Gay pride event in our town

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Alex337 said:
I worry about how you think a person could be converted without having a conversation with them.
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As all conversion are, by the Holy Spirit. St. Paul would be a good example. I’m not dismissing conversations. But Jesus said to shake the dirt from your sandals. Some people close themselves off and we can do nothing about it.
 
ThinkingSapien said:
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“Fairy extreme”? You just have a Freudian slip there buddy?
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In a world with autocorrect I’m not sure how possible those are in types communication anymore.
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Believe it or not, some younger individuals have not really heard the message that Christianity has anything to say in the matter of marriage or sexuality
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Also for younger people gay relationships have been a normal presence in their adolescence. If they don’t know someone personally then there is probably someone in the media they consume. Statements against gay marriage may come across as statements against these people in their lives.
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When I was growing up (1950s and early 60s), smoking was a normal presence in our lives, strongly encouraged by the media we consumed, and indirectly by many people we knew. Everyone knew smoking was bad for you, even then, but many who should have known better went along with it, including priests in my high school, who wanted to “engage” the youths.

I realize smoking is not an inborn orientation, but neither is the political LGBT movement. What if an organization sponsored a “White Pride” rally? Should the Catholic parish join in, setting up a booth, so we can keep the dialogue going, and “engage” them?

We will never convert the crowd. We (or rather the gospel) can convert individuals, if they see something the crowd cannot offer them. My suggestion is do nothing during the gay pride rally, other than an hour of adoration. The day after the parade or rally, put up a small sign reaffirming what marriage is.
 
Spyridon said:
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Alex337:
worry about how you think a person could be converted without having a conversation with them.
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They’re not open to converting to our side…

They are trying to convert to THEIR side.

Therefore, they must be opposed and fought against tooth and nail.
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Just because something is hard doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. And I know plenty of folks who are lgbt+ that are interested in the Church. There are even people on this forum that were once part of the lgbt+ community.
 
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We will never convert the crowd. We (or rather the gospel) can convert individuals, if they see something the crowd cannot offer them. My suggestion is do nothing during the gay pride rally, other than an hour of adoration. The day after the parade or rally, put up a small sign reaffirming what marriage is.
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That’s probably a wiser and more level headed assessment than my (admittedly) reactionary and hotheaded response.

Can always count on @commenter for solid Catholic wisdom!
 
Their banners are not convincing anyone either. It took decades to get where we are, and banners were not responsible for that lol. All of these banners are simply preaching to the choir.
 
My opinion on the matter now stands with what @commenter said above…

I feel that’s the most prudent thing to do in this scenario.
 
I would talk to your priest about what he wants his flock to do. Putting up signs is not prudent and would be perceived poorly. You could always hold a prayer vigil at the church during this time and pray the rosary for the reparation of sins. Ask the Holy Spirit for wisdom and discernment in this matter.
 
Maybe have a day of continual Adoration, and then simply leave a table outside with pamphlets explaining the Church’s views on homosexuality.
 
Eric_Hyom said:
That will be our aim. But I sense people with fairy extreme views from many sides will turn up.
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I know this was just an innocent typo, but I had to chuckle at the thought of what kind of views would be described as fairy extreme. 😀
 
exnihilo said:
Of course people with SSA are God’s children. Loving them means doing what we can to help them avoid committing homosexual acts.
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Exactly, the Church is at the forefront of loving all of God’s Children. Part of that love, like the love of any parent, is to all that you can to prevent the child from doing wrong.

If the Church, and by extension, all Catholics, ever stopped doing so, that would be a sign of indifference, not a sign of love.
 
Whenever I see anything “pride” like school pride, proud parent bumper sticker, pride parade, etc. I think, “Now isn’t pride one of those pesky deadly sins?”
 
RCbkw said:
Whenever I see anything “pride” like school pride, proud parent bumper sticker, pride parade, etc. I think, “Now isn’t pride one of those pesky deadly sins?”
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This is a very good point. I sometimes think it is not a coincidence that the concept of “pride” is associated with homosexual acts and with same-sex so-called marriage. (And I would point out that it is the proponents of these things, not the opponents, that have chosen to use the concept of “pride.”)

I have seen the term “pride” associated with Catholic schools too, and it always bothers me. In my area, I see yard signs for a local Catholic school that say, “(Name of school) Proud.” I guess they mean that they are proud that their children go to such a good school, or that we have such a good school in our town. But it always bugs me, because pride is one of the deadly sins. (And yes, I know that the word “pride” can be used in different ways, and not all of those ways are necessarily bad, but I still think it is a poor choice of words.)
 
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Brendan said:
Exactly, the Church is at the forefront of loving all of God’s Children. Part of that love, like the love of any parent, is to all that you can to prevent the child from doing wrong.

If the Church, and by extension, all Catholics, ever stopped doing so, that would be a sign of indifference, not a sign of love.
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So why don’t we prevent straight people from sexual sins? Where are the protests?

I really think we ought to realize that not all of this protesting is coming from love. Some of it is coming from fear, and fear is a bad motivation in situations of evangelizing.
 
Prodigal_Son said:
Once Catholics start protesting at divorce courts and strip clubs, it will give them credibility to protest at gay pride parades without appearing to be homophobic.
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I have heard of Catholics protesting at strip clubs. I also know of Catholic organizations who do a lot of work opposing divorce.

However, I don’t typically hear of “stripper pride” or “divorce pride” parades held in the center of town, celebrating these activities in an overtly public way.
 
Paul71 said:
However, I don’t typically hear of “stripper pride” or “divorce pride” parades held in the center of town, celebrating these activities in an overtly public way.
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Do you think that gay people are fundamentally celebrating gay sex in these parades? Or are they trying to regain dignity as persons that they feel has been taken from them? (I don’t claim that they are always RIGHT about this latter feeling, but I think their feelings are nevertheless valid.)
 
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Well, the whole private property thing makes that a problem…I do know of guys who have stood on the sidewalk outside of the local strip club and pamphleted.

In regards to divorce, we should certainly protest Catholics divorcing, but in cases of secular divorce where holding the couple together may be unhealthy, that may not be a good course of action
 
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