George Will renounces GOP, declares ‘This is not my party'

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Tomdstone said:
It seems odd that a conservative would want Hillary elected president?
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Hillary’s instincts are Democratic, of course, but she’s much more of a centrist by nature than, say, Bernie Sanders (who has only been a member of the Democratic Party for about 5 minutes anyway). And compared to Trump, for many conservatives Hillary is practically a political messiah.

Maybe also strategic thinking? - let Trump go down to an ignominious defeat this time, demonstrating that such dangerous demagoguery doesn’t work in a general election, and then have a more moderate, willing-to-compromise and altogether less egregious candidate in 2020, to put the GOP back in the White House. Were I American, (where I would broadly be a Republican), this is what I’d intend to happen.
 
Murmurs said:
Hillary’s instincts are Democratic, of course, but she’s much more of a centrist by nature than, say, Bernie Sanders (who has only been a member of the Democratic Party for about 5 minutes anyway). And compared to Trump, for many conservatives Hillary is practically a political messiah.

Maybe also strategic thinking? - let Trump go down to an ignominious defeat this time, demonstrating that such dangerous demagoguery doesn’t work in a general election, and then have a more moderate, willing-to-compromise and altogether less egregious candidate in 2020, to put the GOP back in the White House. Were I American, (where I would broadly be a Republican), this is what I’d intend to happen.
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It is a sad commentary on the state of Democrat Party that a woman who supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand, homosexual marriage and forcing Nuns to pay for contraceptives is considered a “centrist”
 
estesbob said:
It is a sad commentary on the state of Democrat Party that a woman who supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand, homosexual marriage and forcing Nuns to pay for contraceptives is considered a “centrist”
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Be that as it may (and you’re right!), the point probably still stands.
 
Yes, I too feel sorry for Will, but he is one of the few Republicans I feel sorry for.

The Republican Party did it to themselves…It was once a great party and a great institution…it died (or did it commit suicide) soon after its peak, which was 1980-1992.

Shortly there after, the party hierarchy perpetuated the lie that the GOP was a party of the populace, not of business…and, unfortunately the only folks who bought it were those who…well, I don’t want to go down that road, so let me say…those who are Trump supporters. And, that segment of the party grew, and displaced the old guard of the Republican Party.

So, while Will claims the Republican Party is no longer his party, it has not been his party or the likes of fine men like him, for well over a decade and a half.
 
estesbob said:
It is a sad commentary on the state of Democrat Party that a woman who supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand, homosexual marriage and forcing Nuns to pay for contraceptives is considered a “centrist”
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Moral Relativism is alive and well
 
estesbob said:
It is a sad commentary on the state of Democrat Party that a woman who supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand, homosexual marriage and forcing Nuns to pay for contraceptives is considered a “centrist”
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No, it is a sad commentary on the population as a whole, because there are in fact more extreme elements of the population on both sides of Hillary’s positions. Being a centrist does not mean she is correct.
 
shockerfan said:
Moral Relativism is alive and well
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Of course, it is only because the democrat party is so bad that one can morally vote for the republicans. There are very few republican politicians for whom a faithful Catholic can vote for on their own merits.
 
Mr. Will should start his own party.

He could call it “Democrat-lite.”

Their slogan could be “We’ll make America just a tiny bit better than Hillary and Obama.” Or perhaps “Make America not quite as bad Hell.”
 
Yes, Mr. Will, this is your party. As the Republicans chanted at their 2012 covention, “we built this!” You and your ilk now own it. The chickens have come home to the Orange Roost.
 
George Will, whether he admits it or not is part of the ‘elite’ class. He is a rich, well educated, cosmopolitan, globalist. The people he considers the uneducated, rural, proletariat class have voted Trump in as the Republican nominee. Since no matter what his class does, this doesn’t seem to be changing, he is leaving the party. He’s right, it isn’t his party if this is the case and Trump is definitely not his nominee.

His class feels the proletariat are to be ruled, not rulers. And every time the proletariat tried to rule, they failed (e.g., the French Revolution.)

He could be correct.
 
gilliam said:
George Will, whether he admits it or not is part of the ‘elite’ class. He is a rich, well educated, cosmopolitan, globalist. The people he considers the uneducated, rural, proletariat class have voted Trump in as the Republican nominee. Since no matter what his class does, this doesn’t seem to be changing, he is leaving the party. He’s right, it isn’t his party if this is the case and Trump is definitely not his nominee.

His class feels the proletariat are to be ruled, not rulers. And every time the proletariat have tried to rule, they failed (e.g., the French Revolution.)

He could be correct.
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estesbob said:
It is a sad commentary on the state of Democrat Party that a woman who supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand, homosexual marriage and forcing Nuns to pay for contraceptives is considered a “centrist”
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George Will have officially become a member of the Peanut Gallery.
 
does this mean he will not be a FOX news commentator anymore?

I baven’t had cable tv for several years so I haven’t seen much of him on FOX, but have read some of his opinion pieces.
 
Joie_de_Vivre said:
Donald Trump says what he means except for all those times he has to walk back racist or misogynistic statements. Donald Trump is the first major candidate to publicly advocate war crimes.
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Bush and Obama have been drone striking terrorist and their families for nearly 2 decades. Why doesn’t it only both Will now?
 
Will is not the only quasi-Republican who is actually a “party of one”. There are others.
 
gilliam said:
George Will, whether he admits it or not is part of the ‘elite’ class. He is a rich, well educated, cosmopolitan, globalist. The people he considers the uneducated, rural, proletariat class have voted Trump in as the Republican nominee. Since no matter what his class does, this doesn’t seem to be changing, he is leaving the party. He’s right, it isn’t his party if this is the case and Trump is definitely not his nominee.

His class feels the proletariat are to be ruled, not rulers. And every time the proletariat tried to rule, they failed (e.g., the French Revolution.)

He could be correct.
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Would you consider the likes of William F. Buckley and George Plimpton to fit that characterization you’ve given of Mr. Will?

“Old School” Conservatism, at least from this foreigners standpoint, seems like its miles apart from the rather strong sense of populism on display in the Republican Party at this point.

It seemed a lot more…sober and more concerned with the achievable as opposed to chasing down a dream.
 
estesbob said:
It is a sad commentary on the state of Democrat Party that a woman who supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand, homosexual marriage and forcing Nuns to pay for contraceptives is considered a "centrist"
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Sadder still a “political messiah.”

Peace, Mark
 
estesbob said:
It is a sad commentary on the state of Democrat Party that a woman who supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand, homosexual marriage and forcing Nuns to pay for contraceptives is considered a “centrist”
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What might be even sadder is the state of those Catholic Americans, who at the same time will support a candidate who has complete and total disregard for social justice.

The mere act of voting for either candidate is a lose/lose situation, and not a lesser of two evils scenario.
 
Neofight said:
What might be even sadder is the state of those Catholic Americans, who at the same time will support a candidate who has complete and total disregard for social justice.

The mere act of voting for either candidate is a lose/lose situation, and not a lesser of two evils scenario.
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I’ve always found it strange how you can completely change the meaning of the word “justice” by merely putting “social” in front of it.
 
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