Gingrich: John Bolton will be my secretary of state

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You don’t think the extreme right is actually right-wing? That doesn’t make sense Cmatt. So they are left? Your grasp of politics seems to be lacking.

Ishii
No Ishii my grasp of politics is not lacking. I just think the wrong terminology is used.
 
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Gingrich and Bolton:

Surrender Is Not an Option: Defending America at the United Nations [Hardcover]
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Swept into office by a tide of anti-Bush sentiment, a charismatic young Democratic president yanks the nation’s politics to the left while pushing a big-government, universal healthcare agenda.

President Barack Obama in 2010?

Actually, it was William Jefferson Clinton in 1994, the year Republican House leaders introduced the first Contract with America.

The Clinton administration led the Democrats through a spate of unchecked legislative action, passing items such as the Brady Bill, the Earned Income Tax Credit, and the Budget Reconciliation Act with scarcely a Republican vote.

Ironically, about the only thing slowing the liberal agenda at the time was an unpopular healthcare reform effort championed by first lady Hillary Clinton.

Just six weeks before the midterm elections that year, about 335 GOP candidates gathered on the steps of the Capitol to sign a document pledging 10 key reforms within the first 100 days of the 104th Congress.

The strategy, masterminded by Reps. Newt Gingrich and Richard Armey, helped the GOP gain 54 House seats — a stunning victory giving them control of the lower chamber for the first time in 40 years.

Gingrich was named speaker of the House, the first Republican to hold the position since Massachusetts Rep. Joseph W. Martin wielded the gavel in 1955.

In the wake of the contract, the GOP won the next three House and Senate elections, kicking off a decade of Republican congressional leadership.

In retrospect, the contract reflected widespread voter backlash to the Clinton administration’s early leftward tilt. The GOP sweep forced Clinton to revise his tactics and begin governing from the center.

The House passed nine out of the 10 promised reforms. But several agenda items became tangled up in the Senate. Clinton, who called it “the contract on America,” threatened to wield a presidential veto.

Ultimately, the contract’s success in controlling the growth of federal government was mixed. But it did help rein in a Democratic president and contribute to a balanced budget — a turnabout that Republicans would love to reprise this year.
 
Bolton did not make the decision to invade Iraq and if you have evidence that he did please submit.
No, of course he didn’t make that decision. It was the call of President Bush. However, Bolton was very much part of the neoconservative, or if you object to that term we can use the older term of “hawk,” alliance of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Libby, Feith et. al. who undermined Sec. of State Colin Powell (a moderate who opposed unnecessary wars.)
The epithet “war monger” is easy to throw around…make the case please. “He lobbied for years…” ?? What does this mean? Lobby for whom…what?
Wow…honestly, haven’t noticed Bolton’s urging for a war on Iran? Its been ongoing for six years. When he was in the Bush administration, he kept pushing for the US to attack. Even after he left, he kept up the public pressure, and we can be sure worked the private avenues as well. I won’t try to document every public statement he has made in favor of attacking Iran, but here is a 2007 article while President Bush was still in office. After Bush was out of office, Bolton turned his attentions to pressuring Israel. Here is one article about his many public statement urging an Israeli attack on Iran.
jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=185060
 
No, of course he didn’t make that decision. It was the call of President Bush. However, Bolton was very much part of the neoconservative, or if you object to that term we can use the older term of “hawk,” alliance of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Libby, Feith et. al. who undermined Sec. of State Colin Powell (a moderate who opposed unnecessary wars.)
Well, I guess you made my point:

Colin Powell is a moderate.

He is a Republican.

He supported, endorsed and presumably voted for Obama.

So a moderate Republican is one who supports and votes for the most radical Democrats in -]Congress/-] … politics.
 
No, of course he didn’t make that decision. It was the call of President Bush. However, Bolton was very much part of the neoconservative, or if you object to that term we can use the older term of “hawk,” alliance of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Libby, Feith et. al. who undermined Sec. of State Colin Powell (a moderate who opposed unnecessary wars.)
“Is Colin Powell a Republican?”

americanthinker.com/2011/12/is_colin_powell_a_republican.html

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No, of course he didn’t make that decision. It was the call of President Bush. However, Bolton was very much part of the neoconservative, or if you object to that term we can use the older term of “hawk,” alliance of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Libby, Feith et. al. who undermined Sec. of State Colin Powell (a moderate who opposed unnecessary wars.)
Colin Powell. Now there’s a man who should be president! I wish he was running.
 
“Is Colin Powell a Republican?”

americanthinker.com/2011/12/is_colin_powell_a_republican.html

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Of course he was a Republican. Anyone can be a Republican if they register as such. He moved up in the army and was promoted under GOP presidents so not hard to understand why he used “Republican” for his party affiliation. Now is he conservative? Obviously not. Does conservative speak to foreign policy? There can be much disagreement among conservatives as to what foreign policy we should follow. One isn’t necessarily disqualified from conservative ranks for advocating a certain foreign policy, nor does someone automatically become a conservative for advocating a certain policy. Powell is pretty much a socially liberal Republican - his conservative credentials were always suspect to me. I was disappointed in his support for Obama - it seemed disloyal. Then again, Peggy Noonan supported Obama as well, so who knows. Obama hoodwinked a lot of people into voting for the hope and change.

Ishii
 
What terminology should be used?
I don’t know Ishii. Conservative/liberal/moderate? Democratic Party for the one major Party and Republican for the other. I’m even ok with left and right and center. But then since I don’t think the conservatives are right on everything, I just used QMs. No big deal. You asked about the OMs was all.
 
No, of course he didn’t make that decision. It was the call of President Bush. However, Bolton was very much part of the neoconservative, or if you object to that term we can use the older term of “hawk,” alliance of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Libby, Feith et. al. who undermined Sec. of State Colin Powell (a moderate who opposed unnecessary wars.)

Wow…honestly, haven’t noticed Bolton’s urging for a war on Iran? Its been ongoing for six years. When he was in the Bush administration, he kept pushing for the US to attack. Even after he left, he kept up the public pressure, and we can be sure worked the private avenues as well. I won’t try to document every public statement he has made in favor of attacking Iran, but here is a 2007 article while President Bush was still in office. After Bush was out of office, Bolton turned his attentions to pressuring Israel. Here is one article about his many public statement urging an Israeli attack on Iran.
jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=185060
Bolton has not urged a “war on Iran” and the Jerusalem post article did not make that case either. Rather than urging Israel to strike he simply made an observation about the window of opportunity for them to do so. He is an expert on ME affairs and he is well respected for his opinions. He is also pro-US and pro_Israel…not a war monger. Nice try but again…he did not urge Israel to do anything. Read it without prejudice and it reads differently.
 
Newt just lost any hope he may have had for my vote.
Which was exactly zero…I am guessing. 🤷 I would like for someone…anyone, to explain why they enjoy Obama’s leadership as POTUS. What has he done that has helped our country’s economic ills? Anyone…anyone…Bueller, Bueller.:rolleyes:
 
Which was exactly zero…I am guessing. 🤷 I would like for someone…anyone, to explain why they enjoy Obama’s leadership as POTUS. What has he done that has helped our country’s economic ills? Anyone…anyone…Bueller, Bueller.:rolleyes:
Well he’s told me to eat my peas…
 
Which was exactly zero…I am guessing. 🤷 I would like for someone…anyone, to explain why they enjoy Obama’s leadership as POTUS. What has he done that has helped our country’s economic ills? Anyone…anyone…Bueller, Bueller.:rolleyes:
Ok this is going to come as a complete shocker I know to a lot you. Sit down for this one. But there are some of us who don’t necessarily think Obama is perfect but still support him over the alternative. I know total shock, huh. :eek:

See we just believe he is overall the better of the 2 major candidates regardless of who the GOP chooses from this field. 🤷

Take me for instance since I can only speak for myself. Healthcare has always been a very huge life issue to me .I personally support a single payer healthcare system among all the various imperfect models but would have at least preferred a public option. Single payer was not even on the table. Was I disappointed we didn’t even get a public option? You betcha. Still am. But one thing I know is I can not count on any Republicans to support such a plan to care for our sick who can not afford adequate care under our current system. Oh sure they go to the ER people will say. Who do think is paying for those costly ER trips? Someone if not those patients. In any case I believe “Obamacare” as it is known in these circles, aka the Affordable Care Act, was better than nothing and the status quo. Republicans have been in power and never emphasized or prioritized doing anything to fix our nation’s healthcare problems prior to Obama.

I am also a big advocate in these budgetary times of raising taxes on those who have most benefited from this economy and who can most afford to pay more. Asking them to sacrifice a bit more by going back to their tax rates of the 90s was not too much to ask instead of wanting the less fortunate to sacrifice the most by budgetary cuts in programs many people need and depend on in which to live and survive. Now before anyone decides to say raising these taxes will not solve the entire budgetary matter, no one including Obama has said it will. But it should be a part of the equation or solution. Revenues on the table as the saying goes. So was I disappointed Obama went along with an extension of these tax cuts for the rich a yr ago? You betcha. Still am. But at the same time I wanted to see unemployment benefits for instance extended and knew he had to compromise.

On the foreign policy front if a Republican POTUS had been Commander in Chief when Osama bin Laden was found, we would never have heard the end of praisies for that Commander in Chief.

I also supported the ending of DADT.

Do I support the Republican assault on unions and middle class workers as done in Wisconson and attempted in Ohio. No.

Is the economy still bad for too many. Yes. But would unemployment had been even worse if not for what jobs were saved by the stimulus. Of course.

Have I agreed with Obama’s leadership on everything? No. I could vote 3rd party. We have had for instance the Green party where I live which has usually been on the ballot. But I know by doing so I would be helping the candidate with whom I disagree with more between the major 2 who have a chance to be POTUS.

I could go on. But I don’t expect the vast majority here on this forum to agree. It is afterall a very politically conservative forum with most in opposition of Barack Obama. But I hope this at least helps with your question coming from a different political perspective than yours. God bless you and peace. 🙂
 
Ok this is going to come as a complete shocker I know to a lot you. Sit down for this one. But there are some of us who don’t necessarily think Obama is perfect but still support him over the alternative. I know total shock, huh. :eek:
Judging from the list, you give about 99.99% support. Your only complaint is that President Obama isn’t far left ENOUGH.

I can’t imagine with disagreeing with another human more.
 
Judging from the list, you give about 99.99% support. Your only complaint is that President Obama isn’t far left ENOUGH.

I can’t imagine with disagreeing with another human more.
I don’t know about 99.9%. But you’re right. And perhaps I should have been paying attention more when he said there is not a red or blue America but a United States of America. But I do think he has led or governed more from the center in his attempts to compromise. More along the lines of Bill Clinton. The difference is today the other side has been against just about anything proposed by Barack Obama.
 
I don’t know about 99.9%. But you’re right. And perhaps I should have been paying attention more when he said there is not a red or blue America but a United States of America. But I do think he has led or governed more from the center in his attempts to compromise. More along the lines of Bill Clinton. The difference is today the other side has been against just about anything proposed by Barack Obama.
With good reason. Most Americans have been against just about anything proposed by Barack Obama. Excepting the killing of bin Laden, of course.
 
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