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Kithrus
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lolThis might sound ironic depending on where one comes from in online games but you can find it as another outlet for socializing.
sobs and pointsā¦ to HD TV
Dear PS3: Y U NEED FANCY TV!?!?!?! :crying:
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Chiara_Caritas
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Of those Iāve owned, (SNES, N64, PS2, GBA, GC, GBA SP, NDS, Wii, & NDSi) my all time favorite system must be the SNES.
Lost it to Hurricane Sandy. Also lost archived issues from the 1st 5 years of of Nintendo Power mag & more.
Favorite games were
Favorite early PC games: Myst & RIVEN
Favorite early arcade games: Galaga, Defender, Asteroids, Frogger
Very 1st game owned: Pong, on a big, black & white TV type console.
2nd game owned: Breakout, on a gray handheld sold by JCP. Donāt remember the brand.
Guess Iāve been gaming a while.
*edit. It might have been SM64.
Lost it to Hurricane Sandy. Also lost archived issues from the 1st 5 years of of Nintendo Power mag & more.
Favorite games were
- Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
- Prince of Persia
- Street Fighter II Turbo (āSonic Booooom!ā)
- Donkey Kong Country
- Star Fox
Favorite early PC games: Myst & RIVEN
Favorite early arcade games: Galaga, Defender, Asteroids, Frogger
Very 1st game owned: Pong, on a big, black & white TV type console.
2nd game owned: Breakout, on a gray handheld sold by JCP. Donāt remember the brand.
Guess Iāve been gaming a while.
*edit. It might have been SM64.
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Chiara_Caritas
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Woah! Just amazing. Who belongs to that ? (searching for the āaweā Smilie)
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CaptBell800
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Ah, I loved Street Fighter II as a kid. I never owned it, but I rented it a lot from the local video store. It left such an impression that Iāve stuck with the SF series up till the present day.Of those Iāve owned, (SNES, N64, PS2, GBA, GC, GBA SP, NDS, Wii, & NDSi) my all time favorite system must be the SNES.
Lost it to Hurricane Sandy. Also lost archived issues from the 1st 5 years of of Nintendo Power mag & more.
Favorite games were
*I remember liking SMW, but it gave me & another gaming bud weird dreams.
- Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
- Prince of Persia
- Street Fighter II Turbo (āSonic Booooom!ā)
- Donkey Kong Country
- Star Fox
Favorite early PC games: Myst & RIVEN
Favorite early arcade games: Galaga, Defender, Asteroids, Frogger
Very 1st game owned: Pong, on a big, black & white TV type console.
2nd game owned: Breakout, on a gray handheld sold by JCP. Donāt remember the brand.
Guess Iāve been gaming a while.
*edit. It might have been SM64.
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chevalier
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PC, dude, sorry. 
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CaptBell800
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Carlj1497
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SNES forever.
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GreatergoodGod
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Sega mega drive.
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TroisNyxEtienne
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PlayStation 2.
A lot of my favourites were on the PS2 ā especially Kingdom Hearts I ā for a Disney-Square game, I might add that it has implicit Catholic symbolism turned Up to Eleven. <3
A lot of my favourites were on the PS2 ā especially Kingdom Hearts I ā for a Disney-Square game, I might add that it has implicit Catholic symbolism turned Up to Eleven. <3
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jilly4ski
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Ugh, Kingdom Hearts made me soo sick. But I like the play station 2 for the Final Fantasy X!!
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TroisNyxEtienne
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-]/-]
Ironically, Kingdom Hearts is the one with the implicit Catholic symbolism, while Final Fantasy Xā¦ well, see my response here.
Bet you wonāt like FFX anymore after thisā¦
Sigh.
Ironically, Kingdom Hearts is the one with the implicit Catholic symbolism, while Final Fantasy Xā¦ well, see my response here.
Bet you wonāt like FFX anymore after thisā¦
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Kamaduck
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Silly. No Playstation can ever overtake the Nintendo consoles!
Seriously, though- for RPGās, give me Fire Emblem and Zelda. And a lot of Pokemon.
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jilly4ski
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Ohh gameboy and the Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow series. I still have an old school gameboy that works, with the Pokemon Red game. . (It should be noted that it wasnāt my gameboy, but a younger cousins who got a new gameboy color and gave us the old school one).Silly. No Playstation can never overtake the Nintendo consoles!
Seriously, though- for RPGās, give me Fire Emblem and Zelda. And a lot of Pokemon.
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jilly4ski
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Seriously, it is a game. I am not a gamer per se. (I did not game as a child, but now occasionally get to indulge in a game, mostly computer, but now Wii, the only console that works and is hooked up, besides the xbox, which I dislike). Donāt make me get in to discussions about this, like it is a Harry Potter thread. Yes, it shows that the Japanese in general have a very poor understanding of Christianity (as evidenced by other games and anime). But that doesnāt mean the game play, graphics, story, characters, and music canāt make the game fun to play. I donāt play video games to learn about my faith. Just like I donāt read fiction for faith either.
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TroisNyxEtienne
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Calling it right here: if the stuff I produce and the stuff I follow, watch or play doesnāt reflect who I am as a person, 1) Iāll be creating scandal, which is a sin, and 2) itād be an obvious sign that Iām not brave enough to live the faith outwardly, instead just simply following the tide. The great difference between Harry Potter and FFX is that FFX is explicit.
I finished Final Fantasy X and I seriously think, as the first FF game for PS2, the graphics and voiceovers were stunning. But really, it all boils down to this: if Iām Catholic, what would distinguish me from the ordinary video game consumer? If itās nothing, then oh man, thereās cause to worryā¦ greatlyā¦ for my own soul.
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jilly4ski
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So I read your āresponse.ā I am not sure to what. But first step back. If you stop looking at FFX as Christian you will see something different. The Japanese are not in general a Christian society or people. They are attracted to the symbolism like westerners are attracted to martial arts and anime. So they appropriate some symbols and terms, that does not make it anti Catholic. Just like playing Call of Duty, or any other first person shooter doesnāt give scandal if Christians and Catholics play. Once I finally saw the end of FFX, I realized that despite the Christian symbols and terms, it was not trying to be either Christian nor a mocking of Christian redemption.
Do you play first person shooters? I would posit that they are more anti-Catholic than FFX. FFX is a made up world, with magic, and thing that are completely fantastical. It is a story. Do you always read things tt have a explicit Catholic or at least Christian message? Of course not, so it seems odd that you think we should restrict our gaming that way.
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TroisNyxEtienne
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As I gathered from games like Okami and Shadow Hearts. But while Okami is the more innocent of the two, sometimes the mixing of symbols and terms can be made disturbing, and even the Japanese themselves know it ā when they themselves rated Shadow Hearts II around CERO 15+. While the Japanese have traditionally seen gods (kami) as generally things that inspire awe, whatever the alignment, remember also that a lot of Japanese society 1) is born Shinto, 2) is married Christian, and 3) dies Buddhist. A lot of things may not be intended in video games like Shadow Hearts and Final Fantasy X, but Iām sure that some of us have the horse sense to filter out the bad.
As you probably have seen in the case of Shadow Hearts II, symbolism usage can be very, very loopyā¦ āDemon Morphā anyone?
And besides, if the Japanese trailer for FFX had the potential to be released internationally, even though the English version had censors, Iām sure theyād now foresee the backlash. Japanese society may not think the way we Westerners do when it comes to spirituality and religion, but some decisions are best buried.
Iām not a fan of FPSes ā never have been. The general ambience of FPSes donāt really appeal to me.
Do I read things that have an explicit Catholic or Christian message? Not always. The Lord of the Rings, for instance, is implicit. The fact still remains that I want my gaming and stories at least clean, or wholesome. For instance: would I play Ar Tonelico with all its beautiful music and hymns, knowing that the series has 1) loopy symbolism usage, 2) innuendo and 3) ecchi? Heck no. I enjoy most E-rated and most T-rated games, but starting from T-rated content, itās always best to filter.
Made-up world or not, every game tells an underlying story. Every piece of writing tells an underlying story. Heck, every form of artistic expression does the same. Because good writers throughout the ages saw this, they used this to their advantage ā GK Chesterton and CS Lewis wrote their stories with an implicit message of faith. Mozartās opera The Magic Flute actually pictures the Enlightenment in a good light, even with the symbolism. My point is that symbolism mixed with plot tells a story ā and if it rubs us the wrong way, made-up or not, weād best be careful.
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jilly4ski
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Actually no, like I said I am not a gamer. I have never played nor heard of the games you mention above. I play FFX, because it is one of the few games I can play, without getting motion sick and without dying every 5 seconds. I also really enjoy fantasy. I read a series of fantasy novels that appropriates some Christian symbols (mostly a Christ like redemption Character) but the book is actually about a war between the godās of this world. But I donāt see this as anti-Catholic. It is fascinating detailed and in depth plunge into a fantasy world, that does not in the details reflect our lives, except in the values being portrayed. (Like Honor, bravery, perseverance, etc.). Neither have I seen the trailer you posted until you directed my attention that way.
The most I have done is listen to some of the music on youtube and see if I could find the piano music to the Zanarkan theme.Fantasy stories are stories about different worlds with different laws of nature, maybe because they have different āgods.ā So of course the nature of these āgodsā is going to be different than how God actually is. Your argument is no different that those that are against Harry Potter.
Maybe it is because I didnāt start playing games until I was an adult? Did you get burned by a game that you enjoyed when you were younger? I know I liked a series of books when I was young, and then as an adult/older teen, realized that it was full of feminist propaganda. I can still read it, but with a critical eye that makes them less enjoyable than before.
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TroisNyxEtienne
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Quite franklyā¦ FFX (and X-2) was one game that burned me. I picked up X a year after I picked up Kingdom Hearts I. X hadā¦ that which I mentioned, while X-2 ā although it involved Yuna taking charge and spearheading efforts to find Tidus, my word the dressing was horrific. The other game that burned me was Shadow Hearts II. I took interest to very few games, and I had very few favourites, partly because of funding, but also partly because there were a select few that caught my eye.Actually no, like I said I am not a gamer. I have never played nor heard of the games you mention above. I play FFX, because it is one of the few games I can play, without getting motion sick and without dying every 5 seconds. I also really enjoy fantasy. I read a series of fantasy novels that appropriates some Christian symbols (mostly a Christ like redemption Character) but the book is actually about a war between the godās of this world. But I donāt see this as anti-Catholic. It is fascinating detailed and in depth plunge into a fantasy world, that does not in the details reflect our lives, except in the values being portrayed. (Like Honor, bravery, perseverance, etc.). Neither have I seen the trailer you posted until you directed my attention that way.
Fantasy stories are stories about different worlds with different laws of nature, maybe because they have different āgods.ā So of course the nature of these āgodsā is going to be different than how God actually is. Your argument is no different that those that are against Harry Potter.
Maybe it is because I didnāt start playing games until I was an adult? Did you get burned by a game that you enjoyed when you were younger? I know I liked a series of books when I was young, and then as an adult/older teen, realized that it was full of feminist propaganda. I can still read it, but with a critical eye that makes them less enjoyable than before.
(Strangely enough, I played about a third of Onimusha, which was rated M for extreme violence and gore, when I was about 12ā¦ and apart from the violence and gore, it was a typical samurai story about love, clan honour and saving a princess from a race of demons, or genma as they were called in later episodes. Revisiting the playthrough really wasnāt so bad.)
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jilly4ski
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Interesting. I never played X-2, they changed the game play, so I didnāt want to play it. Turn based fighting. Thatās what I like.Quite franklyā¦ FFX (and X-2) was one game that burned me. I picked up X a year after I picked up Kingdom Hearts I. X hadā¦ that which I mentioned, while X-2 ā although it involved Yuna taking charge and spearheading efforts to find Tidus, my word the dressing was horrific. The other game that burned me was Shadow Hearts II. I took interest to very few games, and I had very few favourites, partly because of funding, but also partly because there were a select few that caught my eye.
(Strangely enough, I played about a third of Onimusha, which was rated M for extreme violence and gore, when I was about 12ā¦ and apart from the violence and gore, it was a typical samurai story about love, clan honour and saving a princess from a race of demons, or genma as they were called in later episodes. Revisiting the playthrough really wasnāt so bad.)
Can you tell I am a lazy gamer. Like I said, I got very motion sick playing Kingdom Hearts and never got far enough to see any wholesome message in it.- Status