Get Rid of the Celibacy Requirement

[ConcernedConvert]

Nobody likes to acknowledge it, but homosexuals tend to have significantly more sexual problems. Which is why this issue is a homosexual issue.

 

[Iterum]

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Absolutely not.

 

[SnowRose]

The priest doesn’t get extra funding. He or she is given to manage the salary they have, as it is seen as their choice, not a matter of parish finance.

This, again, is something the Catholic church theorethically may do differently. As I said, there are examples. I didn’t say you would adopt them wholesale.

tis 28 aug. 2018 kl. 21:48 skrev I am a Catholic a wife and a mother and I love studying the Catholic faith. catholic_forums@discoursemail.com:

 

[hergratefulchild]

What about converts like myself who never married but had a child and now live separately from the family unit? Through no fault of their own

 

[KJW5551]

Productive! Since you feel so strongly about the issue, why not?

 

[Phemie]

KJW5551:

free housing (yes, some rectories will need remodeling), free education at the nearest Catholic k-12 school, and a car paid by for by the diocese

It all sounds good on paper but in my parish, we can barely afford to get the water stains on the walls fixed. The priest lives in a small rectory that has very poor airconditioning. We are just now working on raising funds to get these things and more fixed. Fortunately people are doing what they can to help, but we are a small parish in a small, not so wealthy community. In most all of our bulletins the budget is shown and we never meet the budget on our basic necessities, let alone offer free housing. We have to have a big fundraiser every year to keep the school up.

Where would we get the money for free housing, and a car comes with expenses also. They need gas and repairs.

As I said, this all sounds good on paper but in reality, it would just add new problems.

What? The priest pays to use the rectory??

Ours purchase their own car but they get a car allowance every month. Their housing is free though it’s considered a taxable benefit.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

The priest doesn’t get extra funding. He or she is given to manage the salary they have, as it is seen as their choice, not a matter of parish finance.

This, again, is something the Catholic church theorethically may do differently. As I said, there are examples. I didn’t say you would adopt them wholesale.

I get that. From my protestant days I remember a lot of pastors had second jobs.

My only point is, a married priest would have a lot more expenses than a single priest and I do not believe the Church could afford that.

tis 28 aug. 2018 kl. 21:48 skrev I am a Catholic a wife and a mother and I love studying the Catholic faith. catholic_forums@discoursemail.com:

???

 

[MagdalenaRita]

What? The priest pays to use the rectory??

I didn’t say that. I said there are repairs that are needed and we can barely afford to do those let alone fix it up so a family could live there, including all the other costs that would come along with a family.

I am surprised so many here are making it sound as if a raising a family is something that wouldn’t cost very much. Makes me wonder if a lot of people making these comments are single.

 

[KJW5551]

I am surprised so many here are making it sound as if a raising a family is something that wouldn’t cost very much.

Hmmm, I never said that. I said that several major household costs would be paid for or mostly paid for by the parish/diocese, so it’s financially feasible. Logically it must be since the Eastern Catholics do it.

 

[billsannie]

To some extent this is probably true. Homosexuals still face a lot of abuse in society, and abuse does tend to create emotional problems. But before homosexual pedophilia was a thing we had a problem with heterosexual pedophilia. Sexual abuse, of a child or adult, is a symptom of a sickness, no matter who does it.

Homosexual men are and have been faithful celibate priests. They aren’t the problem. The problem is the sick men and those they abuse, either sexually or through fear. It’s a no-brainer that a man who can’t maintain a successful relationship is more likely to be one of the sick ones.

 

[glencor63]

I agree that married men should be allowed to be priests. Celibacy is a charism. Most people do not have the charism of celibacy. Most men and women want marriage and children. That desire alone eliminates a huge percentage of potential priests. It leaves the door open to more than a few men becoming priests to escape unresolved psychosexual disorders. Mandating celibacy is not scriptural. The discipline was implemented only in the last 1000 years.

 

[mrsdizzyd]

How do you handle that if the priest and his wife would like the mom to be home with the kids? To me that means homeschooling is out, stay at home mom would be out. Many traditional Catholics believe in the mom and wife being home, at least part time.

Many of the pastor’s wives I knew did stay at home when the kids were small. The pastor at the church I grew up in was an executive for a local corporation. He was given a small stipend by the church, but otherwise provided for his family on his own.

 

[SnowRose]

I’m sorry, no idea where the additional parts came from. I answered your post via my email, not on the site.

 

[Thom18]

I’ve said it before, and I’ll continue to say: celibacy isn’t the problem, so marriage isn’t the solution. It’s as simple as that.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

lol no problem

 

[Ioannes_L]

From time to time someone will always come up with this ‘abolish the celibacy’ mambo jambo.
If you’re unhappy with the Catholic Church just go to the copycats.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

Many of the pastor’s wives I knew did stay at home when the kids were small. The pastor at the church I grew up in was an executive for a local corporation. He was given a small stipend by the church, but otherwise provided for his family on his own.

That is what I remember when in protestant churches also. It would be hard for a Catholic priest to hold down a second job. Our pastor is extremely busy running three parishes. He has another priest helping but they are very busy.

 

[mrsdizzyd]

mrsdizzyd:

Many of the pastor’s wives I knew did stay at home when the kids were small. The pastor at the church I grew up in was an executive for a local corporation. He was given a small stipend by the church, but otherwise provided for his family on his own.

That is what I remember when in protestant churches also. It would be hard for a Catholic priest to hold down a second job. Our pastor is extremely busy running three parishes. He has another priest helping but they are very busy.

It wouldn’t be so hard on him if there were more priests and deacons!

The church I grew up in had 2 associate ministers and about 8 deacons (many who were retired). There were enough people to share the load. No calls went unanswered.

I guess the question is whether or not opening the priesthood to married men would result in enough new vocations to allow for time for working and family.

This is a question we cannot possibly know the answer to unless and until the church removes the celibacy requirement.

 

[glencor63]

I grew up Protestant. My pastor’s children attended public school. Homeschooling is not a requirement for educating children. It’s a luxury of the middle and upper classes.

 

[glencor63]

The culture of the Catholic Church will need to change if married men are ordained. The laity can and will evolve with those changes.