed in his lifetime the Wright Brothers’ first flight and man’s first walk on the moon - all in less than a century. We know that no one at that time envisaged the technological advances that would occur in less than 100 years or any of the great wars we witnessed including the Holocaust perpetrated on the Armenian and Assyrian Christians by Muslims in WWI or on the Jews by Nazis in WWII. So, any effort to make long-range predictions is a sterile endeavor.

Man is conditioned by his time and place. The reality of life and the mores of 400 years ago were not conditioned entirely by religion just as religious thought was not immune to the cultures and societies within which it operated.

The one constant in history is man. The one thing we know for certain is that man’s nature is sinful. Therefore, the history of man is as much about his successes as it is about his failures. Man’s inhumanity to man knows no bounds and no boundaries or borders and can be found in each and every religion.

So, where will Islam be in 400 years? While I don’t know, I can hope that it’s doctrine of forced conversion, the type of martyrdom we witness with terrorist acts, and other doctrines that denigrate non-Muslims will be seen as an aberration just as we see the acts of some of our co-religionists in the past as evil and unworthy by our understanding today.
 
So, where will Islam be in 400 years? While I don’t know, I can hope that it’s doctrine of forced conversion, the type of martyrdom we witness with terrorist acts, and other doctrines that denigrate non-Muslims will be seen as an aberration just as we see the acts of some of our co-religionists in the past as evil and unworthy by our understanding today.
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The present upsurge of the violence in conventional Muslim will die away and they would realize that Islam is a religion of peace. GodAllahYHWH has sent the PromisedMessiah 1835-1908 who has revived the peaceful teachings of Muhammad/Quran/Islam. The Muslims as also the non-Muslims will realize this thing and hence peace would prevail in this world within 200 hundred years from now.

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The only way that Mulsims will be seen that way is by non-Muslims who misunderstand history and completely bastardize the truth so that their understanding of the entire religion of Islam is based on the actions of individuals who act in its name, but are not officially sanctioned by the heads of the religion for the terrorist actions that have taken place when they kill in the name of religion.
It’s pretty hard to be sanctioned by non-extant persons… there is no single head of Islam
 
no it isn’t haha r u going to start that again? i swear you’ll make a muslim out of me yet!
You’ve posted thrice now since your return and offered nothing to the discussion - in an effort to show we’re not discussing things?

But you’re right, you’ve got till 12 October.
 
Number of Native Americans Catholics killed in South America alone during the Inquisition: 16 Million.
The number killed in the Inquisition is not anywhere near 2 million. During the entire 500 years of Inquisitions about 6,000 people died.
Can both of you show the sources for your claims?

And for me and many other people out there, the Conquistadors are largely the responsibility of the Roman Catholic Church. They are even a part of it.
 
Back to the OP then, yes I consider it quite likely that Islam has been painted unfavourably by anti Islamic people, and have no doubt that gullible people in the future will believe these claims and proclaim themselves experts on the ‘‘dark history’’ of Islam.
Painted unfavorably? For one, the draconian policies of Saudi Arabia, the center of Islam, is not a paint but a reality.
 
Painted unfavorably? For one, the draconian policies of Saudi Arabia, the center of Islam, is not a paint but a reality.
Yes but the prejudice many good Muslims have suffered is both unnecessary and unjustified.
 
Yes but the prejudice many good Muslims have suffered is both unnecessary and unjustified.
Its not entirely unjustified. Their prejudice of non-muslims in their own lands are worst. What goes around comes around. Its just the golden rule.
 
Its not entirely unjustified. Their prejudice of non-muslims in their own lands are worst. What goes around comes around. Its just the golden rule.
If its not entirely unjustified then its still somewhat unjustified yes?
Where is the justice in tarring all Muslims with one brush? It is as a result of these prejudices that a lot of evil acts are committed against Muslims, or ‘‘those percieved to be Muslims’’. Like those Sikh fellas killed in the wake of 9/11-their only crime? Beards, brown skin and a turban-the fact that they came from a completely different culture and religion didn’t help them, they fitted the bill.
 
If its not entirely unjustified then its still somewhat unjustified yes?
This is a gray region. Its not black & white.
Where is the justice in tarring all Muslims with one brush? It is as a result of these prejudices that a lot of evil acts are committed against Muslims, or ‘‘those percieved to be Muslims’’.
how much is ‘a lot’? if you think islamic terrorism is blown out of proportion, so much more is the ‘victimization’ of muslims. one thing is for sure, the oppression of muslims is not systematic. unlike what many muslim countries do to non-muslims in their midst.
 
This is a gray region. Its not black & white.

how much is ‘a lot’? if you think islamic terrorism is blown out of proportion, so much more is the ‘victimization’ of muslims. one thing is for sure, the oppression of muslims is not systematic. unlike what many muslim countries do to non-muslims in their midst.
While it may not be systematic, it is widespread. And wrong, that is not a ‘gray’ region, murdering a Sikh because he looks like your perception of a Muslim, is wrong, murdering a Muslim because his co religionists did something evil, is wrong. Whatever way you look at it, it is wrong to allow Muslims (or anybody) to be victimised based on the actions of a minority that they may have no connections with.
 
While it may not be systematic, it is widespread.
widespread? what do you mean? well islam & muslims are infamous, so low opinin of them is widespread… but the evil deeds against muslims, i dont think so. what makes you think to the contrary?
And wrong, that is not a ‘gray’ region, murdering a Sikh because he looks like your perception of a Muslim, is wrong, murdering a Muslim because his co religionists did something evil, is wrong.
how often does that happen?
Whatever way you look at it, it is wrong to allow Muslims (or anybody) to be victimised based on the actions of a minority that they may have no connections with.
of course. you are referring to actual deeds, and by that i agree with you. I am referring to public opinion.
 
widespread? what do you mean? well islam & muslims are infamous, so low opinin of them is widespread… but the evil deeds against muslims, i dont think so. what makes you think to the contrary?

how often does that happen?

of course. you are referring to actual deeds, and by that i agree with you. I am referring to public opinion.
Ah my mistake 🙂 . Well public opinion can be hard to change, and there has been a lot of propaganda involved in forming that opinion so its obviously not as bad as prejudiced action

For evidence to the contrary and examples of anti Muslim persecution etc give me a little while to find the right sites, I don’t happen to keep a library of information on persecution of Muslims handy.
 
Well public opinion can be hard to change, and there has been a lot of propaganda involved in forming that opinion so its obviously not as bad as prejudiced action
I agree.
For evidence to the contrary and examples of anti Muslim persecution etc give me a little while to find the right sites, I don’t happen to keep a library of information on persecution of Muslims handy.
no problem. 🙂
 
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