Giving up...going to hell?

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I gather from your posts that you are very stressed.
Yes life can be very difficult sometimes, for many of us.
And it has been for many who post here.

There have been times for many of us, when our posts haven’t received responses for longer than a half hour, even quite urgent threads…there are many forums and groups in Catholic Answers Forums, and there isn’t a predictable number in any of the groups or sub-forums at any one time…

For myself, yes I know how painfully all these world, family, and personal problems can overwhelm you. If I didn’t I couldn’t have written the following at one time

Faith under siege
Eternal God, when my spirit has burned to ashes, ground to dust with a boulder of mute and heavy sorrow, please give me trust in Your personal love for me.

When mine, or others’ mistakes or uncaring have wounded and savaged my heart, where are You to restore what is injured even when I plead for Your intervention and strive to heal the damage? And yet, though You seem absent, I still humbly cry out for Your mercy and healing.

When my efforts leave me helpless with no path left to try, please comfort me and show me a new path.

When others undermine with repeated assaults and short-circuit my resolve, send wise friends to comfort and support me. For no sooner has one problem and heartache eased or resolved than another, equally painful, arises for another or myself.

I seek You but sometimes am left to feel You are heartlessly steeled against me and my life becomes a flat salt desert. Please help me to trust in You even then, when trust no longer seems possible.

My heart cries out repeatedly, groping in the helplessness of fears, disappointments and grief that words cannot convey; screaming in the silence of my brain. Is my only comfort, some day, death?

Yet still I call on You and place my tatters of faith in You.

Forgive my unbelief

Our God, we humans feel need for practical alleviation in times of grief, difficulty and anxiety. When I am embroiled in grief, clasp me to Your heart.

When I am sad or unwell, when troubles beset my family or friends, when I make mistakes, and when the pain or sin of the world assails me, please lift my spirit with God’s love, and with the kindness of those whom God sends.

If in my sorrow I doubt Your mercy, please accept my heartache and tears as prayer for others. Forgive me if I feel anger or dismay, in my frustrated yearning for real help for loved ones in their genuine needs, difficulty and pain!

Please allow no one to suffer for my doubt, but give me faith to become a better vehicle of intercession and blessing for others. Give me remembrance always that I need not plead desperately for Your mercy but will open my heart to the flood of mercy that awaits my welcome. October 1999

I could go on…but yes, many us us get to the point when we’re screaming in emotional pain over world, family, and personal worries and griefs…I’m that way sometimes…but I hope you also can manage to keep going.

A warm hug from someone across an ocean in a island continent
 
I am one of probably millions who are so weary with all of the suffering in the world. I am a cradle catholic, who used to have such a strong faith that God was in control. As a married 50 year old mother of three children, (two are in college, one is still years away from that), I never really questioned this.
Now, I find I am either weary, disgusted, angry, or just plain frustrated with God. There are various things going on in my life that I will not go into, but they are all contributing factors to my frustration and separation from God. I continue attending mass for my child’s sake, otherwise I would consider it a huge waste of time. I think our journey here is ridiculously pointless. Yes God is in control, and as you can see by our fallen world, he is doing one hell of a bang up job. There are only two reasons why I am still here: my children and my fear of hell. Yes, I am receiving counseling, and am being treated for depression.
I know all about the teaching of the church and that God will not interfere with our “free will”. How very swell of him. Hopefully I will get the chance to thank him. But from the attitude I am portraying, it is unlikely.
I hope someone can send me a lifeline. I try to pray, but of course, I find that pointless, as well, because I know God will give us what we need, whether we want it or not. And yes, I pray that my attitude about prayer will change.
Bet no one even wants to touch this one…
I recommend a book called Arise From Darkness by Father Benedict Groeschel.
 
Dear Scrappy Mom,
First let me tell you that you are not unique in your giving up. So many saints have done so many times. From my experience, it is not God who is letting you down. It is other people who come and go in your life. If you must be upset, be upset with the fraility of the human condition. These are the vecissitudes of life; but things can easily change, trust me. It gets better! God will not let you down, but people always will. God bless you! I will be praying for you. Joy comes in the morning!
Thank you, so much said with so few words. It was a terrible weekend, but I am doing better today. I don’t understand why we humans are so frail (yes, I know about Adam & Eve and the Fall from grace) but it seems to me that God is asking far too much of us. If we have all inherited this first sin, than we are all fallen, agreed? Than, it stands to reason in my mind that we couldn’t possibly achieve anything close to perfection here on earth. I feel sometimes as though the effort to “be like Christ” is not only difficult for me, but actually impossible. Sorry to be rambling, I must be going, but I thank you again for your kindness and your prayers.🙂
 
I gather from your posts that you are very stressed.
Yes life can be very difficult sometimes, for many of us.
And it has been for many who post here.

There have been times for many of us, when our posts haven’t received responses for longer than a half hour, even quite urgent threads…there are many forums and groups in Catholic Answers Forums, and there isn’t a predictable number in any of the groups or sub-forums at any one time…

For myself, yes I know how painfully all these world, family, and personal problems can overwhelm you. If I didn’t I couldn’t have written the following at one time

Faith under siege
Eternal God, when my spirit has burned to ashes, ground to dust with a boulder of mute and heavy sorrow, please give me trust in Your personal love for me.

When mine, or others’ mistakes or uncaring have wounded and savaged my heart, where are You to restore what is injured even when I plead for Your intervention and strive to heal the damage? And yet, though You seem absent, I still humbly cry out for Your mercy and healing.

When my efforts leave me helpless with no path left to try, please comfort me and show me a new path.

When others undermine with repeated assaults and short-circuit my resolve, send wise friends to comfort and support me. For no sooner has one problem and heartache eased or resolved than another, equally painful, arises for another or myself.

I seek You but sometimes am left to feel You are heartlessly steeled against me and my life becomes a flat salt desert. Please help me to trust in You even then, when trust no longer seems possible.

My heart cries out repeatedly, groping in the helplessness of fears, disappointments and grief that words cannot convey; screaming in the silence of my brain. Is my only comfort, some day, death?

Yet still I call on You and place my tatters of faith in You.

Forgive my unbelief

Our God, we humans feel need for practical alleviation in times of grief, difficulty and anxiety. When I am embroiled in grief, clasp me to Your heart.

When I am sad or unwell, when troubles beset my family or friends, when I make mistakes, and when the pain or sin of the world assails me, please lift my spirit with God’s love, and with the kindness of those whom God sends.

If in my sorrow I doubt Your mercy, please accept my heartache and tears as prayer for others. Forgive me if I feel anger or dismay, in my frustrated yearning for real help for loved ones in their genuine needs, difficulty and pain!

Please allow no one to suffer for my doubt, but give me faith to become a better vehicle of intercession and blessing for others. Give me remembrance always that I need not plead desperately for Your mercy but will open my heart to the flood of mercy that awaits my welcome. October 1999

I could go on…but yes, many us us get to the point when we’re screaming in emotional pain over world, family, and personal worries and griefs…I’m that way sometimes…but I hope you also can manage to keep going.

A warm hug from someone across an ocean in a island continent
Thank you for your kind words and sharing your personal grief and struggles from over a decade ago, I keep going because I have no choice. One day at a time. Sometimes one hour at a time. Blessedly, very infrequently, one minute at a time.
 
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With regards to the depression, has your doctor checked your Vitamin D level? Many people are walking around with low D-levels and physicians aren’t thinking to check it. If low, it can cause depression. So can low thyroid levels.

Setting that aside, if you are suffering from depression from any number of causes, God, in His mercy, knows this.

That having been said, we never stop trying to deal with the stones, pebbles and boulders put in our path.

Despair is something you do not want to give into. I would find a priest to speak with, to supplement any other professional help you may be getting. The professional can’t deal with the spiritual end of things.

Consider reading these books by Fr. Benedict Groeschel, who is not only a wonderful friar, but a pyschologist.
Pray daily the Act of Faith, Act of Hope, and Act of Love

I will remember you in my daily Mass tomorrow.
Thank you for your advice. I have had those medical tests and they are all normal. My medication may need to be adjusted, which is not uncommon. I appreciate your comments, and suggestions about Fr. Groeschel. I have listened to him often in the past, and he is a very good teacher. I even have a rosary CD he recorded that I used to listen to & recite on my way to clinicals (I am in the nursing program). As I think I told someone else, I don’t even know that person anymore (my old spiritual self). Also, my therapist is a strong devout catholic, who suggested I talk with a priest. I did, but I felt as though I was being judged, although he was kind. I know I should try again, perhaps another priest, but I do not want to go through it again. Far too painful. Thanks again and God bless you.
 
Thank you to everyone who has responded to my original thread. Unfortunately, I don’t have time to respond to each of you personally (I wish I did, believe me), but I am grateful for your support and your advice. As I told one of the members, I am just trying to take things one day at a time. Hopefully, when a bad day comes again, I will be able to overcome. And not do anything that I would regret. God bless all of you (hopefully) - see, the doubting Thomas is still rearing it’s ugly head! :o
 
Sister in Christ,
I have vented frustration at those closest to me many times in my life. I feel it to be an intrinsic, if undesirable, human trait. Just remember the infinite and unconditional love God has for you and every soul you see suffer, it hurts him more to see such events. Please request forgiveness and offer your love and companionship to him. Unfortunately, God can fully understand the ‘bigger picture’. It would be hypocritical to decree man to have free will and then ‘step in’ and prevent the actions of people, no matter how contrary to his teachings. I believe the onus is on mankind to assuage the suffering caused by man’s inhumanity to man and educate those, through example, who have chosen life-paths that have separated them from God. In short, let’s all do our ‘little bit’ in our corner of the world. I feel you have been spiritually wounded, it happens to everybody at certain junctures in their lives. But rest assured, if mankind’s malevolent actions, deceptions, unjust actions, greed and prevarication etc. can wound you; the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ can surely lead you to ultimate salvation. The fact that these images, heinous actions and events hurt you so deeply proves that Christ is part of you and you part of him. If you have never read it, please read a verse called ‘footprints’. Please, trust in Christ, take your time, get yourself better and know that God loves and watches over you during your recovery. If you ask Christ for help he will not refuse you, even if this help is not immediately apparent.
I hope this helps. You are in my prayers, and you will recover. God bless
 
there does not seem to be any way in which participants here can help except through prayer, which you have in abundance
4 pages of responses is not too shabby so am unable to explain your resentment at lack of prompt response, nor am I enlightened by your posts as to the reasons for your present state of dejection. Since there is nothing in Catholic teaching that decrees someone is going to hell for going through that experience, I am also not sure what contributions we could make to assist you. See a priest for spiritual malaise as the remedy for that is through the sacraments, and if you have reason to believe there may be medical or psychological contributors to your present state, seek help in those arenas as well. prayer as I say, you have
 
Scrappymom, I can imagine if you know the Truth and give it up, your making a choice in where you want to go. That’s the way I see it. :o
 
First, Scrappymom, I want to say how sorry I am that you’re in such a sorry state of mind. You’re not alone…Depression, anger, bitterness and hopelessness - are terrible enemies. But just remember who’s on your side: God is not your enemy! Reading your post is truly what moved me to join this forum now - if only I could just get that message through to you…
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 You know? I think I might watch too much television...but, maybe we Do need drill seargents as therapists....Really. Saint Paul addresses us in many ways: as children, as pilgrims, as ambassadors for Christ. But, he also calls us Soldier's of Christ. Being able to endure hardness and suffering is part of our calling and election as Saints. God calls us to share in HIS Glory. How often does that happen? Can you even begin to imagine what that would be like?  It's been said before, the suffering (and madness) that we endure now shall not compare to the glory that shall be revealed (in us)...I'm sorry if it doesn't seem that I'm not being overly sympathetic right now, but I used to think like you do, and believe me, much worse...What changed my mind was, really, adopting an attitude of gratitude and literally counting my blessings. Daily. We should really consider Christ's Life here on earth, his Ministry, his Passion on the Cross; and Paul's conversion  to See and Remember how Loving and Merciful God Really Is. "Giving up" and  accusing God (of evil) - is really low (and imho truly ridiculous) considering how much God Loves us and who God really Is. No one really "deserves" salvation or Heaven, that's why it's called Grace...The Gospel is the Good News...Accept It...Embrace it.  Reject it knowingly? (Madness)...Then yes, you will go to hell by your own choice...
 I will really say a prayer for you Scrappymom, because I know you're hurting and in a bad place right now, but the truth is there's hope for you, yet, whether you want it or not...
 
In today’s Morning Prayer:

Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Trial, or distress, or persecution, or hunger or nakedness, or danger, or the sword? Yet in all this we are more than conquerors because of him who has loved us.

Romans 8:35, 37
 
Many can speak the words of God but I shall send the Power of His love upon these words , and if you receive this gift, known that your words fall short of ever having really understood who God is, for our ways ar not His, and wow unto the scandel found within such words, may Mercy touch your heart today, so that your prays may begin…Rosary… Chaplet of Mercy…Precious Blood of Jesus Christ Chaplet (Queenship Press).:angel1:…:signofcross:
 
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