Game of Thrones and 16 year old boy

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I was just responding to what you said about the only nudity was some breasts. Calm down, I am not attacking you. We are just having a discussion, arent we?
 
Anyway, the bottom line for the OP, follow your conscience and understanding of your son.

Just don’t try “in your face religion.” I can assure you, it does not work, especially with teens.

Jim
 
As my Mother always said, “Just because they say they’re Catholic, doesn’t mean we have anything in common.”
 
JimR, I get what you are saying and I agree with you. At 16, this young man should be well on the way to making a lot of decisions on his own. Respectful and non-confrontational conversation about the pros and cons of this (mainstream) entertainment will be much more beneficial to him in developing wisdom for making decisions in life. 16 year old males have a way of doing what they want, regardless of their parents’ desires. Communication between parent and young adult is key for parents who want to influence their kids’ development.
 
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You let him keep the DVD’s then?? Or he had to give them to you?
 
As I stated, she should tell her son why she objects to the program.

However, being puritanical never changes the mind of a 16 year old male.
Not as a kid, it might not. But a parent isn’t supposed to just think of that year. The greater lesson is that some things are right, and some are wrong.
It won’t help him to even consider being Catholic if a puritanical attitude is used toward him.
Yes it will. If one does not think there is such a thing as sin, one does not need a savior from sin. Your use of the phrase “puritanical attitude” is spiritually immature, loaded rhetoric. God calls it holiness, and call us all to it. The only thing I agree with you on, is that rules just for the sake of rules, without proper instruction, is worthless.

To use an analogy, even with adult children, a person (parent) must be know to be of consistent character. This might mean forbidding certain things in your house that you consider immoral, even for other adults. In the end, who we are, the morals we hold and the stands we take, are more effective teachers than anything we say.
 
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The rating for Gsme of Thrones is TV-MA.

TV-MA Mature Audience Only
This program is specifically designed to be viewed by adults and therefore may be unsuitable for children under 17. This program may contain one or more of the following: crude indecent language (L), explicit sexual activity (S), or graphic violence (V).

I usually go by this. TV channels in my himecare locked by rating.

Also, imdb might have a parental guidance section to explain what the scenes are that are objectionable in each episode.
 
Acquiescing to a libidinous 16-year-old boy’s desire to watch an HBO show known for it’s gratuitous soft-core porn scenes is a fine example of failed fatherhood.

Just stating your objection without establishing rules communicates to your child that it’s not that important and ingrains the it’s-wrong-for-you-but-not-for-me attitude of moral relativists.

That the only other option is to be “puritanical” is a false dichotomy.

Grow a pair, dad.
 
I see nothing to be gained from censoring anything from anyone.

Do you intend to live in a bubble wrap world, when Prophet Muhammad and other historical figures were doing far worse to people in real life, within the frame of religious texts and teaching?

It boggles the mind quite frankly.

I’ve seen death up close since I was a child. Most of it in an equally or more depraved manner than anything GoT could hope to put out.

Ofcourse how you bring up your kids, at least until the next time the democrats are in power, is up to you.

But hiding the reality of the world from people, even children, isn’t something I would ever do. And I’ve lived through it myself. To hopefully become a fair and kind person, despite the context of the wars around me.
 
I see nothing to be gained from censoring anything from anyone.
So Caligula could be a good family film? Or how about Henry: portrait of a serial killer?

It’s a parent’s job to protect their children.
 
Not to mention that the more often anyone views something, the less objectionable it becomes. So I don’t entirely agree with not sheltering kids from that kind of stuff at all even though I feel that I can be pretty loose about this - mainly because there is almost nothing to watch if you are looking for 100% family friendly. I feel this way even for myself. Now that I have young kids in the house, I rarely see rated R movies. So when I do, I am not sure if the content is just way worse than when I was younger or If i am just not so accustomed to seeing it. I am often amazed at the content in movies that receive even a PG13 rating, which I stated previously, the game of thrones season 2-5 stated 13+ on the dvd. I do go back and forth about the MA rating. One example is with the call of duty game. It has a MA rating but I do let my boys play that game, although I am not completely comfortable with it. I think mostly just because of the rating. I also let my older son watch South Park, but had to forbid him from letting the younger boys(9 and 5) from watching. I don’t like that show either.

I did take the dvds away from my son. I gave him his money back and explained to him why I just couldn’t let him watch them. He said he understood but he kept on me for about 2 days. His friend said his mom and dad said he could watch them and they didn’t understand why I didn’t trust them. They said they would fast forward through the bad parts. I almost caved but decided to stick to that decision. He asked if he can get the dvds back when he is 17(in October) which I replied that we would revisit it then. He didn’t mention it yesterday but he has been acting kind of distant, which I assume is because he is upset with me.

Thanks for your advice. It certainly helped me to stick to my gut feeling!
 
I like Game of Thrones, but I probably wouldn’t let a 16 year old watch it. That said, some of the people in this thread need to tone down the histronics. A well formed adult really shouldn’t be sent to the fainting couch by a shot of some boobs or a bare butt. Let’s just tone down some of the pearl clutching.
 
I see nothing to be gained from censoring anything from anyone.
If we take this sentiment to the extreme, it would mean there would be nothing wrong with showing hardcore pornography to five year olds. I hope most people can recognize that such a thing would definitely not be okay. And if we can all agree on that, then that means we agree that some boundaries are necessary. We may just disagree about where the boundaries should be established.

I don’t let myself watch just anything and everything. So I’m certainly not going to let my children do so.
 
I dont think anyone said that.
However, the case was made that in the case of a 16 year old boy, GoT would not be the best thing to watch, especially one who has struggled with pornography.

Adults? sure, provided it does not lead them unto sin (Which i think it very well could do)
A hormonally raging 16 year old boy, who has struggled with pornography? It’s frankly idiotic and heterodox for any case to be made other than 'No. GoT will not be good for this young man.
 
I’m all for toning down hysterics, and I believe my posting history illustrates that I’m generally level-headed, but I refuse to shrug off nudity in television as “not that big of a deal.” Game of Thrones is no Sistine Chapel. These shows insert nudity because it titillates and draws viewers. I think we are fooling ourselves to think it is some necessary artistic decision that furthers the plot.
 
There are two thing to be gained by controlling what is watched. First, it sets a moral example. The importance of that cannot be overstated. Parental examples teach. Second, as a child gets older, “my house-my rules” is one of the reasons children need to leave the nest.
 
Yeah, like I said, I wouldn’t let a 16 year old watch it. I just notice some of comments (well-meaning, I’m sure) people make about nudity on television are really overblown. "This is the work of Satan trying to drag you to HELL!"

No, it’s not, it’s a fleeting shot of a boob, relax.

(Not directing that at you individually, some of the people who get really worked up.)
 
Yeah, but moral decay is slow… I mean, really, is that nudity a huge plot point? Can’t it be implied? As was said above, none of these producers mean this to be artful representations of the human figure… it’s supposed to be titillating and get more viewers…
 
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