George Zimmerman makes initial court appearance in Trayvon Martin shooting, will plead not guilty

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catharina said:
Still, basic: when/where/how did their paths cross?
Did the teen go out to hunt for a Zimmerman?
No, he went out to buy Skittles for his brother and an iced tea.
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Their paths crossed with both parties legally exercising their rights.
Did Zimmerman go out to hunt Martin?
 
Calgar said:
I’ve seen a lot of people die.

Do you think everyone gets all tough and manly when they are scared?
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Did they scream out loudly? 'Cause I just don’t recall that except in one case, and yes, I’ve seen some people die too.
 
mtbender said:
Their paths crossed with both parties legally exercising their rights.
Did Zimmerman go out to hunt Martin?
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When one is packing a gun, it’s not
a stretch to think one might be looking for trouble.
 
What about the fact that Zimmernan has a habit of grabbing people he’s following and holding them down… We have the fact that Trevyon’s girlfirend was on the phone with him, and I beileve records may prove this and he was telling her how scared he was that Zimmerman was following him. And she said run, he ran. But suddenly Trevyon changes his mind and decides to attack Zimmerman Zimmerman has the record too.
 
Calgar said:
That’s what I said, Scott. It’s seeker that doesn’t think that.
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How would you know what Seekerz thinks before she says it? Think I need someone like you on my side, right about now…
 
catharina said:
When one is packing a gun, it’s not
a stretch to think one might be looking for trouble.
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Now what is it again that hunters do: spot their prey, pursue, and pounce?
I’m not one myself, but that’s my best guess. 😉
 
SwizzleStick said:
"Alan Dershowitz: Zimmerman Arrest Affidavit “Irresponsible And Unethical”

Most affidavits of probable cause are very thin. This is so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge,” Dershowitz said. “There’s simply nothing in there
that would justify second degree murder.” …

Source link: realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/04/12/alan_dershowitz_zimmerman_arrest_affidavit_irresponsible_and_unethical.html
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We should thank the kind gentleman for his opinion, I guess. 🤷 Not that it matters in a court of law.
 
catharina said:
When one is packing a gun, it’s not
a stretch to think one might be looking for trouble.
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So everyone who carries a weapon legally must be looking for trouble?

I think it is beyond a stretch to imply possession of a weapon equates to the desire to use it in malice.
 
seekerz said:
Did they scream out loudly? 'Cause I just don’t recall that except in one case, and yes, I’ve seen some people die too.
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I’m sorry that you had to deal with that.

I’m at 15 years of military service right now (a few of those years in a combat zone) and I can say that yes, many scream out loudly. Are you satisfied now?
 
SwizzleStick said:
That makes sense. I’d forgotten that Dad had to call the police in the morning to find out about his son.

I don’t understand either. That is really sad.
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Who understands most things a 15 or 16 yr old does on the average day, let alone when scared/upset? I’m guessing that person would most likely not be a parent of teens…?
 
seekerz said:
We should thank the kind gentleman for his opinion, I guess. 🤷 Not that it matters in a court of law.
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To be honest, I had to look him up because I’ve heard of him, but didn’t really know anything about him. He is a criminal and civil liberties attorney and he writes for the Huffington Post.
 
SwizzleStick said:
"Alan Dershowitz: Zimmerman Arrest Affidavit “Irresponsible And Unethical”

Most affidavits of probable cause are very thin. This is so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge,” Dershowitz said. “There’s simply nothing in there
that would justify second degree murder.” …

Source link and video: realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/04/12/alan_dershowitz_zimmerman_arrest_affidavit_irresponsible_and_unethical.html
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What I’ve been saying all along. On judicial review this indictment is going to get tossed.
 
Calgar said:
I’m sorry that you had to deal with that.

I’m at 15 years of military service right now (a few of those years in a combat zone) and I can say that yes, many scream out loudly. Are you satisfied now?
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Why would proof of end-of-life screams “satisfy” me? :confused: Maybe you should have been clear about your combat record? I tend not to simply accept a claim made by a total stranger without some sort of reference point.
 
seekerz said:
Who understands most things a 15 or 16 yr old does on the average day, let alone when scared/upset? I’m guessing that person would most likely not be a parent of teens…?
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You talk a lot about facts and now you are saying TM was 15 or 16?
 
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