Gays May Be Prosecuted at 2014 Olympics

[SMGS127]

Anyone who makes or defends the claim that 3-year-olds have a sexual orientation or preference of any kind is profoundly perverted in mind and spirit and is a victim of Satan’s culture of death.

I agree with you. Though I will say one of my lesbian friends claims to have lost her virginity to a girl at age 8 (other girl was also 8) when she talks about having known for her whole life, which is very disturbing to me. How do things like that happen? I still refuse to believe they recognized it as ‘sexual’ at 8 though, even if it did happen.

As for myself, I was a real loner most of my childhood, so I don’t really have evidence either way. But I didn’t start getting strong SSAs until maybe 15 or 16? When people talk about 10, 8, 5, I’m just like…I remember playing on the slides and stuff, not thinking about how ‘hot’ someone was.

 

[LisaA]

I agree with you. Though I will say one of my lesbian friends claims to have lost her virginity to a girl at age 8 (other girl was also 8) when she talks about having known for her whole life, which is very disturbing to me. How do things like that happen? I still refuse to believe they recognized it as ‘sexual’ at 8 though, even if it did happen.

As for myself, I was a real loner most of my childhood, so I don’t really have evidence either way. But I didn’t start getting strong SSAs until maybe 15 or 16? When people talk about 10, 8, 5, I’m just like…I remember playing on the slides and stuff, not thinking about how ‘hot’ someone was.

It IS odd that normal stages of being friends with same sex individuals pre-puberty is now being taken as an indication of sexual orientation. I certainly remember very close friendships with girls from grade school on. I even remember my friends and I claiming we’d never get married…I mean boys EWWWWWW…and we’d live together as girlfriends instead. Again we had no context for a sexual relationship with the opposite sex. They were a foreign species. And from what I could see boys felt the same way about girls.

The other thing that’s odd is that when little girls like boys activities, outdoors, physical, maybe even fishing or hunting, everyone thinks it’s just a stage. I was called a tomboy when young because I didn’t mind getting dirty, hated dresses and wanted to be outdoors. However when boys seem reserved, uninterested in boy stuff such as sports or cars or outdoor activities there is often this panic and label that the child is going to be gay. Perhaps this is what led the poster to claim his stepson was “gay” from age 3. It’s unfortunate anyone would come to such a conclusion and demonize normal differences among children. Quite honestly I do fear that the homosexual promoters (and no I do not consider you one) grab onto these labels for their agenda and for “proof” that children are born with a sexual orientation which is utterly ridiculous.

Lisa

 

[edwest2]

It IS odd that normal stages of being friends with same sex individuals pre-puberty is now being taken as an indication of sexual orientation. I certainly remember very close friendships with girls from grade school on. I even remember my friends and I claiming we’d never get married…I mean boys EWWWWWW…and we’d live together as girlfriends instead. Again we had no context for a sexual relationship with the opposite sex. They were a foreign species. And from what I could see boys felt the same way about girls.

The other thing that’s odd is that when little girls like boys activities, outdoors, physical, maybe even fishing or hunting, everyone thinks it’s just a stage. I was called a tomboy when young because I didn’t mind getting dirty, hated dresses and wanted to be outdoors. However when boys seem reserved, uninterested in boy stuff such as sports or cars or outdoor activities there is often this panic and label that the child is going to be gay. Perhaps this is what led the poster to claim his stepson was “gay” from age 3. It’s unfortunate anyone would come to such a conclusion and demonize normal differences among children. Quite honestly I do fear that the homosexual promoters (and no I do not consider you one) grab onto these labels for their agenda and for “proof” that children are born with a sexual orientation which is utterly ridiculous.

Lisa

Well said, Lisa. Growing up, girls were not so much ewwwww, but girls played house or played with dolls and us boys wanted to play army or catch grasshoppers and talk about cool boy stuff. Us boys just thought we had little in common, which does not mean we were disrespectful just very uninterested. For Christmas, the girls got Barbies or other dolls and the tiny clothes, and us guys got army figures, or a tank or, in my case, a chemistry set.

All the moms were stay at home moms but I don’t recall any panic over tomboy behavior, and while I thought sports were OK, I never collected baseball cards and didn’t hang around with those kids who could recite everything about their favorite players - batting average, most home runs - boring. I loved going to the park and my dad took me fishing once but I didn’t like it.

It does appear that the current strategy is “I was born that way” or “I had SSA since as long as I can remember.” And the Russians are wise to keep kids away from “you could be gay” or “give it a try” propaganda because kids are kids, and they really haven’t lived life to fully understand the emotional and psychological changes that occur at puberty. In my teens, girls got on my radar. I had a few crushes and went on one date before finishing high school.

Peace,
Ed

 

[LisaA]

Well said, Lisa. Growing up, girls were not so much ewwwww, but girls played house or played with dolls and us boys wanted to play army or catch grasshoppers and talk about cool boy stuff. Us boys just thought we had little in common, which does not mean we were disrespectful just very uninterested. For Christmas, the girls got Barbies or other dolls and the tiny clothes, and us guys got army figures, or a tank or, in my case, a chemistry set.

All the moms were stay at home moms but I don’t recall any panic over tomboy behavior, and while I thought sports were OK, I never collected baseball cards and didn’t hang around with those kids who could recite everything about their favorite players - batting average, most home runs - boring. I loved going to the park and my dad took me fishing once but I didn’t like it.

It does appear that the current strategy is “I was born that way” or “I had SSA since as long as I can remember.” And the Russians are wise to keep kids away from “you could be gay” or “give it a try” propaganda because kids are kids, and they really haven’t lived life to fully understand the emotional and psychological changes that occur at puberty. In my teens, girls got on my radar. I had a few crushes and went on one date before finishing high school.

Peace,
Ed

Yes and I think that’s the reason when anyone jumps into the “I knew my kid was gay from the time he was three” there is the danger of a child being labeled, being treated differently…whether beaten because the parents are horrified or encouraged if the parents think well if he wants to be a girl, let’s look into sex change surgery . Children go through stages in life. It doesn’t take a PhD in psychology to understand this reality. They have close friendships with the same sex early on and at some point may discover the opposite sex. Some girls are looking at boys differently at about age 11, others are out of high school. Ditto for boys. Parents, teachers or other adults should not draw conclusions because ten year old Jimmy doesn’t like football or eight year old Suzy wants a chemistry set for Christmas (that was my mother).

At any rate making sexuality, sexual interest and sex itself the be all and end all definition of who someone is, is so destructive. It disgusts me the way various agendas are pushed from primary school as if a second grader spends ten seconds wondering about Heather’s Two Mommies’ bedroom antics.

Let kids be kids…

Lisa

 

[meltzerboy]

Yes and I think that’s the reason when anyone jumps into the “I knew my kid was gay from the time he was three” there is the danger of a child being labeled, being treated differently…whether beaten because the parents are horrified or encouraged if the parents think well if he wants to be a girl, let’s look into sex change surgery . Children go through stages in life. It doesn’t take a PhD in psychology to understand this reality. They have close friendships with the same sex early on and at some point may discover the opposite sex. Some girls are looking at boys differently at about age 11, others are out of high school. Ditto for boys. Parents, teachers or other adults should not draw conclusions because ten year old Jimmy doesn’t like football or eight year old Suzy wants a chemistry set for Christmas (that was my mother).

At any rate making sexuality, sexual interest and sex itself the be all and end all definition of who someone is, is so destructive. It disgusts me the way various agendas are pushed from primary school as if a second grader spends ten seconds wondering about Heather’s Two Mommies’ bedroom antics.

Let kids be kids…

Lisa

If a second-grader doesn’t wonder about Heather’s Two Mommies’ bedroom antics, then there’s no harm introducing this into the curriculum? In general, however, I understand your point.

 

[LisaA]

If a second-grader doesn’t wonder about Heather’s Two Mommies’ bedroom antics, then there’s no problem in introducing this into the curriculum? In general, however, I understand your point.

That’s EXACTLY why you shouldn’t introduce this into the curriculum. Look back into your childhood and tell me you understood adult sexual activity? We as children were aware that Mommy and Daddy were married (not so much these days sadly) but we didn’t really understand what it entailed with respect to sexual activity. So if Heather lives with two women and Joey lives with a single mom and no Daddy or Sally has a Mommy and a Daddy, I suggest that until a certain age, kids don’t have any context with which to view these differing relationships. They just know their friends may have a different situation than they do.

It’s like taking a first grader who barely understands two plus two equals four and starting him out with a few Calculus lessons and expecting him to understand. Both the academic and social curricula should be age appropriate and introduced with the proper foundation. I remember being about eleven or twelve before we moved from how tadpoles become frogs to where babies come from. But again, it was totally a biology based curriculum, not a sociological agenda or discussion of the various merits of one family structure vis a vis another.

Lisa

 

[SMGS127]

Yes and I think that’s the reason when anyone jumps into the “I knew my kid was gay from the time he was three” there is the danger of a child being labeled, being treated differently…whether beaten because the parents are horrified or encouraged if the parents think well if he wants to be a girl, let’s look into sex change surgery . Children go through stages in life. It doesn’t take a PhD in psychology to understand this reality. They have close friendships with the same sex early on and at some point may discover the opposite sex. Some girls are looking at boys differently at about age 11, others are out of high school. Ditto for boys. Parents, teachers or other adults should not draw conclusions because ten year old Jimmy doesn’t like football or eight year old Suzy wants a chemistry set for Christmas (that was my mother).

At any rate making sexuality, sexual interest and sex itself the be all and end all definition of who someone is, is so destructive. It disgusts me the way various agendas are pushed from primary school as if a second grader spends ten seconds wondering about Heather’s Two Mommies’ bedroom antics.

Let kids be kids…

Lisa

You know it’s interesting that you bring that up Lisa. This is a bit off-topic, but I heard directly from an electrologist’s mouth that she once had a 17-yo male patient come in for facial hair removal, and she asked him why he was there. Turns out, he had just come out to his mom as having SSAs and she was so horrified, she was trying to force him into a sex change so that he would then be ‘straight.’ Needless to say, my electrologist friend immediately ended that appointment and had a talk with his mother.

Gay panic is so prevalent these days among parents. Parents will do everything they can to avoid having a child with SSAs, instead of treating them with love and raising them right. And I agree with you that the ‘signs’ are getting younger and younger.

 

[LisaA]

I think they said a few days ago that Olympic athletes would be left alone…but now this, just in:

en.ria.ru/russia/20130812/182723811/Russia-Confirms-Anti-Gay-Law-Will-Be-Enforced-at-Olympics.html

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Russia Confirms Anti-Gay Law Will Be Enforced at Olympics**

MOSCOW, August 12 (R-Sport) – Russia’s Interior Ministry, which controls the police force, confirmed Monday that the country’s controversial anti-gay law will be enforced during the Sochi 2014 Olympics.…

So…if an athlete wins an event and his or her same-sex spouse kisses him/her on the cheek in happiness and it’s caught on TV, because that often happens…they are arrested?
Perhaps children all over Russia should simply be banned from watching the Olympics on television.
Also, banned from watching any of the events in person.
Also…maybe…they shouldn’t be allowed out on the street during the Olympics? Seriously.
Just in case a couple absentmindedly holds eachother’s hand or something.

It’s the only way to protect minors from seeing affection between two people for sure…keep them inside at home until they are 18.

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“**If a person does not put across his views in the presence of children, no measures against him can be taken,” Zhukov said. “People of nontraditional sexual orientations can take part in the competitions and all other events at the Games unhindered, without any fear for their safety whatsoever.”
**
Right you really think that the Russians are going to have spies making sure Bill doesn’t wear his rainbow tee shirt or pat Joe on the tush? Come on…

What they don’t want is propagandizing, signs, banners, protests, along with directly encountering children and then “befriending them” with offers of tea and sympathy. I suspect the Russians have seen the kind of crazy scenes at gay pride parades or the Chik Fil A protest and hopes to keep things focused on the athletes not the agenda.

Lisa

 

[edwest2]

Yes and I think that’s the reason when anyone jumps into the “I knew my kid was gay from the time he was three” there is the danger of a child being labeled, being treated differently…whether beaten because the parents are horrified or encouraged if the parents think well if he wants to be a girl, let’s look into sex change surgery . Children go through stages in life. It doesn’t take a PhD in psychology to understand this reality. They have close friendships with the same sex early on and at some point may discover the opposite sex. Some girls are looking at boys differently at about age 11, others are out of high school. Ditto for boys. Parents, teachers or other adults should not draw conclusions because ten year old Jimmy doesn’t like football or eight year old Suzy wants a chemistry set for Christmas (that was my mother).

At any rate making sexuality, sexual interest and sex itself the be all and end all definition of who someone is, is so destructive. It disgusts me the way various agendas are pushed from primary school as if a second grader spends ten seconds wondering about Heather’s Two Mommies’ bedroom antics.

Let kids be kids…

Lisa

You’re right, Lisa. It is very disturbing and I think any rational person understands that babies turn into boys and girls which are followed by young men and young women. It should be illegal to expose kids to such material at 5 or 7. They can’t get it and won’t understand it until their hormones start certain physiological and psychological changes.

It’s disgusting but as the old Hippie saying goes: “Hey man. If it feels good, do it.” So, no commitment, lots of sex, lots of illegal drugs and booze. Slavery to the flesh. So, later in life, what do you get? A guy going to buy a 40 ounce beer at midnight, who lives in an apartment and his only friends are his dog and pickup truck.

Peace,
Ed

 

[Mickey_Finn]

Kind of late for this one. But the Irony of Russia being on the side of morality, and human rights. While the US is accused of war crimes, and other immorality. WOW.

ATB

 

[Tucker_R]

Awesome… this is a good thing… proves that at least one coutnry won’t tolerate it. Good for them.

I think they said a few days ago that Olympic athletes would be left alone…but now this, just in:

en.ria.ru/russia/20130812/182723811/Russia-Confirms-Anti-Gay-Law-Will-Be-Enforced-at-Olympics.html

**
Russia Confirms Anti-Gay Law Will Be Enforced at Olympics**

MOSCOW, August 12 (R-Sport) – Russia’s Interior Ministry, which controls the police force, confirmed Monday that the country’s controversial anti-gay law will be enforced during the Sochi 2014 Olympics.…

So…if an athlete wins an event and his or her same-sex spouse kisses him/her on the cheek in happiness and it’s caught on TV, because that often happens…they are arrested?
Perhaps children all over Russia should simply be banned from watching the Olympics on television.
Also, banned from watching any of the events in person.
Also…maybe…they shouldn’t be allowed out on the street during the Olympics? Seriously.
Just in case a couple absentmindedly holds eachother’s hand or something.

It’s the only way to protect minors from seeing affection between two people for sure…keep them inside at home until they are 18.

.

 

[John_Lazarus]

Lot of conjecture here, what the actual result will be, whether or not the police will throw someone in the clink for holding hands in public. It almost seems to be an argument between those who say they will but shouldn’t, and those who say they won’t but oughta.

I don’t think we’re going to have to wait very long to see the fruits of this law, either way.

 

[Slavonic]

The real contradiction lies in the fact that anti-gay propaganda is not banned. Does that not, in itself expose children to homosexuality? One does have to expose a child to homosexuality in order to ‘teach’ him that homosexuality is ‘wrong.’ Yet mere fact that LGBT preppie exist seems to be a pro-gay stance in this thread, so I see a massive inconsistency in the beliefs of some here. But that isn’t surprising muddled thinking leads to wrong conclusions.

Once again, any idea that LGBT are a threat to children is completely absurd.

 

[edwest2]

You know it’s interesting that you bring that up Lisa. This is a bit off-topic, but I heard directly from an electrologist’s mouth that she once had a 17-yo male patient come in for facial hair removal, and she asked him why he was there. Turns out, he had just come out to his mom as having SSAs and she was so horrified, she was trying to force him into a sex change so that he would then be ‘straight.’ Needless to say, my electrologist friend immediately ended that appointment and had a talk with his mother.

Gay panic is so prevalent these days among parents. Parents will do everything they can to avoid having a child with SSAs, instead of treating them with love and raising them right. And I agree with you that the ‘signs’ are getting younger and younger.

“gay panic”? Can you point to a source that indicates it’s ‘so prevalent these days’? And what about the 1950s and 1960s? I’ve read a few messages like, “We never want to live like it was in those days.” What are parents doing today to avoid having a child with SSA?

What signs? Younger according to who?

Peace,
Ed

 

[edwest2]

The real contradiction lies in the fact that anti-gay propaganda is not banned. Does that not, in itself expose children to homosexuality? One does have to expose a child to homosexuality in order to ‘teach’ him that homosexuality is ‘wrong.’ Yet mere fact that LGBT preppie exist seems to be a pro-gay stance in this thread, so I see a massive inconsistency in the beliefs of some here. But that isn’t surprising muddled thinking leads to wrong conclusions.

Once again, any idea that LGBT are a threat to children is completely absurd.

massive? absurd? What’s crazy is 5 year old kids getting a picture book with a drawing showing two men kissing. That’s happening in US public schools. The Russians get the problem. Catholics get the problem. Such reading material should be banned OR the parents should get notified but that’s not happening in the US. Mom or Dad don’t know until Billy comes home and tells them about it. 5 year olds have no clue.

Peace,
Ed

 

[Seamus_L]

Last year during the opening ceremonies of the Summer Olympics in London, I told friends and family that the only team I was going to cheer for (from my living room) as they paraded around the stadium, were the Russians. This is why

 

[LisaA]

The real contradiction lies in the fact that anti-gay propaganda is not banned. Does that not, in itself expose children to homosexuality? One does have to expose a child to homosexuality in order to ‘teach’ him that homosexuality is ‘wrong.’ Yet mere fact that LGBT preppie exist seems to be a pro-gay stance in this thread, so I see a massive inconsistency in the beliefs of some here. But that isn’t surprising muddled thinking leads to wrong conclusions.

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Where are you seeing anti-gay propaganda? As to having to ‘teach’ children about homosexuality to teach them it’s wrong, you are assuming they actually need to know about this lifestyle, and at an early age. Now THAT is ridiculous. Here is the reality. Children do not need to be exposed to every possible sexual practice as part of their education (bestiality anyone? bondage? fetishes?). They have no context, even for the sexual relationship within marriage. This is completely separate from teaching them, at an appropriate age, about reproduction which is part of the biology curriculum, not social studies. Discussing oral sex or homosexual practices or pornography is up to the child’s parents, not the homosexualists with the bully pulpit.

I’m not sure what an LBGTQ “preppie” is but acknowledging that some people have same sex attraction is not considered anti gay but rather the constant drumbeat is that of the activists who try to equate same sex relationships with traditional marriage or claim that two men or two women can provide an equivalent environment for raising children. Anyone who even suggests that there is something unique about male female marriage and that traditional marriage is the glue that holds society together is immediately labeled as a bigot or a h8er. The ACTIVISM and the majority of the vitriol is on the part of homosexualists, not those who support traditional marriage and family structure.

Once again, any idea that LGBT are a threat to children is completely absurd.

What’s absurd is blanket statements such as the above. Some LGBTQ’s ARE a threat to children. You claim to be a Catholic and thus might be aware of the priest sexual abuse scandal. Those homosexuals WERE a threat to children. It disgusts me that this occurred in my Church but I am not willing to pretend it didn’t occur and vow that it will not happen again. Further the incidence of homosexuals preying upon children is higher than for heterosexuals (vis a vis their relative numbers). We believe this is disordered behavior and anyone who has even a slight understanding of psychological issues understands that these behaviors rarely arise in a vacuum. Homosexuality is associated with higher incidence of mental illness, drug addiction, suicide and other mental/physical health concerns.

That some young people have attraction to the same sex, whether transitory or whether entrenched is no reason to make public proclamations or provide public acclamation for this behavior. That the Russians are open about their restrictions on propagandizing youth is not necessarily a bad thing. They may have observed the world gone mad where boys can decide on a given day they are girls and thus use the girls bathrooms…we’ve slid down the slippery slope and the Russians are smart to try to avoid it.

Lisa

 

[Slavonic]

Where are you seeing anti-gay propaganda? As to having to ‘teach’ children about homosexuality to teach them it’s wrong, you are assuming they actually need to know about this lifestyle, and at an early age. Now THAT is ridiculous. Here is the reality. Children do not need to be exposed to every possible sexual practice as part of their education (bestiality anyone? bondage? fetishes?). They have no context, even for the sexual relationship within marriage. This is completely separate from teaching them, at an appropriate age, about reproduction which is part of the biology curriculum, not social studies. Discussing oral sex or homosexual practices or pornography is up to the child’s parents, not the homosexualists with the bully pulpit.

Bestiality, bondage and fetish are not sexual orientations, for one. Second, I think issue here is that you’re focusing too much on sex acts. Let’s look at relationships. Children know there are different kinds of relationships, friends, siblings, parents, and/or married couples ans boyfriends and girlfriends. LGBT relationships are just another relationship. Children can handle that.

And just for fun, if we’re mentioning story books as an aside. Should The Frog Prince be banned for portraying the unnatural, non-traditional sexual act performed between human and animal?

I’m not sure what an LBGTQ “preppie” is but acknowledging that some people have same sex attraction is not considered anti gay but rather the constant drumbeat is that of the activists who try to equate same sex relationships with traditional marriage or claim that two men or two women can provide an equivalent environment for raising children. Anyone who even suggests that there is something unique about male female marriage and that traditional marriage is the glue that holds society together is immediately labeled as a bigot or a h8er. The ACTIVISM and the majority of the vitriol is on the part of homosexualists, not those who support traditional marriage and family structure.

And there’s no vitriol in using the term ‘homosexualist’ twice?

Some LGBTQ’s ARE a threat to children.

And so are some straight people. I guess we shouldn’t expose children to straight people.

That some young people have attraction to the same sex, whether transitory or whether entrenched is no reason to make public proclamations or provide public acclamation for this behavior. That the Russians are open about their restrictions on propagandizing youth is not necessarily a bad thing. They may have observed the world gone mad where boys can decide on a given day they are girls and thus use the girls bathrooms…we’ve slid down the slippery slope and the Russians are smart to try to avoid it.

Gay people existed long before modern ‘gay propaganda’ (whatever that is). The ban does nothing but harm.

 

[LisaA]

Bestiality, bondage and fetish are not sexual orientations, for one. Second, I think issue here is that you’re focusing too much on sex acts. Let’s look at relationships. Children know there are different kinds of relationships, friends, siblings, parents, and/or married couples ans boyfriends and girlfriends. LGBT relationships are just another relationship. Children can handle that.

And just for fun, if we’re mentioning story books as an aside. Should The Frog Prince be banned for portraying the unnatural, non-traditional sexual act performed between human and animal?

And there’s no vitriol in using the term ‘homosexualist’ twice?

And so are some straight people. I guess we shouldn’t expose children to straight people.

Gay people existed long before modern ‘gay propaganda’ (whatever that is). The ban does nothing but harm.

Do tell me why “sexual orientation” is somehow elevated to something other than what it is, a particular focus to obtain sexual satisfaction? Those with SSA prefer sexual practices with persons of the same sex. It’s no better or worse or more elevated than someone who gets sexual satisfaction from toys or porn or staring at women’s shoes.

Homosexualist isn’t meant to be pejorative but rather descriptive of someone who is of an activist bent. There are many homosexuals who simply want to live their lives in peace, enjoy their friends and family, go to work and not think about propagandizing children or marching in a Gay Pride Parade. However those with SSA whose life revolves around homosexual activism is a different manifestation of this sexual orientation.

I did not make a blanket statement but spoke the truth. There are SOME homosexuals who are child predators. There are also some heterosexuals who are child predators. As to “exposing” children to either, proper judgment would indicate when and how children interact with ANY adult. Further, as noted, there is a higher incidence of predatory behavior among homosexuals than homosexuals. In sheer numbers, there are statistically 97 straight men to 3 gay men in every 100. Thus there are probably more incidents involving straight men, but the percentage is higher among gays. That being said, anyone who allows their minor child to be alone with adults inappropriately is risking a horrific experience for that child.

Children might notice that Johnny lives with two daddies or Suzy has a single mom but they do not understand the context, nor do they need to have sodomy explained in great detail when they are seven years old. As to your frog prince analogy, how pathetic. Children understand fantasy, make believe and once upon a time. Further the age of reading The Frog Prince or Sleeping Beauty is a bit young to start explaining bestiality or walking into a girl’s bedroom while she sleeps.

As to your conclusion that “the ban does nothing but harm” you may be an expert on your opinion but you have zero facts to back it up. You are obviously a strong apologist for the homosexualist movement and your ox is being gored so you object. That parents do not want you or others propagandizing or lauding the joys of homosexuality seems to be completely lost on you and your fellow apologists.

Lisa

 

[EmperorNapoleon]

The ACTIVISM and the majority of the vitriol is on the part of homosexualists, not those who support traditional marriage and family structure.

Say that again when the Russian LGBT community starts torturing heterosexuals in the street in broad daylight. At the moment, the majority of activism and vitriol in Russia as it relates to homosexuals is that of heterosexuals and religious zealots including Orthodox priests committing acts of violence against homosexuals. How dare you try to downplay those gross violations of human rights down to mere support of “traditional” marriage and family structure.