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Maranatha
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Given the Muslim reaction to the Popes speech are you afraid for his life?
Given the Muslim reaction to the Popes speech are you afraid for his life?
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tigerlily
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yes. some nutter somewhere will think of it somewhere. i just hope it doesn’t. can you imagine what would happen afterwards? a full out war between muslims and christians and i doubt very much the pope would desire that. he’s seen what the nazi’s did and lived through it. (didn’t his cousin die in the nazi genocide of disabled people?)
let’s hope and pray he’s kept safe. all it takes is the terrorists to be 1% lucky, the rest of us have to 100%.
let’s hope and pray he’s kept safe. all it takes is the terrorists to be 1% lucky, the rest of us have to 100%.
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Catholic29
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I think the Holy Father had better cancel his visit to Turkey (if the Turks don’t disinvite him), marshall his Swiss Guards and lock himself tightly away in the Vatican for the next several months until this situation calms down. Because I know there are more than a few Islamic zealots in Europe who would love to do him in, if or more likely when a Fatwa is issued for his head.
Though I most certainly pray cooler heads in the Muslim world will prevail in this mess…
Though I most certainly pray cooler heads in the Muslim world will prevail in this mess…
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YinYangMom
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The courgage to say what he did is evidence the Spirit is with Him.
I trust He will continue to be protected until he accomplishes the mission the Lord has willed for him.
If he is to be slain, as was Our Lord, we can be most assured his death will serve a monumental purpose to God’s overall plan. Only good would come from it.
But in the end, God’s will be done.
I trust He will continue to be protected until he accomplishes the mission the Lord has willed for him.
If he is to be slain, as was Our Lord, we can be most assured his death will serve a monumental purpose to God’s overall plan. Only good would come from it.
But in the end, God’s will be done.
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maryj
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Agreed, God’s will be done.
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JKirkLVNV
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Yes, I fear he will be killed. We should pray for him.
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Eden
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Amen from me, too. It’s difficult to accept that the Lord’s plan may not be what we would desire but I’m trying to find a place of peace in my heart about this Pope that I love dearly and accept God’s will. I’m praying for his safety, as well.
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Maverick
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I am proud of the Pope and what he said. Hiding from the truth, that is obviously not Pope Benedict’s style.
However I think it would be wise for him to cancel the Turkey trip and stay in the Vatican perhaps for a year if that is what is necessary. We have already seen how violent Muslim fascists will stop at nothing. Hijacking planes full of innocent people and slamming them into the World Trade Center. Bombing innocent Londoners in trains.
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Caesar
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I dont know, he has some of the best bodyguards in world around him, and I doubt anyone would try something in public if they dont want the Italians tearing them apart.
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gilliam
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This will not deter suicide bombers.
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Eden
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The fear of angry Italians didn’t stop Ali Agca. That’s what worries me. They don’t fear death. Osama bin Laden has said in the past that the West will see that Muslims love death more than the West loves life.
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MikeWM
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We have? I haven’t seen Muslim fascists do anything at all.Is there any chance, perhaps, that people could understand what ‘fascist’ means (other than ‘very, very nasty thing’) before calling people it?
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Ridgerunner
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Nothing, not 911, not suicide bombings, not the incessant Muslim-on-Muslim murder that goes on in the Islamic world, has ever better exemplified for me the fact that Islam is the ultimate “culture of death”.
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Maverick
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OK let’s look at the definition of “facism” from dictionary.com
Is there any chance, perhaps, that people could understand what ‘fascist’ means (other than ‘very, very nasty thing’) before calling people it?
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"a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. "
This sounds much like the goverment advocated by bin Laden and much like what existed in Afganastan, when bin Laden was living there under the goverment’s protection, while plotting 09/11.
President Bush used the term “Islamic fascists” to describe those who recently were caught planning to blow up planes flying from London to the USA.
Why do you disagree with the term?
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brotherhrolf
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Hey Mike? If Britain falls to Islam, will you convert? I can’t conceive of my British ancestors doing so but your cavalier treatment of a very serious situtation gives me pause.
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MikeWM
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It doesn’t even mention religion! That’s because fascism isn’t to do with religion. I think religion is quite important to Bin Laden and his followers.
Not at all. ‘Theocracy’ would be somewhat closer (not a perfect description, but a heck of a lot better than ‘fascism’).
Yes he did. It doesn’t mean he was right to do so.
Because it is incorrect.
It is obvious why it has been used. ‘Fascist’ is the big, historical baddie, along with communism. (President Bush’s recent speeches evoking the ghosts of Lenin and Hitler make it all the more clear). If we call them that, it’s far more emotive than other terms. The fact that it is completely inaccurate is viewed as less important than the emotional effect.
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MikeWM
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What on earth makes you think that ‘Britain will fall to Islam’? People who say this kind of thing don’t seem to have any clue about what the reality of the situation we are in actually is.
Of course I will not convert from my religion.
It may well be a serious situation, but again, I have no idea why you think we will ‘fall to Islam’. The question doesn’t even arise. It’s scaremongering. Just like people used to do about the Catholics (ad the Jews) here.
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gilliam
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Interesting point:
Tucked away in Jon Meacham’s predictable isn’t-there-enough-religious-anger critique for Newsweek lies this passage:[W]hy did Benedict quote the emperor in the first place? The most likely answer is that, no matter what the Vatican says now, the pope believes in having what the Catholic theologian and papal biographer George Weigel calls “a hard-headed conversation” about the role of faith in the life of the world. “He knew exactly what he was doing,” says Weigel. “He is saying that irrational violence is displeasing to God. The question Benedict is putting on the table is: ‘Does a significant part of Islam have the capacity to be self-critical?’”Precisely. And in choosing to do so in such blunt terms, he’s injected himself into the central cultural conflict of the age. For this week, at least, the papacy is relevant to non-Catholics (and many Catholics, too) in ways it hasn’t been in years. He’s risking life and limb, but it’s a brilliant political maneuver.
hotair.com/archives/2006/09/16/somali-islamist-cleric-lets-kill-us-a-pope/
Now that the Holy Father has the world’s attention, let’s pray he seizes the moment.
Carpe diem!
Tucked away in Jon Meacham’s predictable isn’t-there-enough-religious-anger critique for Newsweek lies this passage:[W]hy did Benedict quote the emperor in the first place? The most likely answer is that, no matter what the Vatican says now, the pope believes in having what the Catholic theologian and papal biographer George Weigel calls “a hard-headed conversation” about the role of faith in the life of the world. “He knew exactly what he was doing,” says Weigel. “He is saying that irrational violence is displeasing to God. The question Benedict is putting on the table is: ‘Does a significant part of Islam have the capacity to be self-critical?’”Precisely. And in choosing to do so in such blunt terms, he’s injected himself into the central cultural conflict of the age. For this week, at least, the papacy is relevant to non-Catholics (and many Catholics, too) in ways it hasn’t been in years. He’s risking life and limb, but it’s a brilliant political maneuver.
hotair.com/archives/2006/09/16/somali-islamist-cleric-lets-kill-us-a-pope/
Now that the Holy Father has the world’s attention, let’s pray he seizes the moment.
Carpe diem!
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slyboots
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Exactly, Gilliam.
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Eden
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I have quite a few relatives in England and they remain uncowed. One poster certainly doesn’t represent all of the U.K. here. I know that’s obvious, but I just wanted to point out the the man from Cambridge speaks for himself, not his nation.
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