George W. Bush: "I'm worried that I might be the last Republican president."

[SuperLuigi]

A needless worry IMO. GWB should have worried more about what he was doing to the country while he was President. From what I’ve read, he wasn’t too “Republican-like” himself with regard to spending, let alone the invasion of Iraq.

I agree. He should look at some of the polls and who ran this year if he’s so worried, not to mention the Democratic Party’s insistence on adopting the culture of death.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Actually the Tea Party may have played a role in carrying Donald Trump to the nomination.

“To some, his rise is clearly the Tea Party’s fault. The right-wingers, this argument goes, weakened and divided the party, stoking people’s rage against Washington and government. With racial undertones, their rallying cries preyed on fear and hatred. Figures like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh spent years telling the conservative base that Republican officeholders were selling them out at every turn, and that the only solution was to toss out anyone who’d been in office for more than five minutes—to elect new representatives whose answer to everything, even funding the normal operations of government, would be: “Hell, no.” They encouraged the base’s paranoia and conspiracy theories; its distrust of institutions, including political parties and the media; and its irrational hatred of anything associated with Barack Obama.”

“Was it any wonder, then, that a candidate came along whose anger was even more consuming and less constructive, whose disregard for political norms was even more flamboyant, whose appeals to racial resentment were even more overt, whose disregard for fact and fondness for conspiracy was even more pronounced? As the conservative writer Matt Lewis put it last week, “Ted Cruz helped create an environment where populist demagoguery would flourish on the right.” But Cruz was hoist by his own petard, Lewis wrote, when Tea Party figures like Sarah Palin and Ann Coulter found Trump’s brand of this tonic even more potent. Trump, in this view, was just Cruz on steroids.”

theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/did-the-tea-party-create-donald-trump/482004/

I would expect such garbage and propaganda from the atlantic.

However, what created Donald Trump was the establishment not listening to the people and their arrogance thinking that spending money would bury him.

Jeb spent $100 million in the primary and got nowhere, The DNC presumptive nominee is outspending him 30:1 in some swing states and it’s still close.

Oh, and BTW, I thought the TEA PARTY was too “stupid and uneducated” to bring about something like this.

 

[SuperLuigi]

The Republican Party (at least until Trump) has been for the last 65 years mostly the party of big business. Whatever helps big business, is what the party is for, and whatever hurts big business is what the party is against.

Actually, the Democrats too as well as independents have been a big part of big business.

For instance, Walmart is lobbying for a minimum wage hike so it can put its small business competitors out of work.

But probably won’t see that on the 10 PM news, NPR CNN or in the paper.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Actually, the Democrats too as well as independents have been a big part of big business.

For instance, Walmart is lobbying for a minimum wage hike so it can put its small business competitors out of work.

But probably won’t see that on the 10 PM news, NPR CNN or in the paper.

And one may recall that Hillary Clinton was on the board of directors of Walmart at one time.

 

[Jeanne_S]

I would expect such garbage and propaganda from the atlantic.

However, what created Donald Trump was the establishment not listening to the people and their arrogance thinking that spending money would bury him.

Jeb spent $100 million in the primary and got nowhere, The DNC presumptive nominee is outspending him 30:1 in some swing states and it’s still close.

Oh, and BTW, I thought the TEA PARTY was too “stupid and uneducated” to bring about something like this.

:thumbsup:For better or worse DT is a reaction to the establishment

 

[Peebo]

I trust Donald Trump about as far as I could throw Hilary Clinton

 

[Sy_Noe]

I would expect such garbage and propaganda from the atlantic.

However, what created Donald Trump was the establishment not listening to the people and their arrogance thinking that spending money would bury him.

Jeb spent $100 million in the primary and got nowhere, The DNC presumptive nominee is outspending him 30:1 in some swing states and it’s still close.

Oh, and BTW, I thought the TEA PARTY was too “stupid and uneducated” to bring about something like this.

:doh2: Sorry I just forgot for a very brief moment where I was and forgot the CAF test for what passes as non garbage sources. I’m sure I’ll do it again though.

 

[meltzerboy]

The Republican Party (at least until Trump) has been for the last 65 years mostly the party of big business. Whatever helps big business, is what the party is for, and whatever hurts big business is what the party is against.

The Republican Party certainly has a tradition of being the party of big business as far back as the so-called liberal Rockefeller Republicans, while the Democratic Party has traditionally been the party for the working people. Whether that is still true today, I don’t know. I think the two parties have converged so that they are both primarily for big business, although the Dems still claim they are for workers’ rights and unions while the Repubs always talk about getting rid of big-government economic restrictions that hamper small business. One thing is for sure: both parties court working people with a vengeance, particularly at election time. My gut feeling is that most of us are fools for putting our faith and trust in either party.

 

[wllmjoseph]

It is very possible that George W. Bush will be the last Republican president. There several factors that need to be taken into consideration. President George W. Bush had no business sending American troops to a land war in Iraq to topple Saddam Husein. The American lives that were lost was tragic not to mention that considerable debt our country ran up as a result of the war with no exit strategy. It is because of the Iraq war that the Republican party has a credibility problem.
Another factor that needs to be taken into consideration is that the demographics of our country has changed. Hispanics are now the largest minority in America. The Republicans have not done a good job in being a more inclusive party. They have failed to be a viable alternative in the Hispanic community. It doesn’t help that the current Republican candidate for President has said everything that he could to antagonize Hispanic Americans. For a Republican candidate to be elected President will need get get at least 40% of the Hispanic vote. At this time the African American vote in not even in play for Trump. I seriously doubt that he will get 10% of the African American vote.
I much as I hate to admit it President Obama is right when he states that the rise of Donald Trump is due to the failure of the Republican party. The anti establishment bias within the Republican party is due to the failure of the leadership. An America where the Republican party is not a viable alternative to the Democratic party is not good. God willing the Republicans will wake up before it is too late.

 

[_Abyssinia]

In 2012, after Mitt Romney lost the presidential election, an opinion article by Lawrence Hunter was published on Forbes titled, “The Grand Old Party Is Over” and went on to say, “It’s pathetic—and prophetic: The Republican Party is over.”

The results of the 2016 presidential race is yet to come, but the Republican Party didn’t die with that loss, they won a majority in the Senate in the 2014 midterms for a start, so George W Bush may sincerely have the worry he has, but just as he claim of political death of a party was premature, this worry about there may never being another Republican president may be too.

 

[meltzerboy]

I trust Donald Trump about as far as I could throw Hilary Clinton

LOL She has put on a little weight as she grows older.

 

[_Abyssinia]

It is very possible that George W. Bush will be the last Republican president. There several factors that need to be taken into consideration. President George W. Bush had no business sending American troops to a land war in Iraq to topple Saddam Husein. The American lives that were lost was tragic not to mention that considerable debt our country ran up as a result of the war with no exit strategy. It is because of the Iraq war that the Republican party has a credibility problem.
Another factor that needs to be taken into consideration is that the demographics of our country has changed. Hispanics are now the largest minority in America. The Republicans have not done a good job in being a more inclusive party. They have failed to be a viable alternative in the Hispanic community. It doesn’t help that the current Republican candidate for President has said everything that he could to antagonize Hispanic Americans. For a Republican candidate to be elected President will need get get at least 40% of the Hispanic vote. At this time the African American vote in not even in play for Trump. I seriously doubt that he will get 10% of the African American vote.
I much as I hate to admit it President Obama is right when he states that the rise of Donald Trump is due to the failure of the Republican party. The anti establishment bias within the Republican party is due to the failure of the leadership. An America where the Republican party is not a viable alternative to the Democratic party is not good. God willing the Republicans will wake up before it is too late.

Donald Trump, is getting more support from Hispanics, than John McCain or Mitt Romney got: thehill.com/latino/287086-poll-trumps-hispanic-support-on-par-with-romney-2012

Trump would not need to get 40% of he Hispanic vote to win, he could win potentially with less than 20% overall minority votes for him if the White turnout increases. Check this out: forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=14056148&postcount=913

The Republicans haven’t done a good enough overall job in reaching out to Hispanics and other minorities and providing a message which resonates and brings people into the Republican Party. The Republican Party needs to do a better job.

 

[TCEL]

I graduated college six years ago, and ever since I’ve had similar musings regarding Bush being the last Republican President. It’s not the war (most people in Defense I know of agreed we had good reasons), and it’s not the economy. Those are superficial reasons. It’s because we’ve exhausted the reserves we’d been borrowing from regarding the family and human nature. Marriage isn’t only about adults, and Sacraments are real. We either never inherited those beliefs, or we spurned them. Both conservatives and liberals fall in these camps. Thing is, we haven’t exhausted the path we’re going down. We haven’t hit bottom. So we will mistakenly keep going down the wrong path. That is, unless we evangelize.

 

[GEddie]

It doesn’t just take evangelization, it takes **penance. **A lot of it. But the coming four years (if not 8) will provide plenty of it.

ICXC NIKA

 

[Neofight]

I figured this out 26 years ago. It wasn’t that I left the GOP, it was that the GOP left me…seems many more are feeling that way today.

 

[Stylteralmaldo]

Well, for this voter, my chips are in for Trump because Clinton isn’t an option Trump is an unknown due to him being essentially 180 degrees different than he historically has been.

If Clinton wins, I’ll likely vote 3rd party going forward as I’ll blame the Republicans for allowing Trump to take what should have been a sure thing.

If Trump wins and he’s as bad as I fear, I will also be done with the Republican Party. If he is a surprisingly good President, that is the only hope the Republicans have for this voter.

 

[Robyn_p]

Are ALL US Catholics socially conservative ? Are ALL US Catholics pro-gun ? Are ALL US Catholics illiberal ?

No. Most aren’t. The problem is Roe v Wade sent a lot of Catholics who held the Church’s teaching on abortion into the Republican Party, but that only resulted in Republican positions being conflated with Church teaching. That’s why so many “pro-life” people are pro-torture, pro-death penalty, pro nuclear weapons etc…despite Church teaching to the contrary…

Couple that with the constant demonization of Democrats (sometimes justifiably, the Democrat Party was stupid for making pelvic issues their top priority over the environment and the poor) and use of the “lesser of two evils” excuse (which really just meant vote for anyone who gives lip service to the pro-life cause) and you end up with the political climate we have today. Where “good” Christians are out in public promoting Trump and his evils as “the most Christian candidate” simply because he’s not a Democrat.

We deserve whoever we get this election.

 

[SuperLuigi]

:doh2: Sorry I just forgot for a very brief moment where I was and forgot the CAF test for what passes as non garbage sources. I’m sure I’ll do it again though.

Posting nonsense from left-wing blogs won’t work on here, nor will whining from the American left about how “biased” these forums allegedly are.

Strike Two.

 

[Robyn_p]

I figured this out 26 years ago. It wasn’t that I left the GOP, it was that the GOP left me…seems many more are feeling that way today.

Yep. I changed my voter registration to “other” this week. Been a long time coming, but I couldn’t take the hypocrisy and manipulation anymore. After this last convention, where there wasn’t even a single mention of the rights of the unborn (first time since the 80s) I had enough. They expect us to fall in line again, but I’m not doing it.

 

[mary_bobo]

Yep. I changed my voter registration to “other” this week. Been a long time coming, but I couldn’t take the hypocrisy and manipulation anymore. After this last convention, where there wasn’t even a single mention of the rights of the unborn (first time since the 80s) I had enough. They expect us to fall in line again, but I’m not doing it.

And you think you are going to get any help for the unborn from HC?