Gabrielle Giffords Endorses Clinton

[jcwit]

So about 3 times as many dead children a year than killed by Nuclear bombs in all of History-and of course that us only counting the US.

Well you did state “this country”, I take that to mean the U.S.

 

[Darryl1958]

Nuclear weapons and the mushroom clouds are understandably seen as the ultimate metaphor of nihilism and the death of life on earth, reducing the planet to where cockroaches are the highest life forms.

This is right and good, because that is the kind of possibility that was ushered in by the advent of the Nuclear Age.

Abortion will not destroy all life. Maybe, just maybe advanced societies will still be able to function and even prosper with a third of each generation being swept away into the sea of death.
I personally don’t think so, and I do think that there is a lot of common sense in the timeless Catholic teaching, that used to be the wisdom of any society, that children and sexuality are of the same essence.

But even if there is not this utilitarian aspect of common sense involved in Catholic teaching, to actually fathom the spiritual depravity of destroying a third of each generation before it has even been born is the definition of true horror.

If Democrats want to balance the horror of nuclear holocaust with the holocaust of abortion, it is worth noting that with the legitimization of an Islamist Bomb into the hands of the apocalyptic nihilists that run Iran by a Democratic administration demonstrates amply how leftist policy has failed on both fronts.

 

[steve_b]

As I’ve said probably more than 25 times now, I vote on more than just where a candidate stands on abortion. *I’m not an advocate of abortion, but I also don’t believe in taking away a Jewish woman’s right to have an abortion as sometimes mandated by her faith. *

Just so you know, if you really are opposed to advocating abortion then you can’t be an advocate for ANYONE having an abortion.

When Jesus was asked which is the great commandment , Jesus answered

(all emphasis mine)

Mt 22:
36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.”

Your position about the “Jewish woman” breaks the 2nd commandment.

• By not loving your neighbor (the Jewish woman) as yourself, (2nd commandment) you do NOT love God as God wants either (1st commandment). Both commandments get broken with your position on the 2nd commandment

L:

The US is not a theocracy. We can’t intrude on another faith just to advance our own.

even our government understands

EVERY person has the God given unalienable right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness

The Declaration of Independence states

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, …”

To highlight,

Our Declaration says

all people are equal.

Therefore, It is self evident, a child also has the God given unalienable right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

 

[steve_b]

As I’ve said probably more than 25 times now, I vote on more than just where a candidate stands on abortion. I’m not an advocate of abortion, but I also don’t believe in taking away a Jewish woman’s right to have an abortion as sometimes mandated by her faith.

That’s a contradiction of thought.

 

[Sy_Noe]

The U.S. does not have a “gun” problem. I has a people problem, family problem, drug problem, accepting responsibility problem, mothers without husbands problem, children without fathers problem, just to name a few.

Guns are not the problem.

Don’t believe it? Check out how many are killed because of drugs & alcohol.

I don’t see why just because there may be other problems, that it has to mean there is not a people with guns problem. I’m not talking about the right of people with guns to protect one’s self or property or to hunt a relation to “Bambi”. Although I personally have never owned a gun for those things. I’m talking for instance about guns such as military style assault weapons with multiple magazines that can be fired rapidly at the innocents murdered in mass shootings. I don’t see why anyone needs those types of guns. Irregardless of their mental state. I doubt the founders could even imagine the weaponry available today. And the argument that I have heard that we need them to protect ourselves from Obama or the government doesn’t hold much water for me. First of all Obama has less that a year remaining as our President. If he was going to go door to door to confiscate everyone’s guns, he probably would have started by now. That’s a lot of territory to be covered. And on top of that, unless people are going to arm themselves with tanks and nukes and so forth I don’t think their militias would stand much chance against the US military today. The idea that people need all these types of weapons is something I can’t grasp. But we can disagree. Peace.

 

[jcwit]

I don’t see why just because there may be other problems, that it has to mean there is not a people with guns problem. I’m not talking about the right of people with guns to protect one’s self or property or to hunt a relation to “Bambi”. Although I personally have never owned a gun for those things. I’m talking for instance about guns such as military style assault weapons with multiple magazines that can be fired rapidly at the innocents murdered in mass shootings. I don’t see why anyone needs those types of guns. Irregardless of their mental state. I doubt the founders could even imagine the weaponry available today. And the argument that I have heard that we need them to protect ourselves from Obama or the government doesn’t hold much water for me. First of all Obama has less that a year remaining as our President. If he was going to go door to door to confiscate everyone’s guns, he probably would have started by now. That’s a lot of territory to be covered. And on top of that, unless people are going to arm themselves with tanks and nukes and so forth I don’t think their militias would stand much chance against the US military today. The idea that people need all these types of weapons is something I can’t grasp. But we can disagree. Peace.

Kindly give us your explanation of just a “military style” rifle is?

Also what do you mean by saying multiple magazines.

In your own words.

 

[Darryl1958]

Are you the judge of that??? God Bless, memaw

Of course I am.
Naturally I am not a judge of a persons soul. I am not God

But I am perfectly capable of discerning what people say and write about.

We all are.

A person who would vote for Hitler because he likes the socialist package that goes with it lacks passion for Jews.

A person who supports Stalin and Mao for their communism and ideals on equality lack passion for the millions that have died opposing them.

A person who votes for Hillary because she is a woman, or whatever, lacks passion for the unborn.

It defies logic to think otherwise.

 

[Memaw]

Of course I am.
Naturally I am not a judge of a persons soul. I am not God

But I am perfectly capable of discerning what people say and write about.

We all are.

A person who would vote for Hitler because he likes the socialist package that goes with it lacks passion for Jews.

A person who supports Stalin and Mao for their communism and ideals on equality lack passion for the millions that have died opposing them.

A person who votes for Hillary because she is a woman, or whatever, lacks passion for the unborn.

It defies logic to think otherwise.

I agree that to many Catholics lack passion when it comes to abortion,etc. but how do you know the “majority” lack passion. You specifically said Catholics, not “a person”. God Bless, Memaw

 

[St_Pancake]

I agree that to many Catholics lack passion when it comes to abortion,etc. but how do you know the “majority” lack passion. You specifically said Catholics, not “a person”. God Bless, Memaw

Memaw, I’m not sure that the majority of Catholics even practice the faith.

 

[Darryl1958]

I agree that too many Catholics lack passion when it comes to abortion,etc. but how do you know the “majority” lack passion. You specifically said Catholics, not “a person”. God Bless, Memaw

Simply because the majority of Catholics in America vote for Democrats.
I did specifically state Catholics for that reason.
But it does come down to individual choice, and Catholics are are persons too. Catholics do not vote as a block, but as persons.
Tally up the numbers of how Catholic persons vote, and that is an effective way to measure the passion of Catholics as a group.

 

[Matthew239]

Gabrielle Giffords has made a rather emotional endorsement for Hillary Clinton. I think it’s a powerful endorsement because it would take a very hard-hearted person not to feel sympathy for Giffords. She fought a very hard battle, and I don’t know that it isn’t still on-going, though her voice sounded strong and fine in the ad. I agree with Giffords that we do have a gun problem in the US and that Clinton isn’t afraid to stand up to gun lobbyists.

And, no surprise, but the governor of South Carolina has also endorsed Clinton.

Whatever one thinks of Clinton, I hope all wish Giffords the best in her continuing fight to regain a normal and productive life. She is an inspiration to many.

Logic doesn’t help your argument. One out of every five guns in America was sold SINCE OBAMA was first elected. The upsurge was mostly over the ridiculous rhetoric from the Democrats that guns are the cause of violence in America. Gun violence has actually decreased in the US in the time these tens of millions of more guns have been produced and sold in the last eight years. If you believed the gun control lobby logic - gun violence should be up at least 20%, but it is down.

Next you will point to mass shootings and what you see on the news. If it bleeds it leads is a saying among newsrooms. We also have far better communication and news capabilities now. A cop being shot in Maine will be on the evening news in San Diego and vice versa.

Just some perspective, the worst school shooting/murder in US history occurred in Bath Township, MI back in 1927. Dynamite was used to kill the kids and a gun was only used in the end by the murderer to set off the last bomb killing some of the rescuers.

If you decide who to vote for based on endorsements - you are doing it wrong. You should look at the leader and why you would vote for them. It is and shouldn’t be a popularity contest.

PS I am in law enforcement and guns are not the problem. Gun lobbyists like the NRA just want to protect the right to own and use firearms.

People are the problem and the lack of enforcing current gun laws doesn’t help. You should worry when your government tells you they want your guns. Hitler and many other dictators started their rule by taking all the guns…