Genocide in the Bible: does this trouble anyone else?

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Mmarco:
because it does not change the meaning of Gen 6:6.
That verse gives the context for it. So it’s not irrelevant.
You go on pretending not to understand that Gen 6:6 explicitly says that God regretted and decided to wipe the human race, which is certainly false. You are just pretending (maybe also to yourself) not to understandthat your literalistic interpretation of Scripture is incoherent and self-contradictory
 
You go on pretending not to understand that Gen 6:6 explicitly says that God regretted and decided to wipe the human race
And the previous verse says why. Hence the deluge. Only 8 were spared, and they would’ve been swept away had they not obeyed God.
You are just pretending (maybe also to yourself) not to understandthat your literalistic interpretation of Scripture is incoherent
I think I could say that for your “non-literalistic” interpretation, and that it takes divine inspiration out of Scripture.
 
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Mmarco:
You go on pretending not to understand that Gen 6:6 explicitly says that God regretted and decided to wipe the human race
And the previous verse says why. Hence the deluge. Only 8 were spared, and they would’ve been swept away had they not obeyed God.
So you believe in a God who changes His mind; first He regrets creating human beings (which implies that He didn’t know since the very beginning what humans would have done) and decides to wipe the human race; then He changes His mind and decides to save eight people.

Let me say that your idea of God has nothing to do with the concept of God of the Catholic Church.
 
So you believe in a God who changes His mind; first He regrets creating human beings (which implies that He didn’t know since the very beginning what humans would have done) and decides to wipe the human race; then He changes His mind and decides to save eight people.
That’s you creating a strawman, not my argument.
your idea of God has nothing to do with the concept of God of the Catholic Church
That would be describing your Marcionistic position:
Don’t you understand that these verses (and many other verses in the OT) express a wrong concept of God?
 
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Mmarco:
So you believe in a God who changes His mind; first He regrets creating human beings (which implies that He didn’t know since the very beginning what humans would have done) and decides to wipe the human race; then He changes His mind and decides to save eight people.
That’s you creating a strawman, not my argument.
No strawman created; you go on pretending not to see the contradictions of your literalistic interpretations.
I see no reason to continue this conversation. I hope one day you will understand that the God of the Catholic Church is not the god you posits.
 
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No strawman created
I figured you’d say that and exonorate yourself.

But the fact is your conception of God is more Marcionistic than orthodox. Saying that the Old Testament has erroneous descriptions of God’s decisions invalidates Scripture.

So your thought brings down God while I am merely saying who He is.
 
I think I could say that for your “non-literalistic” interpretation, and that it takes divine inspiration out of Scripture.
You might want to think about what you said here in light of what the Catholic Church teaches.
 
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goout:
You might want to think about what you said here in light of what the Catholic Church teaches.
I, along with others, have brought Catholic teaching to support what we have said.
I’m sorry, what you said, or at least strongly imply here, flies in the face of explicit Catholic teaching on the nature of Inspiration.
I think I could say that for your “non-literalistic” interpretation, and that it takes divine inspiration out of Scripture.
 
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Mmarco:
No strawman created
I figured you’d say that and exonorate yourself.

But the fact is your conception of God is more Marcionistic than orthodox. Saying that the Old Testament has erroneous descriptions of God’s decisions invalidates Scripture.

So your thought brings down God while I am merely saying who He is.
Then you need to show us the hammered metal dome if the scriptures are journalism. You are backed into a corner of non-ecclesial nonsense.
Show us the hammered metal dome that God spoke into being.

And if you can’t show us, you need need to account for inspiration that goes beyond facts. And you are unwilling to do that apparently.
 
I’m sorry, what you said, or at least strongly imply here, flies in the face of explicit Catholic teaching on the nature of Inspiration.
Explicit teaching that Scripture has no error, despite you and @Mmarco’s soliloquies?
 
Then you need to show us the hammered metal dome if the scriptures are journalism
Totally irrelevant. Because we are discussing God’s clear commands to His chosen nation. So unless you want to bring something to the table to prove support for your Scripture defeating Marcionism, be my guest. Otherwise, don’t judge your Creator.
 
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goout:
Then you need to show us the hammered metal dome if the scriptures are journalism
Totally irrelevant. Because we are discussing God’s clear commands to His chosen nation. So unless you want to bring something to the table to prove support for your Scripture defeating Marcionism, be my guest. Otherwise, don’t judge your Creator.
Now you’re calling the words of scripture irrelevant. How do you justify your contradiction?
Here’s the passage, and tell us which of God’s directly quoted words you are now throwing out:
6 Then God said: Let there be a dome in the middle of the waters, to separate one body of water from the other.

7God made the dome,* and it separated the water below the dome from the water above the dome. And so it happened.d

8God called the dome “sky.” Evening came, and morning followed—the second day.
Tell us please how much you respect the exact words of God in scripture.
Show us the dome please. And if you can’t, please explain why we should disregard God’s verbatim words out of the bible.
 
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Now you’re calling the words of scripture irrelevant.
Are we discussing the Creation accounts or God’s command to the Israelites?

So if no, then, you are bringing in off topic things to suit your Marcionistic reading of Scripture.
Show us the dome please. And if you can’t, please explain why we should disregard God’s verbatim words out of the bible.
Like @Freddy you move the goalposts. And still you cannot score.
 
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goout:
Now you’re calling the words of scripture irrelevant.
Are we discussing the Creation accounts or God’s command to the Israelites?

So if no, then, you are bringing in off topic things to suit your Marcionistic reading of Scripture.
Show us the dome please. And if you can’t, please explain why we should disregard God’s verbatim words out of the bible.
Like @Freddy you move the goalposts. And still you cannot score.
Nobody is moving anything, Julius. The question has always been - do you take some of the stories in the bible literally. In my case, do you believe that God commanded the massacre of the Canaanites and in goouts, do you also believe in a literal translation of Genesis. And if only one, why not the other?

In other words, what do you use to differentiate between what actually happened and what is meant as allegory or poetic license?
 
John 1: 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ .

God revealed Himself gradually to humanity, taking into account the intellectual, moral and spiritual maturity of the people to whom He was revealing Himself. In the Old Testament we find . . . truth about God . . . yet a . . . not-yet-fulfilled understanding of God and the ways he imparts to us.

Only in Christ do we know who . . . fully . . . who God is. . . and how we are called to serve him.
 
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This is a heresy 😦
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it is de facto not a heresy. End of story. You are wrong.
 
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