Gender pronouns in the workplace

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Nothing is 100% effective. But the amount of therapy and treating required to have transition therapy certainly assists in making sure a person is ready and sure. I don’t think it about be done lightly.

Part of the problem has how society treats these folks. It certainly doesn’t help a person combat depression when people can be so vile to them.
 
What we know is that transitioning is therapeutic for GID. Think of how well (not) reparative therapy worked for gays and lesbians. GID is a whole different thing. So let’s keep them alive for one. Let’s welcome them in our parish families.

I totally get that. Two of the trans persons I know are dear to me. I’ve known them since they were little. I’m protective. I’m cautious and read up on the medical issues and social issues. I don’t want them to do something that they will hate themselves for. I’ve been impressed with the research they’ve done and the thought they put into decisions. It’s not easy.
 
dochawk said:
“some languages have pronouns for persons of unknown gender. English is one of those languages. The word for a person of unknown gender is ‘he’. So forgive me if I do not say ‘he or she’.”
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I mentioned this in a prior post. This is the case in the three European languages I know (English, Spanish, and German) and I wouldn’t be surprised if its the case in the majority of European languages. Unfortunately the enlightened class has determined that it’s misogynistic to use it, which is what gave rise to the onerous “his or her”. Now we’re back to using a sex specific singular pronoun for neutral cases: the feminine one this time.

I will say I prefer that to the idiocy that’s befalling Spanish due to their own group of “woke” malcontents: removing the terminal vowel of nouns and adjectives (thus neutering them) and adding an ‘x’ to the end. As in “la gente latinx” (“the Latino people” oddly enough this is an example of them neutering an otherwise feminine word ‘gente’). I don’t even know how to begin pronouncing that monstrosity. I doubt most of its advocates do either.
 
Not really. Some think that mutilating the body to conform to whatever sex the person believes they are will reduce the disphoria and make them feel better about themselves. They do not believe that the person is literally in the wrong body. Like the stork aciddently dropped the wrong brain in the wrong baby while making his runs one night.

You might equally say that a man suffering from schizophrenia doesn’t really have a mental problem, he is just missing his second body. It’s nonsense.
 
Transmen also “pass” better. Odds are you wouldn’t know one if you saw one.

Trans* folk have been around all through history. It’s not new or radical. In some cultures they were viewed as blessed.
 
When did we start using the feminine? I know a game company who do. But normally they is preferred.
 
It’s a misinterpretation.
And there’s this:
What leads to increased suicide risk?
Rejection by friends and family increases suicide risk

Transgender people who are rejected by their families or lack social support are much more likely to both consider suicide, and to attempt it. Conversely, those with strong support were 82% less likely to attempt suicide than those without support, according to one recent study. Another study showed that transgender youth whose parents reject their gender identity are 13 times more likely to attempt suicide than transgender youth who are supported by their parents.

Discrimination increases suicide risk

Transgender people in states without LGBT legal protections are at higher risk of suicide. Other studies have found that transgender people who have been discriminated against are at a higher risk of suicide. What makes this worse is that discrimination against transgender people in health care, employment, accommodations, and housing is very common. Even in places with legal protections for transgender people, like Washington D.C., cultural bias and discrimination remains.

Physical abuse increases suicide risk

Transgender people who have been physically or sexually abused because they are transgender are at a higher risk of suicide. As the number of abusive incidents increases, the more likely the person is to have attempted suicide. The amount of abuse is also associated with the number of time suicide has been attempted. Again, studies on how often transgender people are assaulted show shockingly high levels of violence.

Being seen as transgender or gender non-conforming increases suicide risk

People who are seen as transgender or gender non-conforming are more likely to have attempted suicide. Also, people who have had access to surgery which allows them to “pass,” such as facial feminization surgery, report qualities of life not significantly different from the general population. This is perhaps the most damning study, since it strongly suggests that when transgender people are treated the same as cisgender (non-transgender) people, the risk of suicide becomes no different than for anyone else.

Internalized transphobia increases suicide risk

Intersecting minority identities increases suicide risk

Multiple studies have found that transgender people of color are at higher risk of suicide than white transgender people. This is a result of the combined effects of racial and gender identity discrimination.
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This is from HuffPost but in the past I linked the same info from DHHS or similar.
 
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Not really. Some think that mutilating the body to conform to whatever sex the person believes they are will reduce the disphoria and make them feel better about themselves. They do not believe that the person is literally in the wrong body. Like the stork aciddently dropped the wrong brain in the wrong baby while making his runs one night.

You might equally say that a man suffering from schizophrenia doesn’t really have a mental problem, he is just missing his second body. It’s nonsense.
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Schizophrenia is but multiple personalities, common error. But yes, dysphoria is a physical thing that can be alerted with surgery. It’s not mutilation.
 
I don’t know when it started, but I’ve seen it in academic literature more than once, and we as faculty have been encouraged to adopt its usage at my university.
 
Yeah I know what schizophrenia is. And yes, it is mutilation. Use whatever euphemisms you want, but a sex change operation is mutilation of a healthy male or female body plus the injections of not-native levels of hormones to mimic the opposite sex.
 
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I don’t know when it started, but I’ve seen it in academic literature more than once, and we as faculty have been encouraged to adopt its usage at my university.
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Cool. I work in academia, could you pass me the style guide? I’d be interested.
 
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And yes, it is mutilation. _use _
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Not really. From the CCC under Respect for bodily integrity
(2297) …
Except when performed for strictly therapeutic medical reasons, directly intended amputations, mutilations, and sterilizations performed on innocent persons are against the moral law.
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It is theraputic.
 
Amputating a leg with gangrene is therapeutic. Cutting off healthy sex organs for cosmetic purposes is mutilation.

Or is the position that mutilation does not exist if the patient wants it?
 
It was sent to us informally in an email by the department chair as a means of fostering inclusivity when speaking or writing to students. Neither our department nor the college has its own style manual. I’ll see if I can find some of the articles I’ve seen it in…
 
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